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2/26/2009 7:54:47 PM EDT
I have a lot of problems with this article starting with the headline itself.  Please enlighten me on your opinions of this.


http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/40390657.html
2/27/2009 7:49:40 AM EDT
[#1]
http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/40390657.html
2/27/2009 7:51:51 AM EDT
[#2]
I dont have a problem with most of the story other than the "Some of those guns are more powerful than the ones police officers carry."
2/27/2009 11:24:54 AM EDT
[#3]
high-powered pistols, &   more powerful than the ones police officers carry

Are bullshit statements obviously meant to scare people by left leaning media employees.  (I hate calling them journalists)

I think it would be wise to impose an extension ladder ban as this seems to be the tool in which facilitated the burglury.

"Instead, he sent an email saying he'd only confirm there was a burglary at Scheel's, one or more guns were stolen, and one of those guns has been recovered in Charles Curry's possession.

Bedford said beyond that, he had nothing further to say including when we asked him if there was a public safety risk."

He sent an (indicating one)E-MAIL  so how could he have "nothing further to say when we asked him if there was a public safety risk"

Easy to ask a question after the response has been submitted, making it look like he denied an answer

The liberalism came through in the article.
2/27/2009 1:25:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Yes.  All that nonsense and the headline itself.  17 guns stolen from scheels was the original headline back on December Freakin 9th!!!  The title alone draws attention and makes it sound like a new incident.  This article was written to make people scared... its all bull.
2/27/2009 3:50:47 PM EDT
[#5]
this will continue to be more and more common and you guys should know better...  

every time this administration from a state level and federal level have a course of action, it'll be leaked and a strategy will unfold...  an example would be the "stimulus package"...  when W put this into motion, folks got a check.  while i didn't believe it was the right thing to do, people liked getting checks.  this time around if you had asked, as i did, an average joe what he thought of the "stimulus package" you'd have gotten what i got....  "yeah, i'm ready for my check" even though there will be no checks he was a bit opposed to spending the money, but he liked getting the check much much more than paying the debt...  thus, the media didn't mention there being no checks, huge amounts waste, and all at a cost we can't even imagine...  a bill 1000 pages long handed out at 11PM on friday determined to be voted on by the end of the day saturday.  a pdf no less, that can't be "keyword" searched for things like "abortion" "brady" "privacy" etc...  the fix was in from the start.  whether the media helped or was used via leaks and direction to aid the cause it matters little as the result was to get what the libs wanted.  it worked.

to 8mm,

in regards to that article what we should be thinking is WHY does this news of old surface at this time and WHO benefits.  is there a ramp up of gun friendly legislation in the iowa state house this season?  yes.  is there a ban ready to be on the way through the nation's legislature?  yes.  knowing those kinds of things, the best thing to do with a "plug in and download my daily thoughts from the tube" society would be to manipulate, cajole, or otherwise twist information and stories in such a fashion that it puts all things the lawmakers want in their favor.  whether this is spreading a ray of sunshine directly on their path or covering ours with a cloud the result is the same.

if mean if we really dissect this thing, you've got to wonder these things...  i try like hell not to be a conspiracy theorist.  and this isn't conspiracy and it isn't theory.  if we agree that sex sells and peace doesn't, then we have to concede news now more than ever has a strict agenda.  in a time when papers, news channels, and radio programs are bleeding employees, there would be no more self serving time than now to "do what you have to do" to stay afloat.  thus, you can count on shady sources, suspect, hearse, and general bullshit all as part of the norm.  they'll fuck us shitless if we let them...  

to all,

what you prepared to do?  i'm not interested in your rant, but seriously.  how far are you willing to go to make an impact.  what level of passion and pain do you think you're prepared for?

again to 8mm,

sorry you're LE and you don't have a pistol as powerful as mine.  if you'd like i could loan it to you...

-michael

2/27/2009 7:27:35 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:


again to 8mm,

sorry you're LE and you don't have a pistol as powerful as mine.  if you'd like i could loan it to you...

