Posted: 12/8/2011 2:25:08 PM EDT
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Well i just put a order in for a spikes lower. Was looking at Aims web site and came across the zombie lowers they have. I figure it was time to get back into ar's. Dont have a lot of extra cash around with Christmas so it will be awhile tell its shooting. But its a start. It will be fun getting all the parts together.
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i got it from Aim so no color on this one. dont think i saw the light. maybe after i buy all the cleaning stuff to keep it going  still like the AK better. Just tight on money. so buying all the parts and get spread over a longer time. just nice to be getting gun stuff in even if slowly.
stuck ps: Cowboy get it and dont look back 
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.I was in the local gun store in LR the other day and they stock Spikes lowers. It got me thinking. . .
I'm really hoping to just buy more/swap out parts on my current rifle, then let those extra parts grow into a second rifle. Not a bad plan if I do say so myself  .
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.I was in the local gun store in LR the other day and they stock Spikes lowers. It got me thinking. . . I'm really hoping to just buy more/swap out parts on my current rifle, then let those extra parts grow into a second rifle. Not a bad plan if I do say so myself .this is an accurate beginning symptom of the onset of BRD. No cure is know to man. except divorce 
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After not having a AR for a couple years and now with putting one together had a ? on the bolt carrier. i am looking on spikes web site and see the nickel boron ones. they are about twice as much. worth it? i will not be picking one up for a little while. just trying to figure it all out. ur thoughts?
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After not having a AR for a couple years and now with putting one together had a ? on the bolt carrier. i am looking on spikes web site and see the nickel boron ones. they are about twice as much. worth it? i will not be picking one up for a little while. just trying to figure it all out. ur thoughts? stuck Never used one before, but the NiB is supposed to be a super slick, self lubricating deal. Less oiling, easier cleaning and has a cool color/look to it. Is it worth twice as much? I highly doubt it. If you want to try a NiB BCG, then there are other manufacturers out there who offer them at a lesser cost. Off the top of my head, Core15 and RGuns has them (not too sure about RGuns quality though). |
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After not having a AR for a couple years and now with putting one together had a ? on the bolt carrier. i am looking on spikes web site and see the nickel boron ones. they are about twice as much. worth it? i will not be picking one up for a little while. just trying to figure it all out. ur thoughts? stuck Never used one before, but the NiB is supposed to be a super slick, self lubricating deal. Less oiling, easier cleaning and has a cool color/look to it. Is it worth twice as much? I highly doubt it. If you want to try a NiB BCG, then there are other manufacturers out there who offer them at a lesser cost. Off the top of my head, Core15 and RGuns has them (not too sure about RGuns quality though). pretty much this, I have spikes chrome BCG's, and for the most part, they wipe clean...much easier than standard BCG. That being said, I think I paid $149 a piece for all of mine, which isn't too much more than a standard one, and I would gladly pay that again. If you shoot alot, a NiB might be worth it. |
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After not having a AR for a couple years and now with putting one together had a ? on the bolt carrier. i am looking on spikes web site and see the nickel boron ones. they are about twice as much. worth it? i will not be picking one up for a little while. just trying to figure it all out. ur thoughts? stuck I like the NiB BCGs. I am trying to save up to send a couple off to get coated. Is it worth it? Well, IMHO, it depends on how and what you shoot. If you plan on shooting a couple of hundred rounds of nice brass cased ammunition, going home a cleaning your rifle after each time you shoot, probably not. If you are going to shoot a case or so of steel cased stuff, put your rifle away without always cleaning it, or getting rifle dirty with all kinds of crap, then yeah I think it is..... |
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I'd start with the m4 look then buy a long barrel/long range, scoped upper. You can swap them out as you please. My next non nfa build will be a 14.5" carbine m4 build. Light, handy, and good compromise between maneuverability and terminal ballistics. Plus they look cool 
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This is a topic of much debate among AR enthusiasts...which LPK/trigger set is best.
