Posted: 7/13/2010 12:11:53 PM EDT
This past week, in response to an NRA letter opposing the City of West Burlington’s “firearm ban” ordinance, Mayor Trousil said: “That’s too bad… they need to sit in our chairs and worry about these nut jobs that go around with guns.” Why does Mayor Trousil think that Iowans, who decide to exercise their rights and lawfully carry or possess a firearm to defend themselves and their family, are “nut jobs?” 
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I called and talked to 2 different city employees and they both told me how the mayor owns lots of guns himself and he was only referring to the "dangerous" people.  Wonder if he is one of them? Anyone in DesMoines Co. want to go ask the Sheriff for a list of permit holders?
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"City of West Burlington’s “firearm ban” ordinance"
What is this? I visit West Burlington sometimes & plan on getting a CCW permit in January. Is this something I should know about? Quoted:
Anyone in DesMoines Co. want to go ask the Sheriff for a list of permit holders? I thought you were in Des Moines county? |
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I called and talked to 2 different city employees and they both told me how the mayor owns lots of guns himself and he was only referring to the "dangerous" people. Wonder if he is one of them? No, he is apparently one of the only ones. the only one, noun 1) A person who does not believe in freedom for other people, only for him/her self. 2) A person who claims prowess greatly exceeding that of others. Unfortunately this difference exists only in the person's own mind. synonym: NIMBY, hypocrite, politician antonym: U.S. citizen, normal person, everyone else Use: "I'm the only one in this room professional enough that I know of to carry this Glock .40, *BANG* *SHIT*" |
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I had no idea there was a gun ban enacted there until I got that NRA email. Honestly, my initial interpretation of his statement had me thinking he was referring to legitimately crazy/criminal individuals with guns, not the entire gun-owning populace. The real criminals and legitimately crazy will ignore the ban. No, this kind of law is directed at everyone who isn't a member of the mayor's elite circle. If you ask me, the nut in this case is the Mayor. He should be ashamed. And run out of office. |
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Holy SH*T I actually got a response to my email....i will paste it below
I appreciate the comments made about the right to bear arms that are protected by the second amendment. I also believe that each individual has a right to state their opinion. I am going to set the record straight because some of you have not investigated far enough or do not have the information to make an intelligent decision base on the e-mails that I have received from you. The City of West Burlington passed a Weapon Free Ordinance in 2002. This does not prohibit the purchase or carrying of guns in our community. It established weapon free zones in municipal owned buildings. Iowa State Code, 724.4A Weapon free zones, means the area within 1,000 feet of, the real property comprising a public or private elementary or secondary school, or in or on the real property comprising a public park. Three West Burlington municipal buildings are located within 1,000 feet of a school, including city hall. The United States Supreme Court did not rule against Weapon Free Zones in their decision to allow the sale of guns in the City of Chicago. The Supreme Court specifically addressed “We made it clear in Heller that our holding did not cast doubt on such longstanding regulatory measures as “prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill”, laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing the conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms” The statement that I am quoted on was not complete by those who wish to take it out of context. This is the whole statement, “There are a lot of nut jobs out there with guns who want to do harm to innocent people, including elected officials, but not every gun owner is a nut job”. The NRA, specifically the leadership has put out only what it wants their members to see and not the whole story, and like sheep being let to slaughter the membership fell for it. The letter send by the NRA in an e-mail was not sent to me, I received a forwarded e-mail with the attached letter from one of our council members. Less than 3 feet from where this letter is being drafted is a gun cabinet with 7 guns. I hunted for many years and enjoyed the sport. But I do not intend to bring any of those guns to a City Council meeting. Common sense alone should tell us that weapons have no business in a setting where discussions could become heated and out of control. No I do not have police protection, I am big enough to take care of myself. When was the last time any of you carried your concealed weapons into the Iowa State House, the United States Capitol or the White House, unless you where authorized to do so as a member of a police force, a member of our armed services or a correctional officer? Hans K Trousil, Mayor City of West Burlington |
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Let's break that down a little:
Hans K Trousil, Mayor, City of West Burlington
