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10/19/2010 11:37:13 AM EDT
so i saw an online ad with her photo, stating that she has crossed party lines 300 times.

at first i thought it was a pro joe miller ad till i saw at the bottom that it was paid for by LM for senate...

wtf? has she just outted herself as a democrat?



another thing, does anyone else think that the anchorage daily news is biased against joe miller? lotsa crap about him there and none about LM.


any thoughts on this?
10/19/2010 11:45:46 AM EDT
[#1]
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so i saw an online ad with her photo, stating that she has crossed party lines 300 times.

at first i thought it was a pro joe miller ad till i saw at the bottom that it was paid for by LM for senate...

wtf? has she just outted herself as a democrat?



another thing, does anyone else think that the anchorage daily news is biased against joe miller? lotsa crap about him there and none about LM.


any thoughts on this?


I have noticed this too, seems like AK get more liberal everyday now....
10/19/2010 12:10:01 PM EDT
[#2]
She's trying to steal the liberal/democrat vote from McNobody.  It will work because the liberal bitches wet the bed at the thought of Joe "EXTREMIST" Miller getting the senate seat and everybody knows McWhatshisname doesn't stand a chance.

I notice the ad was run in Sitka...  I'll bet money it sees almost no play in the interior and other predominantly conservative areas.

Target ads to target audiences.  We need to get ahold of that ad and run it in the interior for her.  For free.  
10/19/2010 12:18:35 PM EDT
[#3]
This stupid liberal at work was trying to stop me from voting for Murkowski back in July/August.  "She's become an extremist!"



Then Joe Miller won.



"I'm going to vote for Murkowski to stop the Palinistas."

"But I thought you said she was an extremist, Chris.  Why don't you support the Democrat?"

"........"





Moron.
10/19/2010 12:21:18 PM EDT
[#4]
I'm seeing Lisa signs alongside Berkowitz signs in most yards, not McAdams. Lisa stands a good chance to pull this crap off; make sure everyone rallies their friends, family, coworkers, etc, to get out and vote for Joe because it's going to take ALL of that to win!
10/19/2010 12:25:25 PM EDT
[#5]
i laughed when joe miller won the nomination and mcadams (our current mayor) announced how he agreed with and supported LM... now he's gotta eat his words since she's still in it.
10/19/2010 5:26:29 PM EDT
[#6]
She has enough support from very strong groups, I fear she may split the vote and give it to the Dem (which is probably no worse than she is).
10/19/2010 5:45:50 PM EDT
[#7]
I'm concerned that she might win and use it as a mandate to pursue her liberal agenda full speed ahead.  She'd be able to point back to this election and proclaim a decision by Alaskans.  The arrogance will be at a sickening level if she pulls this off....

There are a large number of groups, individuals, and businesses in this state that feed off the feds and want Lisa to win.  Heck, some of these even claim to be conservatives.

On a  positive note we did an impromptu sign-waving for Joe at the N Birchwood overpass last night.  A guy who lives down the street from me had his family out waving signs so we joined in the fun.
10/19/2010 6:00:19 PM EDT
[#8]

That's what I fear Matt and I see it happening with unfortunate ease     She will proclaim a mandate of all Alaskans and push her liberal agenda with that backing. Because real Republicans are backing Joe we will all get shut out in the cold as she runs further left in an effort to keep her seat in the future. If she wins this round there is virtually no chance of another Republican taking her down in 6 more years, especially with the massive backing of the native corps, teachers union, and all the other money (or contract) hungry organizations.
10/19/2010 7:10:01 PM EDT
[#9]
It truly is sad that elections in this country are decided on corruption and hand-outs.
10/19/2010 8:37:09 PM EDT
[#10]
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I'm concerned that she might win and use it as a mandate to pursue her liberal agenda full speed ahead.  She'd be able to point back to this election and proclaim a decision by Alaskans.  The arrogance will be at a sickening level if she pulls this off....

There are a large number of groups, individuals, and businesses in this state that feed off the feds and want Lisa to win.  Heck, some of these even claim to be conservatives.