-michael



The fact that this is so shocking to me is because I never received an intelligence update that some thieves now have guns more powerful than mine.  If you could spare me an even more powerful handgun until this crisis calms down I would greatly appreciate it.  I saw a youtube video of some dude with a TC contender in 600 nitro; got one of those I could borrow?
2/27/2009 8:22:25 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:

what you prepared to do?  i'm not interested in your rant, but seriously.  how far are you willing to go to make an impact.  what level of passion and pain do you think you're prepared for?

-michael



I'm ready to peacefully march on Washington and get some liberal media attention.  I've been shy in the past and hid in the shadows, but it's time to put a face on the good people that support the second amendment.  We aren't cooks, nuts, or careless shooters.  In my local area the new gun  owners are doctors, vets, farmers, lawyers, etc, etc.  Unfortunately gun owners prefer to stay in hiding, so as to not be labeled by the media.  If you've seen the vids on u-tube of the Brits protesting in the streets, they are normal everyday people that want their guns back, from the system that has failed them.  
2/27/2009 11:45:26 PM EDT
[#8]
8mm:

I am with you on the peacfull means, but that said I honestly believe we are beyond that.  Our legislators don't give a damn what you call, email or write to them about, I don't think a march is going to do much good.  There is an agenda and thy seek to push it as far as they can.

Honestly, everybody is so ready to act, but the line in the sand seems to move farther back every day.  I hear this is the last straw, this is the last straw, no this is it. We are running out of sand  to be drawing lines in, pretty soon we will be drawing lines in the water that is about to consume us.

Septic:

Prepared to do?  That will run the gammet of emotions, with principle in second place.  I believe the vast majority of people with a shred of dignity are ready to act (but are not prepared in any manner to do so).  Unfortunatly the majority of the voting population don't posses much of it any more.  A man without pride, or dignity has nothing stand for.  

At what level am I prepared for?  
I have been cotemplating this quite seriosly for a while, maybe a few years now.  I have come to the conclusion, I as an individual am not "prepared", at least to my ideal of preparedness.

After reading this story lights out, I am under the beleif that this sort of crisis is what may just bring people back to reality.  Basicly restructure the way our communities cooperate, the way people treat each other, and reinstate a sense of worth to the mass population.

I don't know if this makes any sense, as it is late and I am somewhat and so if it doesn't I'll fix it or reword it today, or later, or tommorrow, whatever.
2/28/2009 6:07:42 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:

what you prepared to do?  i'm not interested in your rant, but seriously.  how far are you willing to go to make an impact.  what level of passion and pain do you think you're prepared for?

-michael



I'm ready to peacefully march on Washington and get some liberal media attention.  I've been shy in the past and hid in the shadows, but it's time to put a face on the good people that support the second amendment.  We aren't cooks, nuts, or careless shooters.  In my local area the new gun  owners are doctors, vets, farmers, lawyers, etc, etc.  Unfortunately gun owners prefer to stay in hiding, so as to not be labeled by the media.  If you've seen the vids on u-tube of the Brits protesting in the streets, they are normal everyday people that want their guns back, from the system that has failed them.  


dave,

thanks for the reply.  i agree with you 100%.  gun ownership isn't something to be ashamed of....  nor should be avoid being open about it wondering if an organization we don't agree with may opt to "demonize" us for it...

right on brother!

2/28/2009 6:11:22 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:


again to 8mm,

sorry you're LE and you don't have a pistol as powerful as mine.  if you'd like i could loan it to you...

-michael



The fact that this is so shocking to me is because I never received an intelligence update that some thieves now have guns more powerful than mine.  If you could spare me an even more powerful handgun until this crisis calms down I would greatly appreciate it.  I saw a youtube video of some dude with a TC contender in 600 nitro; got one of those I could borrow?



yeah, i got that.  i can even rent a football helmet to minimize damage to your face during operation of said 600...  of course the media would be worried about the police employing the all new "TC assault weapon" i lent you...
2/28/2009 6:21:23 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
8mm:

I am with you on the peacfull means, but that said I honestly believe we are beyond that.  Our legislators don't give a damn what you call, email or write to them about, I don't think a march is going to do much good.  There is an agenda and thy seek to push it as far as they can.