The City of West Burlington passed a Weapon Free Ordinance in 2002. This does not prohibit the purchase or carrying of guns in our community. It established weapon free zones in municipal owned buildings. Iowa State Code, 724.4A Weapon free zones, means the area within 1,000 feet of, the real property comprising a public or private elementary or secondary school, or in or on the real property comprising a public park. Three West Burlington municipal buildings are located within 1,000 feet of a school, including city hall. ...misinterpretation of USSC decisions... 1) He clearly doesn't understand WHAT an Iowa Code "weapons free zone" is (merely an enhanced penalty for real crimes committed there involving a weapon).. 2) He actually believes that a "weapons free zone" will keep people safe. 3) As a follow-on to #1, he clearly doesn't understand the state preemption statute. I hunted ... sport ... Common sense ... weapons have no business in a setting ... Typical Brady words for some guns are more equal than others. He is clearly an Only One. |
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Let's break that down a little: Hans K Trousil, Mayor, City of West Burlington
The City of West Burlington passed a Weapon Free Ordinance in 2002. This does not prohibit the purchase or carrying of guns in our community. It established weapon free zones in municipal owned buildings. Iowa State Code, 724.4A Weapon free zones, means the area within 1,000 feet of, the real property comprising a public or private elementary or secondary school, or in or on the real property comprising a public park. Three West Burlington municipal buildings are located within 1,000 feet of a school, including city hall. ...misinterpretation of USSC decisions... 1) He clearly doesn't understand WHAT an Iowa Code "weapons free zone" is (merely an enhanced penalty for real crimes committed there involving a weapon).. 2) He actually believes that a "weapons free zone" will keep people safe. 3) As a follow-on to #1, he clearly doesn't understand the state preemption statute. +1 
I hunted ... sport ... Common sense ... weapons have no business in a setting ... Typical Brady words for some guns are more equal than others. He is clearly an Only One. |
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Hans talks big, but he's probably all hat and no cattle. He's clearly a FUD and not very knowledgeable about the law.
FWIW, down here we've got a separate entrance for CHL holders to enter the Texas State Capitol building. That has had an interesting side effect of pretty much all the lobbyists and other people who visit the Capitol complex frequently going out and getting CHLs just so they can get faster access to the building since the checkpoints for CHLs are usually less busy and faster. |
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let me put it to you guys like this... lol... if mr. mayor opts to continue backing an ordinance that is ILLEGAL and opposes the iowa code, he might consider how many pop cans he'll have to pick up to pay the attorney fees associated with fighting this in court. i can assure you if this guy keeps thumbing his nose at the law and running his yap all of tom miller's advice won't mean much when he and the associated city have their asses handed to them in court. if he and that city continue this course of action they'll be inviting one of the largest and most powerful groups in the country in town for a showdown. i am quite sure i know who'll win...
if this guy was smart he'd quit the course of ahab and let the white fish go... we all know how moby dick ended... |
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I'm laughing at how many emails they must be getting now that the IFC alert was sent out.
I hope you all hit it. Start here and use the links if you aren't signed up: http://www.capwiz.com/iowacarry/issues/?style=D& Good times. |
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Funny this whole thing.
My mother works for a certain unusually high criminal activity city in Iowa as a prosecutor. My brother and I brought her a Glock 19 because she worries about her safety(rightfully so, her car has been vandalised, go figure). I mentioned that to her I had a weapons permit and she then went on about a certain defense attorney in town that is very strange the carries a pistol. My question was, "Hey, it is his right, what's your beef? I don't care how strange you may be, you should be able to to protect you family and your life. She came around, thankfully. Hopefully, the chicken-shit assholes that she locks up everyday come to the realization that she is just doing her job. If not, I hope they come looking for me.  But, cowards will be cowards. Thankless work really. Go MOM!, and don't forget about that Glock.
Here are two assholes that won't question people's right to defend themselves. Also, we won't waste tax dollars defending them in court for being complete wastes on society. 
Oh, BTW, it helped that the man that killed them was black as well. Sad, but true. |
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I'm laughing at how many emails they must be getting now that the IFC alert was sent out. I hope you all hit it. Start here and use the links if you aren't signed up: http://www.capwiz.com/iowacarry/issues/?style=D& Good times. hit the action center my fellow nut jobs, and let them know we're not going to put up with this crapola... |
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I have sent the emails, even got a few responses, the only one with any kind of intellegent response was the one I posted. The others werent worth the digital code they were made up with.
I am a Nut Job and proud of it.....I wonder since I own 4 ARs, 13 AKs, 4 shotguns, 6 handguns if i can be called a Mixed Nut Job.....i just have this thing were I want to be different... 
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| I received the same email response you did. Apparently Mr. Trousil doesn't realize that he shows he doesn't understand State preemption when he states the following: "The City of West Burlington passed a Weapon Free Ordinance in 2002. This does not prohibit the purchase or carrying of guns in our community. It established weapon free zones in municipal owned buildings." |
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Just got his email back with the same dribble.
