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5/20/2014 9:57:07 AM EDT



I have put 200rds through it since I got it. The front sight needs to be fixed it can be moved with your fingers. otherwise awesome gun for the money. Waiting to hear from good medicine to see if he has a mold for this gun. Then some mags and ammo!
5/20/2014 10:08:11 AM EDT
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Looks good. What kind of range can you get with the bushing?
5/20/2014 10:18:36 AM EDT
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About 15 feet with 1moa accuracy
Pretty impressive

ETA: In my defense I haven't done the idiot scratch yet.
5/20/2014 3:55:46 PM EDT
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Your group is 1/20th inch at 5 yards?
5/20/2014 4:03:30 PM EDT
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cool pistol.
5/20/2014 4:09:25 PM EDT
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It was meant for the bushing comment lol

I was getting about 3" group at 20 ft until the front site started moving all over the place
5/20/2014 4:24:37 PM EDT
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Your group is 1/20th inch at 5 yards?


When he launches the bushing trying to reassemble it is.
5/20/2014 6:55:30 PM EDT
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The Rugers seem to be plagued with front sight issues. It's a pity, they're great guns other than that. I was looking for one a couple months ago and read that they're known for shearing front sights off under recoil, bought a stainless Remington instead. Since yours is having sight issues, maybe skipping a factory replacement and having someone fit an aftermarket sight would be a better fix. IIRC it's not a standard Novak cut so fitting will be needed.

If you go with factory replacement, I hear they've been sending shipping labels and guns are coming back to owners within 2 weeks of leaving, so annoying or not, at least they get fixed fast.
5/20/2014 8:30:34 PM EDT
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The Rugers seem to be plagued with front sight issues. It's a pity, they're great guns other than that. I was looking for one a couple months ago and read that they're known for shearing front sights off under recoil, bought a stainless Remington instead. Since yours is having sight issues, maybe skipping a factory replacement and having someone fit an aftermarket sight would be a better fix. IIRC it's not a standard Novak cut so fitting will be needed.

If you go with factory replacement, I hear they've been sending shipping labels and guns are coming back to owners within 2 weeks of leaving, so annoying or not, at least they get fixed fast.
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It's at JT guns for now if they can fix it that will be cool if not I'll send it in
5/21/2014 9:37:43 AM EDT
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the ruger, taurus, and remington 1911s all fit pretty closely in the same category.  all in all, they are fine, but not much on the internals and fit/finish compared to others...  of course there are few in that price range that do everything well, so you get what you get.  it is a 'value' oriented gun.

there aren't that many out there that really stand out as 'best in class' below $1000, unless you're snagging a sig 1911.  they're doing things right and at a great price point...  
5/21/2014 12:52:31 PM EDT
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the ruger, taurus, and remington 1911s all fit pretty closely in the same category.  all in all, they are fine, but not much on the internals and fit/finish compared to others...  of course there are few in that price range that do everything well, so you get what you get.  it is a 'value' oriented gun.

there aren't that many out there that really stand out as 'best in class' below $1000, unless you're snagging a sig 1911.  they're doing things right and at a great price point...  
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the ruger, taurus, and remington 1911s all fit pretty closely in the same category.  all in all, they are fine, but not much on the internals and fit/finish compared to others...  of course there are few in that price range that do everything well, so you get what you get.  it is a 'value' oriented gun.

there aren't that many out there that really stand out as 'best in class' below $1000, unless you're snagging a sig 1911.  they're doing things right and at a great price point...  


For the money though the Ruger has the most features and $650 price tag is what made me choose it
5/21/2014 1:26:09 PM EDT
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I had heard rugers fair very well on water saturation tests.  
5/21/2014 2:55:22 PM EDT
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the ruger, taurus, and remington 1911s all fit pretty closely in the same category.  all in all, they are fine, but not much on the internals and fit/finish compared to others...  of course there are few in that price range that do everything well, so you get what you get.  it is a 'value' oriented gun.

there aren't that many out there that really stand out as 'best in class' below $1000, unless you're snagging a sig 1911.  they're doing things right and at a great price point...  


