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Posted: 11/3/2010 1:10:39 AM EDT
I've heard alot of my co-workers talk about this subject during lunch and it got me thinking. How many local people are survival minded out there ,and if so how are you preparing yourself for natural disasters. I know that we live in the land of “Aloha”, but when that Aloha runs out are you going to be ready… I would like to hear your thoughts on the matter....
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Definitely need to make friends with other like minded individuals and group up if all are trustworthy. In many respects it'd be nice to do something like this in the HTF (for the respective states) but many of us are so secretive I'm not even sure who is survivalist minded & to what extent...cause I sure ain't sayin 
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| I have some guys I have linked up with, ya heard of alaska citizens militia, just for a shtf senario or natrual disaster. You live not too far from a supplier in fact that was one of the reasons I came to town other than coming to see you. Don't call me an extremist call me a Patriotic American! |
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I saw a brochure from the State (and FEMA, I believe) at APLIC when I was designing their new banners a couple years ago that said that in the case of a major earthquake, people in Anchorage should be prepared to live for a minimum of 10 days without medical help, emergency services, electricity, or water. HI would probably face similar problems, with perhaps more of the total population really unable to take care of themselves.
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I saw a brochure from the State (and FEMA, I believe) at APLIC when I was designing their new banners a couple years ago that said that in the case of a major earthquake, people in Anchorage should be prepared to live for a minimum of 10 days without medical help, emergency services, electricity, or water. I'm sure some people can/do but with the entitlement mentality around Anchorage after a week I bet some parts of town would be going nuts! |
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Quoted: Quoted: I saw a brochure from the State (and FEMA, I believe) at APLIC when I was designing their new banners a couple years ago that said that in the case of a major earthquake, people in Anchorage should be prepared to live for a minimum of 10 days without medical help, emergency services, electricity, or water. I'm sure some people can/do but with the entitlement mentality around Anchorage after a week I bet some parts of town would be going nuts! Yep, if things got really bad, I would get out. I grew up in the bush where people help their neighbors and are self-reliant. In Anchorage, they'll be eating each other. I'm not into that. If I was single, maybe I'd stay and try to help. With a family, I have other priorities. |
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No problem. I may not remember (or have learned) a lot from college, but them hippies did teach me how to last a while with little food and living in a tent. Bunch of ramen, rice-a-roni, and summer sausage i can last a while. Come to think of it that's all i eat now. |
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Quoted: It is funny you mention this, I have a friend who nearly eats only what he catches fishing and diving. We go diving and fishing together at least 3 times a week. He goes alone when I cannot make it. He literally know the proper preparations for nearly every fish, crustacean, anemone, and other things you thought you could never eat before. He eats all of these things on a daily basis. He only hits the store for oil, butter, rice and spices. He is always able to pull something out of the water and usually enough for a few meals.I've heard alot of my co-workers talk about this subject during lunch and it got me thinking. How many local people are survival minded out there ,and if so how are you preparing yourself for natural disasters. I know that we live in the land of "Aloha”, but when that Aloha runs out are you going to be ready… I would like to hear your thoughts on the matter....I am fairly confident that he would do very well in that kind of situation. He always talks about SHTF and he is well stocked for it. He would be the guy cooking a nice meal when people here are scrambling for spam, water and batteries. His life would be no different as far as he is concerned. |
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I saw a brochure from the State (and FEMA, I believe) at APLIC when I was designing their new banners a couple years ago that said that in the case of a major earthquake, people in Anchorage should be prepared to live for a minimum of 10 days without medical help, emergency services, electricity, or water. I'm sure some people can/do but with the entitlement mentality around Anchorage after a week I bet some parts of town would be going nuts! Yep, if things got really bad, I would get out. I grew up in the bush where people help their neighbors and are self-reliant. In Anchorage, they'll be eating each other. I'm not into that. If I was single, maybe I'd stay and try to help. With a family, I have other priorities. I am not too worried about Alaskan events really it is something happening in the L48 disrupting the food supply considering the state at any given time only has about 3 weeks worth of food. |
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Quoted: I am not too worried about Alaskan events really it is something happening in the L48 disrupting the food supply considering the state at any given time only has about 3 weeks worth of food. This is the big thing for me. In a failed economy, or other event that disrupts commerce, food is going to stay close to where it is produced, and there will be little incentive to ship it to AK, at least for a little while. People in the populated areas of AK are dreaming when they say everyone will live off moose are dreaming - the land can only support a certain population. The ocean can support a lot more, but it will take a while for things to fall into place for the distribution of the seafood throughout the state. Also, fishing depends on fuel. Alaska farms could not dream of producing enough food to make a difference, and it takes a lot of time to expand farming. Everything always levels out - people need to eat, so some type of economy always works itself out, but in most things, AK is dependent on the Lower 48. A major disruption in commerce between AK and the rest of the country would mean starving times in the heavily populated areas, and even the bush areas that now have populations that are too big for the land to support or have forgotten how to live without food, fuel, etc. being shipped in. I know where I would be heading - I can live comfortably off the land, but only in specific locations - I don't have the knowledge to be really confident that I could live by wild harvest in many areas of AK. Most of Alaska is a harsh place to try to survive of the land. I grew up in a town with no electricity, no running water, no store, and a mail plane that flew in once a week and could bring flour, powdered milk, etc.