On a  positive note we did an impromptu sign-waving for Joe at the N Birchwood overpass last night.  A guy who lives down the street from me had his family out waving signs so we joined in the fun.


Concerned about that, as well.  Voting for Joe, anyways.  I'm not sure if she realises how many folks she pissed off with her write-in campaign.  I do know 1 who was an ardent supporter of hers that this move pissed off.  Wasn't me, a friend of mine.  And every ad she and her supporters put out ticks him off more.  He's a delivery driver/gopher so gets to talk to lots of folks.  And he's not shy about talking about it when it comes up.
10/19/2010 9:33:30 PM EDT
[#11]
Keep hope alive.  It would be a shame if AK was out of step with the Tea Party tsunami this year.
10/20/2010 1:24:43 AM EDT
[#12]
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I'm concerned that she might win and use it as a mandate to pursue her liberal agenda full speed ahead.  She'd be able to point back to this election and proclaim a decision by Alaskans.  The arrogance will be at a sickening level if she pulls this off....

There are a large number of groups, individuals, and businesses in this state that feed off the feds and want Lisa to win.  Heck, some of these even claim to be conservatives.

On a  positive note we did an impromptu sign-waving for Joe at the N Birchwood overpass last night.  A guy who lives down the street from me had his family out waving signs so we joined in the fun.


The guy waving signs...Mike?

I have Sunday and Monday off right now if anyone wants to try and hook up for a couple of hours for sign waving.  Or, I can go around noonish on my work days.  Can't believe there is only two more weeks and it's over.  

10/20/2010 8:08:30 AM EDT
[#13]
I honked at the miller guys waving signs at the boniface and glenn overpass.  sombody wanna set up another sign waving gig ?? the first one was pretty darn impressive I think.
10/20/2010 8:14:25 AM EDT
[#14]
Yep - it was Mike and his family.  I believe he's a writer/author/publisher?

Another sign waving would be great.  I'll have to ask someone else to jump in to organize it as I'm out of town until after the election.  Any volunteers?
10/20/2010 9:12:42 AM EDT
[#15]
had a guy tell me that miller is getting all his support and money from the tea party of the lower 48...


guess he forgot that it was alaskans who voted for miller in the primary...

i am now officially amazed with the RINOs in alaska... AND my family. first time EVER that i have been at odds with the fam regarding politics. its a touchy subject. my mum is an ardent LM supporter, yet she still thinks shes a republican. i get her mad by saying she turning into a democrat..

guys, it could get ugly in the next coupla weeks.
10/20/2010 9:35:19 AM EDT
[#16]

Yes, it WILL get ugly; like the fricking civil war at times! A buddy and I are on opposite sides in this case and it sucks, but he's acting like a douche. I'll present facts and he'll present opinion. The last straw was a discussion on Denali Kidcare which he is in favor of because he receives it....well I think the program is ok for deserving people, but NOT the way it is currently run. My buddy drives an Audi, has a new construction hillside home, wife drives an SUV, cell phones, goes skiing; yet receives DKC??  WTF man! That entitlement/perversion of programs is what is wrong with so many things in this country!
10/20/2010 11:28:08 AM EDT
[#17]
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Yep - it was Mike and his family.  I believe he's a writer/author/publisher?

Another sign waving would be great.  I'll have to ask someone else to jump in to organize it as I'm out of town until after the election.  Any volunteers?


I thought that might be him.

I believe they will be waving signs again today near Sears at Northern Lights and the New Seward Hwy from 4:30 to 6:00 pm.  If anyone wants to call and check it's 929-9563 or 268-1945.  

10/20/2010 6:00:50 PM EDT
[#18]


Didn't Joe Miller's family receive Denali Kid Care. So much for self sufficient Alaskan.

The resident contrarion.
10/20/2010 6:10:21 PM EDT
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Didn't Joe Miller's family receive Denali Kid Care. So much for self sufficient Alaskan.

The resident contrarion.


