Posted: 7/15/2009 9:42:00 AM EDT
| A friend of mine applied for his ccw and after 6 months he got his denail letter. In the letter they listed a aggravated domistic viol charge from 2003. charges were dropped after attending a class on domestic violence. should he appeal the decision to the licensing board? |
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A friend of mine applied for his ccw and after 6 months he got his denail letter. In the letter they listed a aggravated domistic viol charge from 2003. charges were dropped after attending a class on domestic violence. should he appeal the decision to the licensing board? He could, but I doubt it would change anything. In my opinion, if he has that kind of charge, I don't believe he should be carrying a firearm anyways, just my $.02. |
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just from my experience of 14 years and counting in LE, you dont take the class to get the charges dropped. The class is usually part of some plea bargin or Cobbs aggrement. he may have had a suspended or defered sentence. It would still show on his CCH as such. Now if the victim never showed up in court it would have been dismissed outright, but even that will show on your CCH, but just with a disposition of being Dismissed.
it wouldnt hurt to appeal but just tell him not to get his hopes up. DV is one of those offenses in Mich that will get your guns taken even at the time of arrest. J- |
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So just because he was charged you feel he's guilty? The charges were dropped as in he was not convicted. What if she lied? Re-read the post. He is saying the charges were dropped because the guy attended a class, thats a plea bargin. Usually happens when your guilty and want to get out with a lesser sentence. |
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So just because he was charged you feel he's guilty? The charges were dropped as in he was not convicted. What if she lied? If she lied, he should've fought it "tooth & nail". But he admitted guilt by going to the class, or was just too fucking lazy to stand up for himself. If he was too lazy to stand up for himself then, he should just be like all the other sheeple & have someone else fight his battles for him in the future. Therefor, no need for a CCW... His fuck up, not ours. He should've been thinking long term & not taking the easy way out back then. Doesn't deserve a CCW if he even let himself get into a DV situation in the first place. Ever hear the expression "Just walk away"?? Pathfinder |
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So just because he was charged you feel he's guilty? The charges were dropped as in he was not convicted. What if she lied? If she lied, he should've fought it "tooth & nail". But he admitted guilt by going to the class, or was just too fucking lazy to stand up for himself. If he was too lazy to stand up for himself then, he should just be like all the other sheeple & have someone else fight his battles for him in the future. Therefor, no need for a CCW... His fuck up, not ours. He should've been thinking long term & not taking the easy way out back then. Doesn't deserve a CCW if he even let himself get into a DV situation in the first place. Ever hear the expression "Just walk away"?? Pathfinder Some times thats much harder to actually do then say..... Don't rag on the guy for something you all know little about. Appeal it, see what happens. We all make mistakes in our lives, some worse then others but that doesn't always mean we should pay for them for the rest of our lives. edit for bad spelling. |
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So just because he was charged you feel he's guilty? The charges were dropped as in he was not convicted. What if she lied? +1... a lot of situations like that can stem from false accusations, or inflated charges... innocent until proven guilty, I always thought... But if he had to attend a domestic violence class, obviously the charge wasn't dropped... if a charge is dropped, you don't typically have to serve any punishment....... |
| Yes I am asking for a friend, I'v had my ccw for many years. The whole situtation comes from a "pissing contest" so to speak in a divorce. The guy in question is a great guy that I would trust with my life. In a round about way I kinda do. And before anyone jumps on my ass, I do not approve of domestic violence. I know that theres alot of poeple on this forum that know the laws alot better than I do and was just looking for some advice to pass on to try to help him out if I could. |
Sorry.... had to do it. Appeal it and and get a lawyer. Just because you were charged or even had a sentence dismissed does not bar you from getting your cpl. If it is a defered sentence, than the charges will still be on your record and you probably can't even own a firearm to begin with. If it was dismissed... not only appeal it, but sue the county for screwing with him. The only way some of these ass hats learn is to have them lose money for their counties due to their stupidity... losing votes hurt. Some of you guys really surprise me. Do you understand what can sometimes be construed as a DV charge? You're trying to leave your house and the bitch keeps standing in front of you and wont let you leave... you put your hands on her to move her out the way. Guess what that's a DV charge. DV laws/charges are BS a lot of the time. Unless we are talking about a guy who came home from work and beat his wife/kids/dog/etc, he complied with the court and the charges were dismissed... Works for me. Besides, even Connery knows, sometimes a bitch needs a good slap to knock her shit off. 
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