Here's my thoughts: I like to buy once and cry once. Meaning that since the LPK is essentially (minus the upper) is what turns an innocuous piece of aluminum into a fully functioning machine, I tend to want to install high quality, rugged parts. I'm a Daniel Defense fanboy as alot of you know, mainly because I can buy their stuff cheaper than I can just about anything else. Their parts are high quality, as are BCM, spikes, etc. Would I choose it over, say, a DPMS parts kit...yes. One part breaking in a LPK can mean a non-functioning firearm, or potentially a malfunction that may cause problems for you with the alphabet jack booted thugs. As far as triggers go, I subscribe to the mil-spec camp. The two LPK's that you listed are both high quality, the more expensive one having a nickle boron coated single stage trigger that is supposed to be smoother and crisper. Will you notice? Possibly. Is it worth the extra $$$, meh...maybe. You can drop a bunch of money on two stage or adjustable triggers, but those are, according to an easily executable internet search, less reliable. I am not speaking from hands on experience, only that which I have heard on the internet. That being said, Travis Haley {(formerly of magpul), who is a well known and respected industry professional, also does not recommend anything but mil-spec triggers, take that as you may. Here's the link, FF to :50 sec |
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If you also need furniture, I'd look at PSA's lower build kits that also come with buffer tube, buffer, buffer spring, stock, pistol grip, and trigger guard. Bundle and save! Actually I haven't priced it out so you may not be saving, but PSA is good to go, quality-wise.
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I'm, admittedly, a bit of a trigger snob, but a lot of the mil-spec triggers are absolute garbage. Lowest bidder type trash. The trigger is the shooter's #1 interface with the weapon. A shitty trigger makes for a shitty shot. Sure, Travis Haley can cover his ass by only engaging cardboard at pistol range, but I like to shoot my rifles all the way out to the limits of their effective range and the limits of my ability to put rounds on target. I find it simply impossible to reliably hit anything smaller than a truck at 400y if I'm using one of those cheap-ass "parts kit" triggers (DPMS being the worst of any I've tried). IMHO, even (especially?) for a "utility" carbine, something like the Geissle SSA is WELL worth the cost. No need for any of that adjustable mess if you're not doing serious long range competition, I'll be GLAD to have a six pound trigger as long as it has a crisp, creep-free break and a nice, firm reset. Having recently gotten to play with the SSA, it's VERY high on my priority list for rebuilding my carbine. |
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I'm, admittedly, a bit of a trigger snob, but a lot of the mil-spec triggers are absolute garbage. Lowest bidder type trash. The trigger is the shooter's #1 interface with the weapon. A shitty trigger makes for a shitty shot. Sure, Travis Haley can cover his ass by only engaging cardboard at pistol range, but I like to shoot my rifles all the way out to the limits of their effective range and the limits of my ability to put rounds on target. I find it simply impossible to reliably hit anything smaller than a truck at 400y if I'm using one of those cheap-ass "parts kit" triggers (DPMS being the worst of any I've tried). IMHO, even (especially?) for a "utility" carbine, something like the Geissle SSA is WELL worth the cost. No need for any of that adjustable mess if you're not doing serious long range competition, I'll be GLAD to have a six pound trigger as long as it has a crisp, creep-free break and a nice, firm reset. Having recently gotten to play with the SSA, it's VERY high on my priority list for rebuilding my carbine. Geissele triggers, especially the SSA, are not only good to go but damn near perfect IMO. They're making a single stage trigger too if the 2 stage just isn't your bag baby. With mil spec triggers... Its been hit or miss in my experience. Some are good, some need to be shot a lot to be good, some never get to be good. Yes, they all work. But feeling like you rubbing sandpaper together when you pull the trigger is never good, nor is a 7+ pound trigger pull. |
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Is PSA up there with DD and the other higher quality manufacturers? I bought 3 cons serial # lowers when they had the sale on them a few months ago, but that was because they were a good price. If their LPK's are that good I will get those for the lowers. Don't mean to HJ. As far as individual parts go, they're probably 90% as good. A good deal of small parts in the LPK originally come from the same company. Springs especially. As far as lowers go, just about any forged aluminum ar15 lower out there is as good as the rest. The only issues I've ever had with lowers is that RRA are classically very tight. And an Rguns lower I have is so tight I think its probably a bit out of spec. But its serviceable and usable. I've put together 8 different lowers from 4 different parts kits and never noticed any trouble besides what i mentioned. Just always remember that if the price is too good to be true, it may be. |
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Just always remember that if the price is too good to be true, it may be. The good price was the discount price in the group buy here on arfcomm. I have three yungins' that I plan to build these for. I'm not looking for super tack drivers, just something for the kids when SHTF. 
