Posted: 3/17/2015 9:13:19 PM EDT
| I sent in a RI-060 7 weeks ago to register the 8.5" barreled 300 Blackout that I built (Saginaw County) Can I expect to hear back from them? |
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Hopfullly its either a AR pistol or an ATF approved SBR. If not youll hear when they are knocking on your door. Otherwise if its just a AR pistol you wont hear back. You just keep your copy of the RI60. I would assume it is an AR pistol based on the RI-60. You will not hear anything. Your RI-60 disappears into a black hole. Maintain your copy of the RI-60 for 30 days after you sent in the police's copy. After 30 days, you may do whatever you wish with your RI-60. |
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The law states that for no more than $1.00 you can request a copy of the information entered from the local police/sheriff. You can do what is called a 'public query' for the information and you can actually do it from any police department. AFAIK the MSP is supposed to be keeping the records. There used to be a 'local agency copy' of the pistol sales record that was eliminated in PA 377.
In practice it is different. I had the same exact concern as you. My 'local' agency is the sheriff; when I tried to verify the entry was present they kind of stonewalled me. The clerk said they send the copy to the MSP and that's all they do and they can't access that information. I tried the PD where I work and they had no clue what I was talking about or what I was trying to do. I had called the state police's firearms division and verified I can go to ANY police department and do a public query but the hard part is getting them to understand what that is. Getting stopped and finding out your pistol isn't registered because the bureaucrats made an oopsie is no joke. |
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So that leaves me with the uncertainty of "What if it got lost in the mail", maybe I should have sent it registered to be certain that it was delivered. Do they notify you if there was a problem? Quoted:
So that leaves me with the uncertainty of "What if it got lost in the mail", maybe I should have sent it registered to be certain that it was delivered. Do they notify you if there was a problem? What type of problem are you talking about? If it doesn't meet the definition of a pistol (OAL too long, or something), if your CPL number doesn't match your name, if you don't have a background check number or CPL number listed, and other things like that, they will usually attempt to contact you. Key word being usually. The best solution is to double and triple check the forms before you send it in. I drive within half a mile of my police station on my way home from work, so I just drop mine off in person. They have a little lock box in the lobby that's open 24/7. Quoted:
Thread Hijack Who keeps and stores these records? Are they maintained at the local office or are they compiled in a central location? The Michigan State Police is responsible for storing them. I do not know if they maintain paper copies or not, but the local PDs are responsible for collecting the forms and sending them along to the MSP. Quoted:
The law states that for no more than $1.00 you can request a copy of the information entered from the local police/sheriff. You can do what is called a 'public query' for the information and you can actually do it from any police department. AFAIK the MSP is supposed to be keeping the records. There used to be a 'local agency copy' of the pistol sales record that was eliminated in PA 377. In practice it is different. I had the same exact concern as you. My 'local' agency is the sheriff; when I tried to verify the entry was present they kind of stonewalled me. The clerk said they send the copy to the MSP and that's all they do and they can't access that information. I tried the PD where I work and they had no clue what I was talking about or what I was trying to do. I had called the state police's firearms division and verified I can go to ANY police department and do a public query but the hard part is getting them to understand what that is. Getting stopped and finding out your pistol isn't registered because the bureaucrats made an oopsie is no joke. You should be able to visit your local PD and request a copy of the pistol registration information based on providing the serial number and your name. That should all be available through the law enforcement information network (LEIN). I highlighted the key parts of MCL 28.422 in the quote below. (5) If an individual purchases or otherwise acquires a pistol, the seller shall fill out the license forms describing the pistol, together with the date of sale or acquisition, and sign his or her name in ink indicating that the pistol was sold to or otherwise acquired by the purchaser. The purchaser shall also sign his or her name in ink indicating the purchase or other acquisition of the pistol from the seller. The seller may retain a copy of the license as a record of the transaction. The purchaser shall receive 2 copies of the license. The purchaser shall return 1 copy of the license to the licensing authority within 10 days after the date the pistol is purchased or acquired. The return of the copy to the licensing authority may be made in person or may be made by first-class mail or certified mail sent within the 10-day period to the proper address of the licensing authority. A purchaser who fails to comply with the requirements of this subsection is responsible for a state civil infraction and may be fined not more than $250.00. If a purchaser is found responsible for a state civil infraction under this subsection, the court shall notify the department of state police of that determination.
(6) Within 10 days after receiving the license copy returned under subsection (5), the licensing authority shall electronically enter the information into the pistol entry database as required by the department of state police if it has the ability to electronically enter that information. If the licensing authority does not have that ability, the licensing authority shall provide that information to the department of state police in a manner otherwise required by the department of state police. Any licensing authority that provided pistol descriptions to the department of state police under former section 9 of this act shall continue to provide pistol descriptions to the department of state police under this subsection. Within 48 hours after entering or otherwise providing the information on the license copy returned under subsection (5) to the department of state police, the licensing authority shall forward the copy of the license to the department of state police. The purchaser has the right to obtain a copy of the information placed in the pistol entry database under this subsection to verify the accuracy of that information. The licensing authority may charge a fee not to exceed $1.00 for the cost of providing the copy. The licensee may carry, use, possess, and transport the pistol for 30 days beginning on the date of purchase or acquisition only while he or she is in possession of his or her copy of the license. However, the person is not required to have the license in his or her possession while carrying, using, possessing, or transporting the pistol after this period. |