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3/11/2010 7:22:29 PM EDT
so since i know my good buddies in iowa love to build ...... ok guys here is the deal money is sparse since i moved. i am gonna attempt my very first build. its for my gf who cant hold the weight of a regular upper. i will build a lower eventually but wanna do the upper first as i can throw it on a lower i have now. k i need the lightest possible components and wanna do a 16 inch barrel.  help please ?. and trust me ill need help building it im a true blonde
3/11/2010 7:40:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Most of the manufacturers (Model 1 Sales & others in Shotgun News) sell a lightweight AR upper with a pencil barrel.  Now granted they are already built but lately trying to find individual components has been a little hard to find, although it does seem like supply is catching up with demand and dealers are showing items in stock.  Since you've already got the lower that saves money but adds weight...I just bought a couple CavArms MKII lowers and I'm going to build one for my daughter with a Tac Sol .22lr AR upper and it will be VERY light weight.  I believe I seen that the CavArms lower/stock combination is a pound or more lighter in weight than a "standard" AR configuration of metal materials.  I look forward to what others will have to say as I'm new to this lightweight AR stuff myself.
3/11/2010 7:44:15 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Most of the manufacturers (Model 1 Sales & others in Shotgun News) sell a lightweight AR upper with a pencil barrel.  Now granted they are already built but lately trying to find individual components has been a little hard to find, although it does seem like supply is catching up with demand and dealers are showing items in stock.  Since you've already got the lower that saves money but adds weight...I just bought a couple CavArms MKII lowers and I'm going to build one for my daughter with a Tac Sol .22lr AR upper and it will be VERY light weight.  I believe I seen that the CavArms lower/stock combination is a pound or more lighter in weight than a "standard" AR configuration of metal materials.  I look forward to what others will have to say as I'm new to this lightweight AR stuff myself.


ok thanx
3/11/2010 10:25:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Call Ron at ApexODT.com

located in Marion ia

he's got alot of resources for parts etc.
3/12/2010 4:09:07 AM EDT
[#4]
Here's a handy table for weights of different items (courtesy of another arfcom member).

Weight Table

I'm in the process of lightening my carbine as well. a 16" pencil barrel and a 14.5" M4 config. w/ pinned FH to reach 16" are close to the same weight. Not that the .223 is a real kicker, but keep in mind, the lighter you go, the more 'felt' recoil there will be.
3/12/2010 3:47:49 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Here's a handy table for weights of different items (courtesy of another arfcom member).

Weight Table

I'm in the process of lightening my carbine as well. a 16" pencil barrel and a 14.5" M4 config. w/ pinned FH to reach 16" are close to the same weight. Not that the .223 is a real kicker, but keep in mind, the lighter you go, the more 'felt' recoil there will be.


recoil is not an issue. she has an issue trying to shoulder it.
3/12/2010 4:43:20 PM EDT
[#6]
I know Septic will yell at me, but the lightest option would be a pencil barrel chopped to 14.5" w/ a perm. attached muzzle device to bring it to 16"

A close second would be a pencil bbl w/ a target crown and no threads at 16" Throw a carbon fiber tube on there w/ a smooth sided upper and you have a VERY light piece.
3/13/2010 4:12:21 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I know Septic will yell at me, but the lightest option would be a pencil barrel chopped to 14.5" w/ a perm. attached muzzle device to bring it to 16"

A close second would be a pencil bbl w/ a target crown and no threads at 16" Throw a carbon fiber tube on there w/ a smooth sided upper and you have a VERY light piece.


yell, yell.



3/13/2010 7:01:51 AM EDT
[#8]
I picked up one of these barrels from Brownell's:

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=23131/Product/AR_15_M16_SERVICE_RIFLE_BARRELS

I used it to build a VERY light weight carbine.
3/13/2010 8:19:48 AM EDT
[#9]
I was impressed with that, and if it happens to follow you out to septics at a future get together, I would relish the opportunity to shoot it.  That charging handle was really interesting.
3/13/2010 8:27:54 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I was impressed with that, and if it happens to follow you out to septics at a future get together, I would relish the opportunity to shoot it.  That charging handle was really interesting.


agreed.

3/13/2010 9:40:14 AM EDT
[#11]
I'm sure the double star is a better barrel, but 'DEZ Arms' has an A1 'match' pencil barrel for $130. The dbl star is $230 after fake-superhero discount (that's the one I get).
3/13/2010 2:10:09 PM EDT
[#12]
DEZ would be an excellent choice too.   I have one of their 1919A4, 8MM barrels and barrel booster.   They are very well made and the people are nice to deal with.

3/15/2010 9:18:57 AM EDT
[#13]
16" Bushmaster SuperLight Barrel  chrome lined. Got one on a m4 upper and love it. 7 lbs 3 oz with A2 stock, Bushmaster carry handle, and sling. My 12y/o can shoot it no problem. I think its a good buy for $235 with everything but the upper.

On the cheaper side is the model 1 sales light weight from midway MODEL 1 BARREL out of stock till the 17th it says. It comes with just the sight base(no sight parts) and barrel nut

I have no first hand experience but price is right. I do have the model 1 M4 barrel and that thing will shoot.


3/15/2010 1:12:23 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
so since i know my good buddies in iowa love to build ...... ok guys here is the deal money is sparse since i moved. i am gonna attempt my very first build. its for my gf who cant hold the weight of a regular upper. i will build a lower eventually but wanna do the upper first as i can throw it on a lower i have now. k i need the lightest possible components and wanna do a 16 inch barrel.  help please ?. and trust me ill need help building it im a true blonde


Wouldn't it be easier to buy your GF a gym membership and have her build up some muscles...  
3/19/2010 7:56:17 PM EDT
[#15]
Here's a good deal on a used upper.  Check it out.  If you're not interested in buying, at least look at the parts breakdown he lists.

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/other-firearms-sale/147347-wts-complete-lightweight-16-upper-oh.html