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Just always remember that if the price is too good to be true, it may be. The good price was the discount price in the group buy here on arfcomm. I have three yungins' that I plan to build these for. I'm not looking for super tack drivers, just something for the kids when SHTF.
You'll be GTG with them.
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Just got back from scottys gun shop. Got a lpk put in and a buffer tube and a sling mount. now for the upper and butt stock. the more i look at uppers the more i dont know what i want. just to many different things to pick from. stuck I'm a huge fan of 16" mid lengths or 14.5 middys if you don't mind getting a flash hider permanently attached. With an 11-13" long free float tube over it and nickel boron upper and BCG. Those are SLICK. You might clean your AKs more than you clean your AR if you got that setup
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Quoted: Quoted: Just got back from scottys gun shop. Got a lpk put in and a buffer tube and a sling mount. now for the upper and butt stock. the more i look at uppers the more i dont know what i want. just to many different things to pick from. stuck I'm a huge fan of 16" mid lengths or 14.5 middys if you don't mind getting a flash hider permanently attached. With an 11-13" long free float tube over it and nickel boron upper and BCG. Those are SLICK. You might clean your AKs more than you clean your AR if you got that setup This. I'ma rebuild my carbine with a 16" DD CHF lightweight middy barrel, 13" TRX rail, NiB receiver and BCG, and MAYBE a special low-profile gas system I caught a glimpse of a few weeks ago... |
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Just got back from scottys gun shop. Got a lpk put in and a buffer tube and a sling mount. now for the upper and butt stock. the more i look at uppers the more i dont know what i want. just to many different things to pick from. stuck It's nice to have a place like Scotty's to go to when putting things together(it was busy when I dropped by today). He does stock a good bit of parts and rifles, and always has great advice. I thought I had my rifles squared away, until I took that carbine class  . Now, some things are staying, some are going. Cowboy's description is pretty dang close to what I am working towards.........
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Just got back from scottys gun shop. Got a lpk put in and a buffer tube and a sling mount. now for the upper and butt stock. the more i look at uppers the more i dont know what i want. just to many different things to pick from. stuck It's nice to have a place like Scotty's to go to when putting things together(it was busy when I dropped by today). He does stock a good bit of parts and rifles, and always has great advice. I thought I had my rifles squared away, until I took that carbine class . Now, some things are staying, some are going. Cowboy's description is pretty dang close to what I am working towards.........
Along with a couple of 300BLK projects.. And reloading.. It's a sickness..... Scotty is a huge help. its nice to have him in NWA. i drive from bella vista down there. i pass a lot of gun shops on the way. Him and his dad are always helpfull and willing to answer ?'s. they also know what there talking about. that is a big plus. Cowboy i will just have to wait and see. Trust me if the AR has a problems u guys will know about it i keep going through the picture threads on here. i keep getting different ideas. this web site sure does not help the wallet
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Just got back from scottys gun shop. Got a lpk put in and a buffer tube and a sling mount. now for the upper and butt stock. the more i look at uppers the more i dont know what i want. just to many different things to pick from. stuck It's nice to have a place like Scotty's to go to when putting things together(it was busy when I dropped by today). He does stock a good bit of parts and rifles, and always has great advice. I thought I had my rifles squared away, until I took that carbine class . Now, some things are staying, some are going. Cowboy's description is pretty dang close to what I am working towards.........
Along with a couple of 300BLK projects.. And reloading.. It's a sickness..... Scotty is a huge help. its nice to have him in NWA. i drive from bella vista down there. i pass a lot of gun shops on the way. Him and his dad are always helpfull and willing to answer ?'s. they also know what there talking about. that is a big plus. Cowboy i will just have to wait and see. Trust me if the AR has a problems u guys will know about it i keep going through the picture threads on here. i keep getting different ideas. this web site sure does not help the wallet
stuck Damn, you guys must have been there when I was there. I picked up a couple of lowers and had Scotty replace the sights on one of my Glocks. He was building a lower and then he was talking about 300 Black. |