Posted: 11/27/2006 6:06:09 AM EDT
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I am going on a trip and want to bring my pistol with me. I do not have a CCW. What are the laws and regulations about transporting a pistol in a backpack? Thanks. |
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If you want an intelligent response to your post, you need to provide a bit more information than that. he Check www.packing.org for information on CCW generally; http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654---,00.html for Mich. State statutes. and http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/ for further information. Otherwise, get a CCW. |
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OK Real short answer without having all the details... No, you cant carry a gun in your back pack if you do not have a CCW when not on your private property. You will get in a LOT of trouble if you are carrying like this without a CCW In a backpack is concealed... If you want to get a bit of a better answer you need to tell us where you are going, where you are going to be carrying it etc etc BUT as I said it doesnt sound like you can do what you want unless you get a CCW. |
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To carry a pistol in a backpack... IIRC you can carry it if the pistol is in a LOCKED CASE. Ammo cannot be in the locked case. I can't remember if the ammo has to be in a seperate locked case... maybe just a seperate compartment. Check out packing.org or call the Michigan State Police and attempt to find someone who actually knows the laws. Or call a lawyer who specializes in gun law. Good luck. |
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There is a pretty handy website that helps dig out Michigan firearms laws right here: LCAV Regardless of the motivation of the people who put it up, there's no reason not to make full use of it. |
I don't think locked case is part of the requirement. The word locked is used in the law but it refers to the locked trunk of a vehicle. If it's not a trunk, locked doesn't apply. Sometimes there is reference to a locked compartment - but I think that's part of the CHL law and how to transport your gun if your BAC is .o2 or higher. Check out http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654---,00.html for 241 pages of firearm laws updated May 2006. |
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When you get a hotel room - you have the same rights in it as you would your permanent residence. If you are doing an overnight trip - you are probably safe transporting it unloaded, in a case designed for a firearm and the ammo some place other than in the case with the firearm. More details are needed to give you a better answer. So far it’s been both yes and no. |
IIRC from my CPL class, if your vehicle does not have a trunk, to transport a firearm in your vehicle without a CPL, the case should be locked instead. Otherwise you are techinically carrying concealed. Or if you have a rifle that is too large to fit in your trunk, then you should lock the case and place it in the back seat. If I were in your situation, and I were wanting to bring a pistol around in a backpack to anywhere but directly to a hotel, definitely lock the case and put the ammo in a seperate area in the backpack. IE if you decide you want to bring said backpack into a store, lock the case. Otherwise you are carrying a concealed firearm even if it isn't loaded. It would be exactly the same if you were to carry an unloaded firearm in a holster. Hence, the lock on the case. |
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Sorry, wasnt following the thread. It would be in a locked box unloaded with a trigger guard in a backpack. Transported in the trunk of a car. I was just curious if you needed to have the pistol carrying case exposed or if it would be fine to have it inside a backpack, and also curious if it would be considered concealed while wearing said backpack in and out of hotels even though it is locked in a carrying case inside the pack. |
When transporting in trunk of a vehicle, to the range or to and from your residence, it doesn't need to be locked up. Being inside a trunk considers it "locked." When carrying the backpack into a hotel, I believe it is considered going "to and from your place of residence" so again, you wouldn't need to have it locked. The only reason you would need to lock it up is if you were wearing the backpack and were walking around doing something other than going from your vehicle to a gun range, place of residence, etc. I am not a lawyer, please don't take my word on this. Just quoting from the lawyer that taught my CPL course. |