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The catch will be; can you get out of the bowl in time (for those in Anchorage)? Only one way in/out depending on direction of travel, and assuming no boat or plane. For me I can't possibly bug out with the family and enough gear to make it work, not to mention the risk of the roads which after a short time would be a parking lot. I'm at the point of figuring 9-12 months worth of supplies for 4 on hand + my small summer garden to supplement. That definitely takes a load of storage space, but depending on how you structure it you can make it work. Freeze dried #10 cans are awesome and have a 25-30yr life but they are quite spendy. I enjoy going to the Mormon cannery when possible to load up & work hard with other folks. Security will be a giant issue. I have good neighbors, but crap just a few blocks to the north, south, and east  With a wife & 2 young kids a person really can't maintain any type of effective security against a reasonable group of thugs...that shit is scary!
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| Most of the folks I know are somewhat prepared. Usually at least a few days. I know some who have expanded that a bit. I can probably go about a year in a pinch but then, I'm a packrat by nature and I've had a couple really bad years, work wise, that taught me to always stock ahead when I can. |
I like how this thread became centered on AK... 
I may not be local, but I am prepared. I continuously try to better my preparations and always have that thought in the back of my mind. I'm not sure if there are any natural disasters that could happen where I live, other than too much snow... And I am well prepared for that.  If a natural disaster were to affect us, it would likely be in the form of food shipments from the lower 48.
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I like how this thread became centered on AK...
I may not be local, but I am prepared. I continuously try to better my preparations and always have that thought in the back of my mind. I'm not sure if there are any natural disasters that could happen where I live, other than too much snow... And I am well prepared for that. If a natural disaster were to affect us, it would likely be in the form of food shipments from the lower 48.Hawaii is almost too easy prep-wise. Even if you didn't have preps there's lots of food to kill and freshwater sources, and the climate is probably better for survival than anywhere else. Just make sure you have some skills and stock up on guns and ammo. |
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I like how this thread became centered on AK...
I may not be local, but I am prepared. I continuously try to better my preparations and always have that thought in the back of my mind. I'm not sure if there are any natural disasters that could happen where I live, other than too much snow... And I am well prepared for that. If a natural disaster were to affect us, it would likely be in the form of food shipments from the lower 48.Hawaii is almost too easy prep-wise. Even if you didn't have preps there's lots of food to kill and freshwater sources, and the climate is probably better for survival than anywhere else. Just make sure you have some skills and stock up on guns and ammo. Yep! Got board wax, a fishing pole/spear, and a gun? Cool! You're ready for the end of the world in Hawaii 
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Rawles has a good article on this subject.
http://www.survivalblog.com/2010/10/welcome_to_the_promised_land_b.html One thing you need to consider if infrastructure is down for an extended period of time, is water. If your have a well it might be prudent to get a hand pump. If your on city you need to store at minimum 1 gal per person per day. |
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Thats an awesome guy to know, so many of us "hard-headed" kids didn't pay attention when our uncle was trying to teach us something. We just wanted to swim all day long. Alot of us are very secretive about stocking up and preparing so that we don't get "labeled", but on a island with no where to go or run, it becomes a real life problem real quick. It will be awhile before "things" start again. We had a very small poweroutage awhile back and I remember people freaking out about no central air...it was crazy.
if anybodys interested in swapping ideas or just feel like "talking story" feel free to pm me, even my Alaska brothers (thinking of doing the Ham radio thing) it would be great to have some contacts up North...