Yep they did. If their situation was the same as my buddies then I'd be all over him for it too    A single mom + 3 kids alone after the husband takes off is different in my book than a husband/wife who drive fancy cars, live in a new house, have the latest & greatest, but can game the system to get free shit.
10/20/2010 6:58:33 PM EDT
[#20]
My take on any welfare program is that the problem is with the program (or the rules/enforcement for the program) and not with the people that get it.  I can't give someone a hard time for taking advantage of an offered program if they meet the criteria.  I'd sure like to stop the spending though by tightening the criteria or stopping the programs.

How can Murkowsky repubs think that the Federal free money train can keep rolling?  It's weird that they nitpick Joe while celebrating Lisa's rally cries to bring home the pork.  I don't get it.
10/20/2010 9:25:28 PM EDT
[#21]
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Didn't Joe Miller's family receive Denali Kid Care. So much for self sufficient Alaskan.

The resident contrarion.


Yes, and his wife collected unemployment for a time.  Your point?

10/20/2010 9:51:44 PM EDT
[#22]
I`m still waiting to here what will be cut and no one is saying shit ,on a local level or across the country ,all I here is we will cut
the budget but no has the balls to say what and how much .So in the end it will be the same old thing ,we`re fucked
So next time someone ask who your voteing for ask where the cut are coming from and now much.At this point they should
have a plan and not lets pass another bill then figure it out .My grandkids are running out of time
10/20/2010 10:19:56 PM EDT
[#23]
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She has enough support from very strong groups, I fear she may split the vote and give it to the Dem (which is probably no worse than she is).

At least with mcadams you now what you get, I still think Joes got the edge, but just like nik said hit everyone up you know to go vote for joe
10/20/2010 11:02:25 PM EDT
[#24]
unemployment compensation is insurance that you pay into.... not a .gov handout.

10/20/2010 11:05:44 PM EDT
[#25]
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unemployment compensation is insurance that you pay into.... not a .gov handout.



ditto
10/21/2010 12:43:57 AM EDT
[#26]
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Didn't Joe Miller's family receive Denali Kid Care. So much for self sufficient Alaskan.

The resident contrarion.


And lisa voted to confirm Holder...

You are willing to vote back in a person who voted a confirmed communist into the nation's highest LEO position because her opponent took DKC?  Wow.  

10/21/2010 3:05:05 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:


Didn't Joe Miller's family receive Denali Kid Care. So much for self sufficient Alaskan.

The resident contrarion.


And Lisa voted to confirm Holder...

You are willing to vote back in a person who voted a confirmed communist into the nation's highest LEO position because her opponent took DKC?  Wow.  



Bam!  Knocked it right out of the park with that one.

That's what this boils down to in this race.  How do you think Joe will vote when critical votes come up such as this one for Eric Holder?  I have every reason to believe he would have voted no.  There was absolutely no reason for Lisa to vote to confirm Holder other than to play nice with the demonrats.  None.  And yet she did and gave the middle finger to America and especially those of us in the firearm community.  I think she did it because she knew that deep down the RINO's in Alaska wouldn't hold her accountable.  And it's possible that she may be correct.

And that's just ONE of her votes with the demonrats.  Only one.  How many other votes on critical issues do you see her siding with the dems, as where Joe would not.  She is pro amnesty, pro bailout, supports cap and trade, isn't very strong on pro life issues, etc...  Do you really think Joe would vote that way?  I certainly do not.

Does this not even register with you Lisa supporters out there?

13.5 trillion dollars in debt, with total unfunded liabilities at nearly 111 trillion dollars.

Now if you really can't rap your head around those facts I don't know what will help you.  This country is in very serious trouble folks.  This election will determine whether we as Alaskans are going to help to start correcting the problem of these morally bankrupt politicians selling us out, or continue to be part of the problem.  We already have Mark down there voting with Obama, and or the dems for another four years.  What kind of message is it going to send to everyone if we send this lady back for AT LEAST SIX MORE YEARS!  That's right...SIX MORE YEARS!  Let that burn in real good folks.  And make no mistake about it, she will take it as a mandate to keep on the same track, but start veering even more left.  Why, because if she wins it will be with the help of the left leaning voters.  We've all heard loud and clear what she's called most of us...right wing extremists.