Honestly, everybody is so ready to act, but the line in the sand seems to move farther back every day.  I hear this is the last straw, this is the last straw, no this is it. We are running out of sand  to be drawing lines in, pretty soon we will be drawing lines in the water that is about to consume us.

Septic:

Prepared to do?  That will run the gammet of emotions, with principle in second place.  I believe the vast majority of people with a shred of dignity are ready to act (but are not prepared in any manner to do so).  Unfortunatly the majority of the voting population don't posses much of it any more.  A man without pride, or dignity has nothing stand for.  

At what level am I prepared for?  
I have been cotemplating this quite seriosly for a while, maybe a few years now.  I have come to the conclusion, I as an individual am not "prepared", at least to my ideal of preparedness.

After reading this story lights out, I am under the beleif that this sort of crisis is what may just bring people back to reality.  Basicly restructure the way our communities cooperate, the way people treat each other, and reinstate a sense of worth to the mass population.

I don't know if this makes any sense, as it is late and I am somewhat and so if it doesn't I'll fix it or reword it today, or later, or tommorrow, whatever.


it is troubling isn't it?  i don't want to be a criminal, but i'm being constricted by government in such a fashion that i can barely do anything gun related without running the risk of breaking some kind of law.  this IS NOT the way things were supposed to go.  i'm ready to march, kick, scream whatever.  like you i'm unsure how things will go when we add a great deal of emotion, but i can't help it most of the time.  i'm passionate about this, so some emotion bleeds in.

i balance the loss of all my collection (or worse) against the rewards.  we live in a time where we have so very much that we all worry about keeping it first and the reasons why we have it second...  i look back at the selfless acts of our founding fathers and they may have been in a similar boat.  they came over, built up a country, accumulated some things, and the king sent somebody over the pond to take it from them...  the only real difference here is geography...  instead of messenger via pond, our own natives are putting their boots on our necks...  so do i close my eyes and go to sleep to the rhythm of lost rights while clutching a couple tattered pieces in my collection or stand up at the risk of losing them all and say NO?

if you can't use them, they ain't worth nothing...  i'm ready to tell them to fuck off....
2/28/2009 4:47:19 PM EDT
[#12]
Last night I was at a bar in downtown CR I happened to meet the guy who does the news postings for KCRG(dating a friend of mine) and discussed with him about the story this thread mentioned and how Gun owners were perceiving it. Long story short, he does not give 2 shits about how we feel and posted it as such because they were upset the coralville police withheld information for this long and they got ahold of a leak and reported on it as such. I tried to explain that how it was worded looked poorly on gun owners. I explained that the quote stating that the guns were more powerful than a police officers was a jab that was not needed and was used to sensationalize(sp) it. He pretty much went into a severe socialist rant about how only cops should own guns and that the government is here to protect us. I grabbed my drink and walked away before I wanted to prove to him the government was not going to protect him. I told my friend I will no longer be hanging out with her if she is with him (I only see her about 2 times a year anyway). She was understanding but was going to still date the asshat. To top it all off she was telling my all about her dad's ar15's and he just bought her a new 10/22. hmmmm women are weird.
2/28/2009 9:48:51 PM EDT
[#13]
Ask him where the line between a reporter and an oppinion column is (I can't tell if there is a difference any more).  Commie bastard, there are reasons the P.D. don't release info.
3/1/2009 12:10:50 PM EDT
[#14]
Stupid media sensationalized BS.

3/1/2009 4:12:12 PM EDT
[#15]
What an ass!  You should write a editoral piece and submit it to the paper or something with said shit heads name and comments!  That would get some shit stirred up!
3/1/2009 4:14:40 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
What an ass!  You should write a editoral piece and submit it to the paper or something with said shit heads name and comments!  That would get some shit stirred up!



+1  choose the biggest competitor to the paper he works for and turn in your op/ed...  they like using us like pawns, go ahead and see how he likes it...
3/2/2009 1:11:04 AM EDT
[#17]
Problem being that KCRG and the local paper are the same company.
3/7/2009 4:06:36 PM EDT
[#18]
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