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Well... I'm one of those secretive people too. My main fear is an EMP attack that pretty much destroys the lower 48. On a smaller scale we had an ice storm a few years back that knocked out our power for a week. Most everyone in the neighborhood left to stay at local hotels. My wife & I powered up the generator & cooked on cast iron in the fireplace. We've come a long way since then. The survival forums here on this board have a lot of knowledgeable posters & lists of books & other resources.
If you have a spouse or SO who thinks that preparing is "kooky" or BS I would advise you to sit down with him/her & watch both seasons of Jericho. It'll definitely make them think. |
| I agree, that garden, canned food stash, backup generator and solar system, a freezer full of moose and caribou, and the means to protect and keep it for an extende period of time while still protecting your wife and kids... I'd bolt to the cabin or homested in a second if the traffic and bridges would allow. Fruits would be the toughest to do without if the supplies from the lower 48 got stopped up... |
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I agree, that garden, canned food stash, backup generator and solar system, a freezer full of moose and caribou, and the means to protect and keep it for an extende period of time while still protecting your wife and kids... I'd bolt to the cabin or homested in a second if the traffic and bridges would allow. Fruits would be the toughest to do without if the supplies from the lower 48 got stopped up... I have some keys to a few special places, but getting everything there in emergency would be a hard. When dealing with supplies, ammo, canned food (even MREs). The BOV gets filled up real fast.
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An arfcom get together somewhere other than the range might be nice way to A actually meet people, for a while i thought viper's avatar was actually him, (actually his dogs), i would vote for anchorage simply because it suits me best. Agreed, but Hawaii would be a warmer place to meet, you won't understand me with my teeth clanking from the cold....I may get frostbite with my flip flops (shower shoes for you mainland folks)
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Quoted: An arfcom get together somewhere other than the range might be nice way to A actually meet people, for a while i thought viper's avatar was actually him, (actually his dogs), i would vote for anchorage simply because it suits me best. This whole time i thought you were a Transformer. |
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What is the official ArfCom movie??? Hopefully you can get access to a small community bug-in. Community is the only chance we'd have in SHTF. All this striking it out on your own stuff is crazy talk. Community = AKHTF
Movie = Red Dawn! Or Heat. Or the new movie Red. Or..... |
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Quoted: Quoted: What is the official ArfCom movie??? Hopefully you can get access to a small community bug-in. Community is the only chance we'd have in SHTF. All this striking it out on your own stuff is crazy talk. Community = AKHTF Movie = Red Dawn! Or Heat. Or the new movie Red. Or..... Heat > Red Dawn Resident Evil? Lord of War? Way of The Gun? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Resident Evil? Lord of War? Way of The Gun? When you add a few years to your tenure you can then comment on the official ARFCOM movie....rookie Does that depend on sign up time or post count? A day in GD and i can pass you. Or another of RikAK's giveaway threads. |
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Resident Evil? Lord of War? Way of The Gun? When you add a few years to your tenure you can then comment on the official ARFCOM movie....rookie
Does that depend on sign up time or post count? A day in GD and i can pass you. Or another of RikAK's giveaway threads. Just time on station; post whores are just that.....posters
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Resident Evil? Lord of War? Way of The Gun? When you add a few years to your tenure you can then comment on the official ARFCOM movie....rookie
AWW, your just upset because Titanic and Dirty Dancing were mentioned. Hike up your skirt buttercup 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Resident Evil? Lord of War? Way of The Gun? When you add a few years to your tenure you can then comment on the official ARFCOM movie....rookie AWW, your just upset because Titanic and Dirty Dancing were mentioned. Hike up your skirt buttercup You and nuttin up behind people, Jeez  |
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Heat sucks balls... Here, I'll save you 2.7 hours of boring script and screenplay...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL9fnVtz_lc Red Dawn... That movie is packed full of action and one-liners that will span generations. |
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eH, Wasn't crazy about red dawn. Could find better.
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Red Dawn... That movie is packed full of action and one-liners that will span generations. This man has taste and knows ARFCOM...unlike buttercup the newb  When you're older you will understand
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Quoted: I already understand how bad the "acting" & "special effects" were in the 80's. It's ok, I understand you're just trying to hold onto your youth and memories of days when you had hair. Quoted: Quoted: eH, Wasn't crazy about red dawn. Could find better.Quoted: Red Dawn... That movie is packed full of action and one-liners that will span generations. This man has taste and knows ARFCOM...unlike buttercup the newb When you're older you will understand maybe if they remade the movie, |