So do you Lisa supporters really want to boil this down to some of this meaningless crap in Joe's closet?  Really?  What's in yours, huh?  Do you think for a second that you could have your personal and professional life ripped to shreds by a bunch of freakin political vultures and still be squeaky clean? Nothing that could be construed as being hypocritical would surface in your past?  I'm sure you would have a nice comfortable ride in one of the most hotly contested races in the Nation and arguably in Alaska's history.  Not.

It's all about the votes.  Lisa has proven that she will vote for incredible destructive things for this great Nation.  For those votes she should be fired. We need to give Joe a chance to prove his votes will be better for our Nation, and our State.  

 

10/21/2010 3:48:06 AM EDT
[#28]
Unfortunately, Miller having never held office has no voting record for me to evaluate.  In my opinion, based upon his past actions Miller does not show good judgment and consistency of character. Hiring mall ninjas for a "security" detail sealed it for me. No matter who wins, I don't plan on losing any sleep over it.. At least Don Young will still be in the House..
10/21/2010 7:16:21 AM EDT
[#29]
unemployment compensation is insurance that you pay into.... not a .gov handout.


I have an issue with unemployment insurance in Alaska that's been bugging me but I haven't researched it fully enough to know if I have this right or not.  Can anyone help me out?  

I have friends in the construction trades that take a winter vacation on unemployment insurance.  Jobs slow down so they actively try to get laid off  (or even volunteer) so that they can get the unemployment money and not have to work.  I can't believe that they've contributed enough to the unemployment fund the rest of the year to cover their winter vacation.

So who's paying for it?  I have to think that the unemployment tax (insurance) that my employer pays for me is being given to people who know that they have a seasonal job.    If I moved to Alaska to accept a seasonal job I can't see why I would deserve free money (meaning more money than I paid into unemployment insurance) during the non-work season.  These are jobs that pay very high hourly wages the rest of the year and provide an overall annual take-home salary that would make most Americans envious.

Hopefully I'm missing something here?  Additional info or corrections are appreciated.

Matt
10/21/2010 7:49:02 AM EDT
[#30]
The taxpayer is paying for it. I have seen it happen with construction crews I used to run for projects. In addition, the current extension on unemployment benefits of 2 years...unless you have been slaving away consistently for a decade or more chances are you have not paid in enough "insurance" money. Here's the way I see it. If you and your employer are paying into a pool for your unemployment, that pool is essentially a savings account for the chance you lose your job. If you do, then that pool + interest is what you have to draw from on unemployment. Actual insurance is different because my State Farm auto policy is not backed by the taxpayer if I total my car instead of just dent the bumper. With the current system one could work for 9 months, pay into UI, and then not work for 2 years. In addition you could grab DKC, WIC, ect. if you qualify all while couch surfing and going to occasional job classes/searches. At least that's my understanding of it...
10/21/2010 7:59:32 AM EDT
[#31]
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Unfortunately, Miller having never held office has no voting record for me to evaluate.  In my opinion, based upon his past actions Miller does not show good judgment and consistency of character. Hiring mall ninjas for a "security" detail sealed it for me. No matter who wins, I don't plan on losing any sleep over it.. At least Don Young will still be in the House..


So what you're actually saying is that you don't have a problem with Lisa's voting record IMO.

You are saying that you see no problem what so ever with Lisa voting for a communist as the chief law enforcement officer of the Nation, who would like nothing more than to take away your constitutional rights...Such as the Second Amendment?  That's a hell of a point of view on a gun forum.  With all of the problems with Lisa's voting history, excluding a potential candidate for not having a voting record to evaluate is not something I'm prepared to do.  That's for sure.  Especially when Joe Miller has accomplished all that he has so far in his life.  His record is astonishingly impressive to me, and given the current options that we have it is absurd IMO to not give Joe the chance to prove himself once again.

