Posted: 1/19/2007 9:30:10 PM EDT
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I have taken my cpl class, but i'm not 21 yet so i cant turn in my certificate. I wasn't informed in my class, but from what i gather you dont need a purchase permit to buy a handgun if you have a CPL? thanks for the help. Like i said, i dont have my CPL yet, but i'm speaking in terms of when i do. Thanks for the help. -Jarard |
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To Trebor: My instructor told us that several applications had been denied to applicants with sertificates dated over 6 month due to the fact that right on the application there is a statement (in renewal section) that the pistol firing training must take place immediately within 6 month prior to application date. One could argue that this applicable to renewal only, but as you said 
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That language is based on: ____ (6) The educational requirements under section 5b(7)(c) for an applicant who is applying for a renewal of a license under this act are waived except that the applicant shall certify that he or she has completed at least 3 hours' review of the training described under section 5b(7)(c) and has had at least 1 hour of firing range time in the 6 months immediately preceding the subsequent application. PA 92 ____ It applies to renewals only, and has no bearing on original applications. As most of us are aware, what the written law says, and what the police and government regulators do are often two different things. From MCRGO FAQs: _____ Q: My county clerk won’t accept my NRA Personal Protection in the Home Course certificate because it was issued more than 1 year ago. Is she correct? A: No, NRA certificates do not expire or go “stale.” The NRA alone decides how long their certificates are valid, not county gun boards. According to the law, it is NOT the responsibility of the county gun board to review or approve pistol safety training programs. The statute only states that the applicant must present a certificate signed by a certified firearms instructor with a statement that the course complies with the requirements of the law and that the individual successfully completed the course. If the validity of a certificate comes into question, the board may wish to confirm the firearm instructor’s certification with the organization that provided certification. In most cases, that is the NRA. It is a 4-year felony to issue a bogus certificate. That is intended to keep instructors honest. There is similar situation where I have seen clerks attempt to reject certificates because they do not contain the language set forth in MCL §28.425j. Pursuant to 2004 PA 254, after October 1, 2004, the pistol safety training certificate must read “This course complies with section 5j of 1927 PA 372.” Of course, if your certificate was issued before that date, it probably contains something similar but not exact. The ones I issued before October 1, 2004 state, “This course meets the requirements of 1927 PA 372 as amended by 2000 PA 381 5j and 2002 PA 719.” If you are in this situation you have two choices, 1) you can point out to the clerk that the new “magic” language of MCL §28.425j only applies to pistol safety training certificates issued after October 1, 2004, or 2) you can have the instructor that issued the certificate either add the “magic” language for you or give you permission to add it yourself. _____ As long as individual gun owners act alone, they are at the mercy of these bureaucrats, who can continue to do as they please. They know that none of us has the money or political influence to make them obey the law. The surprising part is that, at state level politics, if a few people get together in an interest group, they can be quite effective at getting heard and listened to by elected representatives. By "a few", I mean as little as a few dozen. I witnessed this first hand in the late 90s. Appointees, administrators, etc., will still do what they want to, but when they get a phone call from somebody up the food chain (who doesn't really care, but is having his tail twisted, and just wants the problem to go away), they have to sit up and take notice. At some point, they may have to do what the legislature specified, or sacrifice their job prospects. |