For the money though the Ruger has the most features and $650 price tag is what made me choose it

I should have waited to buy mine I paid 749 for my sr1911
5/21/2014 3:01:00 PM EDT
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Yep, I picked up mine from the Rhine Group, and had it cerakoted by some idiot in Baxter.
Got a great deal, and supported those who support me


I feel like I got more than twice the gun, over the cost friendly offerings. So the price is very fair... Plus we all know I'm a bit of a Sig whore
5/21/2014 3:26:09 PM EDT
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5/21/2014 3:32:33 PM EDT
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Bro!

You back in the home state?
Where is my invite to the diner?
5/21/2014 3:38:14 PM EDT
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The last thing you need is a free meal...
5/21/2014 3:38:17 PM EDT
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5/21/2014 3:50:41 PM EDT
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No wonder the service is always so bad...


Well in any case, I'll be over Saturday for my free meal
5/21/2014 3:55:52 PM EDT
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the ruger, taurus, and remington 1911s all fit pretty closely in the same category.  all in all, they are fine, but not much on the internals and fit/finish compared to others...  of course there are few in that price range that do everything well, so you get what you get.  it is a 'value' oriented gun.

there aren't that many out there that really stand out as 'best in class' below $1000, unless you're snagging a sig 1911.  they're doing things right and at a great price point...  


For the money though the Ruger has the most features and $650 price tag is what made me choose it

Yeah, if I'd found one in stock I'd have probably still gotten a Ruger, but I don't care one way or the other about extended safeties and there's a $75 rebate on the Remington. Had absolutely no problems with the blued one I had, traded it because I wanted as Contender and had the idea in my head to get a stainless 1911 eventually too.
5/21/2014 3:58:35 PM EDT
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Haha I laughed real hard at this
5/21/2014 5:45:10 PM EDT
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sig 1911

this one was $850 about the same features
5/22/2014 7:00:02 AM EDT
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it's important you understand i'm not criticizing you or beating you down.  i'm glad you picked up a 1911.  EVERYBODY has to own at least one...    i'm tickled you are digging it.

that said, those two aren't the same.  the ruger you bought doesn't have front grip texturing and that is a big deal for how accurate you can be and how quickly you can get back on target.  the sig you posted a link to does have it.  we hand cut that checkering into pistols for people all the time and the difference in shootability is huge.  having grip checkering isn't a prerequisite, but i recommend it.  also, the sights on the sig are really good ones, IF that's the kind of system you prefer.  the rugers are bone stock dots.

so there are some subtle but substantial exterior differences.  when it comes to internals, they aren't the same.  not even close.  the sig, weapon for weapon, is going to be tighter with a better fit in the lug area, the slide to frame contact, the underside of the slide finish, and things right down to casting slag chunks, machine marks, etc.  again, these things don't mean a ruger, a rem, or a taurus are junk.  they certainly aren't.  but exterior finish, a couple of features, etc. don't define just how great a pistol can be.

enjoy the heck out of your pistol.  a 1911 is a cornerstone and 100% necessary in any person's collection.  in fact, i dare you to see if you can wear it out...  i doubt you will.  

-michael
5/22/2014 9:30:48 AM EDT
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With that said  could the rugers be "fixed" also is it a huge deal on changing sights? Or would I be better off ditching it and buying a SIG? I really do like mine but I want it to be a top notch firearm
5/22/2014 12:19:53 PM EDT
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sure.  we literally make our living off that stuff.  we get tons of good 'base' units in here like those and smooth, stone, enhance, accurize, etc. on them.  my comments were simply to point out the differences that can be quantified in comparison to cosmetics at a 5 foot glance.  that's all.

we do as much work to armscor/rock island arsenal 1911s as we do les baers, wilsons, or nighthawk customs and all points in between.  

