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9/28/2010 8:04:37 AM EDT
I just completed an M4 select fire transition course last night. Started with a clean M16 with Noveske Crusader upper. Upper has about 4000K rounds through it. Shot a total of 2700 rounds without cleaning. Lubed the BCG each morning with Slip2000. First 500 rds were Barnaul .223.  last 2200 rds was Federal XM193c. At about 500 rounds, experienced a type 1 malfunction (Barnaul). Bravo Co. metal mag with Magpul follower. Round was out of spec. Around 2600 rds experienced a type three malfunction, again with Bravo Co. mag (cleared with a type three malfunction drill) No further malfunctions occurred.

I have 15 range Pmags and 15 range metal mags, a couple are the Bravo Co. mags with magpul followers. I had no other problems with mags except the Bravo mag. It's an old mag and has been beat pretty badly over the years.

Conclusion:

Lubrication:
I have been using Slip2000 for about 4 years now, summer and winter but have always cleaned at the end of the day/range session. Even at the Magpul Carbine 1&2 I cleaned each day. This is the first time I just let it go until the end of the class. I experienced no lubrication related issues.

Pmags:
I have been using Pmags since they first came out and even have some of the Gen 1 recalled mags as well as a combination of Gen 2-3 mags as well. I have yet to have a mag related malfunction with a Pmag. Also have never had a type 1 malfunction from failing to seat the magazine with a Pmag.

I know that I'm probably preaching to the choir  but wanted to share my observations.

Until that day,
Darkop


9/28/2010 8:12:38 AM EDT
[#1]
Thank you for taking the time to make the post, quality and much appreciated
9/28/2010 9:15:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks for the post, I always appreciate reading AARs like these.  More encouragement for me to sell my new pre-ban GI mags to those behind enemy lines for the cost of an equal number of replacement PMAGs.  

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9/28/2010 9:21:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Lol I just wish I could find slip 2k in fbx lol.

Good aar though. One of these years I'll be able to afford fancy lol
9/28/2010 10:02:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Hey man I never wanted to run an ar platform the Minis were got to go then ruger had to come out with the 556 damn there I went had to buy one and the minis have went to the way side
9/28/2010 10:55:31 PM EDT
[#5]
Where do you get Slip 2000 in Alaska?.....Last time I had to order and ship it up.
9/29/2010 6:53:17 AM EDT
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Where do you get Slip 2000 in Alaska?.....Last time I had to order and ship it up.



It's been a while since I ordered any. I got a quart squirt bottle a couple of years ago from Brownells and they shipped it. I don't think it is Haz-Mat. Another observation, I just wiped the bolts clean on 1 AR and 1 M16 and re lubed. They both just wiped clean without solvent.

As far as Pmags go, I've come to the conclusion there the best. I was reluctant at first due to the poor performance of some "Other" poly mags. I am sitting on about 100 GI mags and will be selling them this winter along with that dumb Magpul AFG. I thought that the AFG was going to be the shit after switching to the MagPul grip but have pulled them from the three guns I was running them on, just more versatility without it.

I don't know what the rules are for selling in the HTF but I will be selling a bit of AR related stuff this winter.

Until that day,
Darkop

Edit: to state I just saw UAFGRAD's selling in the HTF post. I won't be selling anything in the HTF  :-)
9/29/2010 7:29:44 PM EDT
[#7]
What is this Slip 2000 stuff?

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9/29/2010 8:19:32 PM EDT
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What is this Slip 2000 stuff?

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Non-Toxic, Biodegradable, non-stinky, and dang good lube.  

I use the EWL version.  It is not hazmat.  I I think Slip shipped mine up FedEx IIRC.  

The lack of stank as well as working at least as good as CLP as lube is my reason for loving it.  I can't tell you how many times my munchkins dumped gun oil all over the place here.
9/29/2010 9:28:55 PM EDT
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Quoted:
What is this Slip 2000 stuff?

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Non-Toxic, Biodegradable, non-stinky, and dang good lube.  

I use the EWL version.  It is not hazmat.  I I think Slip shipped mine up FedEx IIRC.  

The lack of stank as well as working at least as good as CLP as lube is my reason for loving it.  I can't tell you how many times my munchkins dumped gun oil all over the place here.


I might have to order some of that, thanks.

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9/30/2010 11:09:43 AM EDT
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Where do you get Slip 2000 in Alaska?.....Last time I had to order and ship it up.


Grouse Ridge shotgunning club in Wasilla has a pretty complete seclection of Slip products including the EWL 2000, piston parts cleaner, etc.  They are kind of a pain to get to unless you live in the Valley though.

Never seen any SLIP stuff at the Spurtsmans Whorehouse.  I'm surprised they don't carry it.

10/1/2010 1:31:14 PM EDT
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Lol I just wish I could find slip 2k in fbx lol.

Good aar though. One of these years I'll be able to afford fancy lol


I buy in bulk from brownells, cheaper that way if you mix it with a order of gun cleaner and carbon killer.