I don't happen to believe you that Bill's screw up at Joe's event "sealed it for you".  Campaigns such as this attract all types of people from all walks of life.  I doubt if you looked into the details that Joe sought out Bill for his campaign.  Bill is a known supporter of constitutional candidates for office here in Alaska, and I'm willing to bet he is mostly volunteering his efforts in support of Joe Miller.  His campaign is disorganised, and he has made plenty political mistakes along the way.  I'll give you that.  However, that isn't a reason to not hire Joe to represent us in the Senate.  His record and what he stands for is.

And while you may not "plan" on losing any sleep over this election, if things don't start turning around really soon you will.  Whether you like it or not.  



10/21/2010 8:02:57 AM EDT
[#32]
i've been working at the same job for 6 years. every year it gets slow for jan-march. i usually go back to australia with my wife during part or most of that time and have NEVER applied for unemployment ins during those times. now, 2 years ago it was looking like i was going to have no work in december too, so i called the unemployment office and inquired about benefits. after working 4 years in the same job (had a long term job before my current one too) i would receive about 1/2 of my monthly wage, sent out in weekly checks, AND i had to "check in" at the job center every week (ei: no vacations allowed)... AND it was only good for 6 months at the max.

now, i couldn't and still can't pay bills, mortgage, buy food and gas on 1/2 of my wage. close but not quite. now, this winter the wife and i are not going back to AU, gets too expensive to do every year. so what i'm going to do is stash some extra cash and go on unemployment for 2 months or so.
10/21/2010 10:21:36 AM EDT
[#33]
By the time any person gets elected to office, they're usually a hypocritical douche.  I can accept that.  It's even easier to accept if they happen to be an extremist, gun lovin', gobberment-hatin' douche.  That's my kinda douchebag, I tell you.
10/21/2010 12:15:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
unemployment compensation is insurance that you pay into.... not a .gov handout.


I have an issue with unemployment insurance in Alaska that's been bugging me but I haven't researched it fully enough to know if I have this right or not.  Can anyone help me out?  

I have friends in the construction trades that take a winter vacation on unemployment insurance.  Jobs slow down so they actively try to get laid off  (or even volunteer) so that they can get the unemployment money and not have to work.  I can't believe that they've contributed enough to the unemployment fund the rest of the year to cover their winter vacation.

So who's paying for it?  I have to think that the unemployment tax (insurance) that my employer pays for me is being given to people who know that they have a seasonal job.    If I moved to Alaska to accept a seasonal job I can't see why I would deserve free money (meaning more money than I paid into unemployment insurance) during the non-work season.  These are jobs that pay very high hourly wages the rest of the year and provide an overall annual take-home salary that would make most Americans envious.

Hopefully I'm missing something here?  Additional info or corrections are appreciated.

Matt


Matt I don't know the answer to your question I do know what you are talking about though especially with the high hourly pay and annual take home pay.

I do work construction and this year is slow... for almost every trade.  I think that as of June or July the amount of money spent on construction of any type was 50 % of the amount spent on any of the previous three years over the same time frame.  I have been without work for three weeks now and might have a job next week that might last a week maybe two not really sure.  I have been out of work for two consecutive months twice in the past four years and at least one full month every other year.  I realize that is the kind of work I have and my wife and I sock the money away to make up for the slow times we try to have enough to cover bills for two months of no work.  I haven't even gotten interested in unemployment enough to look up the number for the office or the address.  If I need to and things get tight I generally go looking for a part time or temp job just to make things stretch.  I have two kids and the wife stays home with them so I am the only income.  I can say that while I wouldn't shed a tear if the PFD's went away they were very welcome this year.  

I do know of some construction workers that have gone on unemployment and for one reason or another they wound up owing the unemployment money back due to incorrectly filling out the paperwork or not getting back into the office to stop payments or something like that.
10/21/2010 12:25:15 PM EDT
[#35]
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By the time any person gets elected to office, they're usually a hypocritical douche.  I can accept that.  It's even easier to accept if they happen to be an extremist, gun lovin', gobberment-hatin' douche.  That's my kinda douchebag, I tell you.


I like the cut of your jib...