as an example, if you were spending $900 on a 1911 and wanted top resale because you were going to sell it in a few months, then the sig would hold ok.  if you were going to go shoot the heck out of it, then a lower cost unit with the smithing we do would take it up to the $900 level pretty quickly, but obviously not bring as much since it didn't 'book' for as much...  that's a gross generalization of course, but you kind of see what i'm getting at.

honest to goodness, most folks buy the cheaper ones and then bring them to us.  i think that can be a good way to go for two reasons.  1, they can pay for the end result in stages and spread it out.  2, i always recommend somebody go TRY IT ON first before the list of mods.  why?  sometimes they just don't need them, so if it runs like a top, is ultra accurate, etc. (and some are) then don't put the extra money in it and instead spend it on ammo, range time, and quality training...

make sense?
5/22/2014 4:02:21 PM EDT
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sure.  we literally make our living off that stuff.  we get tons of good 'base' units in here like those and smooth, stone, enhance, accurize, etc. on them.  my comments were simply to point out the differences that can be quantified in comparison to cosmetics at a 5 foot glance.  that's all.

we do as much work to armscor/rock island arsenal 1911s as we do les baers, wilsons, or nighthawk customs and all points in between.  

as an example, if you were spending $900 on a 1911 and wanted top resale because you were going to sell it in a few months, then the sig would hold ok.  if you were going to go shoot the heck out of it, then a lower cost unit with the smithing we do would take it up to the $900 level pretty quickly, but obviously not bring as much since it didn't 'book' for as much...  that's a gross generalization of course, but you kind of see what i'm getting at.

honest to goodness, most folks buy the cheaper ones and then bring them to us.  i think that can be a good way to go for two reasons.  1, they can pay for the end result in stages and spread it out.  2, i always recommend somebody go TRY IT ON first before the list of mods.  why?  sometimes they just don't need them, so if it runs like a top, is ultra accurate, etc. (and some are) then don't put the extra money in it and instead spend it on ammo, range time, and quality training...

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sure.  we literally make our living off that stuff.  we get tons of good 'base' units in here like those and smooth, stone, enhance, accurize, etc. on them.  my comments were simply to point out the differences that can be quantified in comparison to cosmetics at a 5 foot glance.  that's all.

we do as much work to armscor/rock island arsenal 1911s as we do les baers, wilsons, or nighthawk customs and all points in between.  

as an example, if you were spending $900 on a 1911 and wanted top resale because you were going to sell it in a few months, then the sig would hold ok.  if you were going to go shoot the heck out of it, then a lower cost unit with the smithing we do would take it up to the $900 level pretty quickly, but obviously not bring as much since it didn't 'book' for as much...  that's a gross generalization of course, but you kind of see what i'm getting at.

honest to goodness, most folks buy the cheaper ones and then bring them to us.  i think that can be a good way to go for two reasons.  1, they can pay for the end result in stages and spread it out.  2, i always recommend somebody go TRY IT ON first before the list of mods.  why?  sometimes they just don't need them, so if it runs like a top, is ultra accurate, etc. (and some are) then don't put the extra money in it and instead spend it on ammo, range time, and quality training...

make sense?

It does I bought it to the 3gun shoot and I was really debating about leaving it there as I am in no rush for it. But I need glass for a bolt gun for the upcoming shoot
5/22/2014 4:09:57 PM EDT
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it's important you understand i'm not criticizing you or beating you down.  i'm glad you picked up a 1911.  EVERYBODY has to own at least one...    i'm tickled you are digging it.

that said, those two aren't the same.  the ruger you bought doesn't have front grip texturing and that is a big deal for how accurate you can be and how quickly you can get back on target.  the sig you posted a link to does have it.  we hand cut that checkering into pistols for people all the time and the difference in shootability is huge.  having grip checkering isn't a prerequisite, but i recommend it.  also, the sights on the sig are really good ones, IF that's the kind of system you prefer.  the rugers are bone stock dots.

so there are some subtle but substantial exterior differences.  when it comes to internals, they aren't the same.  not even close.  the sig, weapon for weapon, is going to be tighter with a better fit in the lug area, the slide to frame contact, the underside of the slide finish, and things right down to casting slag chunks, machine marks, etc.  again, these things don't mean a ruger, a rem, or a taurus are junk.  they certainly aren't.  but exterior finish, a couple of features, etc. don't define just how great a pistol can be.

enjoy the heck out of your pistol.  a 1911 is a cornerstone and 100% necessary in any person's collection.  in fact, i dare you to see if you can wear it out...  i doubt you will.  