My response: Sir, "When was the last time any of you carried your concealed weapons into the Iowa State House, the United States Capitol or the White House, unless you where authorized to do so as a member of a police force, a member of our armed services or a correctional officer?" Sir, as a person that once guarded everyone at the airport post 9/11, had the privelige to guard Airforce One along with other vehicles, on several ocasions, and deployed to a war, I find your illegal ordinace appalling. I was ok to carry loaded weapons, and given the keys to an entire armory of military weapons, in all of the above named situations but you along with the rest of the city council don't think I should carry a gun. Law breakers will ignore you! Don't you have the same type of ordinace for drugs? Does it do any good or is it just another charge against the criminal? This type of thinking needs to stop. If the state already has a law in place making it illegal for a gun to be carried in those areas why does the city need to reiterate? |
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I responded to his email with the following:
Thank you for your response Mr. Trousil. Using only the information you have provided in this email, it is apparent that you do not understand Iowa Code, and laws regarding State Preemption. The following statement, that you wrote, explains that you do not understand that Burlington's Weapon Free Ordinance is illegal now, just as it was in 2002 when your city adopted it:
"The City of West Burlington passed a Weapon Free Ordinance in 2002. This does not prohibit the purchase or carrying of guns in our community. It established weapon free zones in municipal owned buildings." These are your words showing your lack of knowledge on the subject, not ones put into your mouth by the NRA or anyone else. How, exactly, does a law banning firearms in municipal places keep a criminal from showing up with a gun? Aren't criminals, by definition, people who do not obey the law? How can you say that anyone other than law-abiding citizens are effected by this ordinance? I will post if I get a further response. |
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Here is my response to his email nonsense
Hans I appreciate the response, I honestly didn’t think I would get one. However I am an Iowa CCW permit holder, have been for a few years so I am familiar with Iowa Chapter 724 laws and regulations. However, why should the Second Amendment stop at a City Park or in a municipal owned building? Your statement alone, is a perfect example of why it shouldn’t be enforced…people wanted to do harm to others, including elected officials…. Yourself and the rest of the Council should have the right to self defense just like any of us. I don’t know how City Council meetings are in your town, but I know in my city they have armed officers on site. The statement that I am quoted on was not complete by those who wish to take it out of context. This is the whole statement, “There are a lot of nut jobs out there with guns who want to do harm to innocent people, including elected officials, but not every gun owner is a nut job”.” Do you honestly think or believe that a person with criminal intent to cause harm with a firearm, or any weapon for that matter is going to pay any attention, to a city ordinance banning such weapons in a particular location. Did the gang bangers or other criminals every pay attention to the 28 year handgun ban for Chicago that was recently struck down. We both know the answer to that as Chicago has one of the highest gun crime rates in the country. |
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and this is the response I got. Mr. Johnson The chief of police attends all city council meetings unless he has another commitment and then the Lieutenant is available. Hans K Trousil, Mayor dear hans, so fucking what? your pal, septic I laughed so hard at that i think I peed a little bit. |
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this was my response to mayor trousil's response:
Mayor Trousil, You act and speak with foolishness. Arguing over what you did or didn't say is of no concern to any man of pride and worth. I don't care what you said. Nobody else does either... What counts here is the fact that you are an elected representative of the City of West Burlington; A city that holds an illegal ordinance and is in direct conflict with the Iowa Code. This scenario is simple. You can either remove your illegal ordinance from the city books, or leave the illegal ordinance intact and accept the next obvious conclusion. Considering I travel through West Burlington (AKA Trousilgrad) often while armed with a weapon using my Iowa permit to carry, if I stop at a county institution will I be issued a citation or arrested? Are you actually enforcing this silliness or just using this 'opportunity' to get your name in the papers? Regards, My Name - Iowan - American ...haven't seen a response yet... |
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this was my response to mayor trousil's response: Mayor Trousil, You act and speak with foolishness. Arguing over what you did or didn't say is of no concern to any man of pride and worth. I don't care what you said. Nobody else does either... What counts here is the fact that you are an elected representative of the City of West Burlington; A city that holds an illegal ordinance and is in direct conflict with the Iowa Code. This scenario is simple. You can either remove your illegal ordinance from the city books, or leave the illegal ordinance intact and accept the next obvious conclusion. Considering I travel through West Burlington (AKA Trousilgrad) often while armed with a weapon using my Iowa permit to carry, if I stop at a county institution will I be issued a citation or arrested? Are you actually enforcing this silliness or just using this 'opportunity' to get your name in the papers? Regards, My Name - Iowan - American ...haven't seen a response yet... The last paragraph was sweet. |
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the ramifications of this city's foolishness are something that can be spread far and wide. be sure you let everyone know about THIS means to speak your piece... make sure you all do it and spread the word to your friends and family.
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