Posted: 4/13/2012 7:26:58 PM EDT
| Random question of the day: If you are a passenger in a traffic stop, are you required to notify the officer of your CPL? |
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Random question of the day: If you are a passenger in a traffic stop, are you required to notify the officer of your CPL? Why open yourself up to the potential grief? Even as a passenger I'd make sure the officer was informed of my carry status immediately, there's just not enough ambiguity in the law to make me care to be the test case... http://michigan.gov/msp/1,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654-10941––,00.html An individual licensed to carry a concealed pistol who is stopped by a police officer (traffic stop or otherwise) while in possession of a pistol shall immediately disclose to the police officer that he or she is carrying a concealed pistol either on their person or in their motor vehicle.
Edit: Link appears dead right now, I guess Michigan.gov forgot to pay their bill... |
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Please keep in mind recent case law suggests two things regarding the immediate disclosure requirement:
1. Disclosure must be verbally communicated. Meaning something along the lines of, "Officer, I have a concealed pistol license and I am currently carrying." Just handing the officer your CPL card does NOT satisfy disclosure... all that does disclosees is that you have a license to carry, not that you are carrying. 2. Immediate means right f****ing now... a court concluded waiting 45 seconds to verbally notify after the officer makes contact was not immediate enough. Just my $.02 that can make your life easier. |
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Quoted: Disclose immediately and you will make the cop happier and make them feel safer. When that happens, you (the driver) are less likely to get hasseled about whatever you did to get pulled over. Jake This. YMMV but I have gotten out of a ticket once and got a 1/2 mile push one time when I ran my car out of gas. Can't say it was because of having a CPL and notifying but it seems to "disarm" them a little, letting them know you're a good guy. Both times MSP. DP
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Random question of the day: If you are a passenger in a traffic stop, are you required to notify the officer of your CPL? Why open yourself up to the potential grief? Even as a passenger I'd make sure the officer was informed of my carry status immediately, there's just not enough ambiguity in the law to make me care to be the test case... http://michigan.gov/msp/1,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654-10941––,00.html An individual licensed to carry a concealed pistol who is stopped by a police officer (traffic stop or otherwise) while in possession of a pistol shall immediately disclose to the police officer that he or she is carrying a concealed pistol either on their person or in their motor vehicle.
Edit: Link appears dead right now, I guess Michigan.gov forgot to pay their bill... Here's a cool real life scenario bro that happened the other day ... There was a one car wreck where the lady veered off the highway went airborne then rolled end over end into a tree. I was just a couple vehicles behind her, had my ccw in the car, pulled over just past her wreck and stopped, locked the doors and went to help and call 911. She was stunned but responsive and apparently ok. Deputy showed up and asked the four of us who stopped to help if we saw the wreck happen. Was I "stopped" in this instance? Car was 50 feet away and locked with my CCW inside. Did I have a duty to disclose? |
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Quoted: Was I "stopped" in this instance? Car was 50 feet away and locked with my CCW inside. Did I have a duty to disclose? Wow, that is a stickey wicket. If it were me, if it came down to him start asking names, I would then disclose. If he just walks up and starts talking to a group of people and especially it being in the car I would hesitate to blurt it out the second he shows up. But I am sure you wouldn't be wrong in doing that. |
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Random question of the day: If you are a passenger in a traffic stop, are you required to notify the officer of your CPL? Notify the officer of your CPL or that you are in fact with a gun "on your person? I "car pool" to work. It was my week to ride and was in another's vehicle when it was pulled over for speeding. I wasn't carrying since our work prohibits firearms on their property. I don't think in this situation I need to declare I have a CPL. |