-michael
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it's important you understand i'm not criticizing you or beating you down.  i'm glad you picked up a 1911.  EVERYBODY has to own at least one...    i'm tickled you are digging it.

that said, those two aren't the same.  the ruger you bought doesn't have front grip texturing and that is a big deal for how accurate you can be and how quickly you can get back on target.  the sig you posted a link to does have it.  we hand cut that checkering into pistols for people all the time and the difference in shootability is huge.  having grip checkering isn't a prerequisite, but i recommend it.  also, the sights on the sig are really good ones, IF that's the kind of system you prefer.  the rugers are bone stock dots.

so there are some subtle but substantial exterior differences.  when it comes to internals, they aren't the same.  not even close.  the sig, weapon for weapon, is going to be tighter with a better fit in the lug area, the slide to frame contact, the underside of the slide finish, and things right down to casting slag chunks, machine marks, etc.  again, these things don't mean a ruger, a rem, or a taurus are junk.  they certainly aren't.  but exterior finish, a couple of features, etc. don't define just how great a pistol can be.

enjoy the heck out of your pistol.  a 1911 is a cornerstone and 100% necessary in any person's collection.  in fact, i dare you to see if you can wear it out...  i doubt you will.  

-michael


I know I wasn't trying to saying your wrong I really want a more expensive one but it's out of my price range I definitely want to add some stuff down the road and I'll come to you for that.
5/23/2014 5:28:08 AM EDT
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it's important you understand i'm not criticizing you or beating you down.  i'm glad you picked up a 1911.  EVERYBODY has to own at least one...    i'm tickled you are digging it.

that said, those two aren't the same.  the ruger you bought doesn't have front grip texturing and that is a big deal for how accurate you can be and how quickly you can get back on target.  the sig you posted a link to does have it.  we hand cut that checkering into pistols for people all the time and the difference in shootability is huge.  having grip checkering isn't a prerequisite, but i recommend it.  also, the sights on the sig are really good ones, IF that's the kind of system you prefer.  the rugers are bone stock dots.

so there are some subtle but substantial exterior differences.  when it comes to internals, they aren't the same.  not even close.  the sig, weapon for weapon, is going to be tighter with a better fit in the lug area, the slide to frame contact, the underside of the slide finish, and things right down to casting slag chunks, machine marks, etc.  again, these things don't mean a ruger, a rem, or a taurus are junk.  they certainly aren't.  but exterior finish, a couple of features, etc. don't define just how great a pistol can be.

enjoy the heck out of your pistol.  a 1911 is a cornerstone and 100% necessary in any person's collection.  in fact, i dare you to see if you can wear it out...  i doubt you will.  

-michael


I know I wasn't trying to saying your wrong I really want a more expensive one but it's out of my price range I definitely want to add some stuff down the road and I'll come to you for that.


i know.  no worries.  i knew what you meant, but i wanted everyone to consider the fact that exterior appearance from a distance isn't the same up close and certainly doesn't impact what the guts are like...  



go shoot the heck out of it and then you'll be in a good or better position to decide what things you want to consider, if any, in regards to mods or upgrades.
5/27/2014 11:25:21 AM EDT
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I had a Sig TacOps I picked up new just as the craze was dying down.  I picked up a new TLR-1s for $80-something and that was the only thing I ever added.  I had a "tactical" 1911 that, out of the box, outshot my SA Mil-Spec quite noticeably.  Also, the interwebs seemed to be full of people having issues with the included mags but I never had an issue through around 450 rds.  Septic is correct, SIG's 1911s are no joke.