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Posted: 1/7/2006 6:52:41 PM EDT
I'm planning on submitting a form 1 to my CLEO probable next week. Do you think it's too early to do this?
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 7:20:31 AM EDT
Ya I dough they even know anything about what is coming yet. Don't make yourself stand out being the first.

Just a thought
SM
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 8:26:55 AM EDT
Huh?
First or last you will have the full attention of your local CLEO.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 1:29:15 PM EDT
HAHAHAHAHAHA - Well since my picture was on the front page of the Macomb Daily holding my S&W 76 mg and I plan on getting my cleo signature and prints for my pre1986 PS MAC 10, I expect I will have their attention and I expect them to do their job the same as if the mg I was trying to obtain was a C&R mg.

I expect them to run me through their LEIN system checking to make sure my background is clear and then print my FBI blue lines and then have the Sheriffs delegate, the Undersheriff who I expect is the Sheriffs delegate sign, title and date both copies of my form 4.

I will be among the first - TOMORROW!

Tomorrow I go to see the Macomb County Sheriffs Department.

I expect to send my paperwork in to NFA BATFE either tomorrow or Tuesday!
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 2:56:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BustOff:
HAHAHAHAHAHA - Well since my picture was on the front page of the Macomb Daily holding my S&W 76 mg and I plan on getting my cleo signature and prints for my pre1986 PS MAC 10, I expect I will have their attention and I expect them to do their job the same as if the mg I was trying to obtain was a C&R mg.

I expect them to run me through their LEIN system checking to make sure my background is clear and then print my FBI blue lines and then have the Sheriffs delegate, the Undersheriff who I expect is the Sheriffs delegate sign, title and date both copies of my form 4.

I will be among the first - TOMORROW!

Tomorrow I go to see the Macomb County Sheriffs Department.

I expect to send my paperwork in to NFA BATFE either tomorrow or Tuesday!



Cool. I've met you before at the pit. I saw your 76 and didn't even recognize it as one. That is a sweet model 76 you have. I am jealous!! Thank you for all of your help!! You are the man!! I think I may have to send Mr. Cox a thank you letter also.

Kris
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 2:56:46 PM EDT
Also, what is a form 1? I thought all NFA transfers to an individual were on a form 4.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 3:05:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:
Also, what is a form 1? I thought all NFA transfers to an individual were on a form 4.



Form 1 is an application to make a new NFA item as an individual. In MI it would be used for making a new silencer or AOW yourself. You can also use a Form 1 to make a SBR but they aren't allowed in MI.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 4:10:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bump0x:

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:
Also, what is a form 1? I thought all NFA transfers to an individual were on a form 4.



Form 1 is an application to make a new NFA item as an individual. In MI it would be used for making a new silencer or AOW yourself. You can also use a Form 1 to make a SBR but they aren't allowed in MI.



What Bump said but also add that you CANNOT manufacture any new Machine Guns....just to be clear.
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 6:34:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gordie48001:

Originally Posted By bump0x:

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:
Also, what is a form 1? I thought all NFA transfers to an individual were on a form 4.



Form 1 is an application to make a new NFA item as an individual. In MI it would be used for making a new silencer or AOW yourself. You can also use a Form 1 to make a SBR but they aren't allowed in MI.



What Bump said but also add that you CANNOT manufacture any new Machine Guns....just to be clear.



Well, lets hope Samuel Alito can help fix that.


So, an LLC can do the same as an inc. can when it comes to MG's? What is the process for buying as an inc. ?
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 2:42:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 3:10:53 PM EDT by RodMI]
What are some cool AOW toys? What about DD's I would love to do a 50cal build.



Any Other Weapon (AOW) (Defined NFA title 26).

"Any other weapon. -- The term "any other weapon" means any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition."

Link Posted: 1/9/2006 11:32:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RodMI:
What are some cool AOW toys? What about DD's I would love to do a 50cal build.



Any Other Weapon (AOW) (Defined NFA title 26).

"Any other weapon. -- The term "any other weapon" means any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition."




A .50BMG is not considered a DD. The Street Sweeper and USAS 12 are both DD's An M203 40mm grenade launcher is a DD. As for AOW's a Serbu super shorty is a AOW. That could be fun.

Kris
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 1:54:02 PM EDT
Sow I take it .50BMG's are still of are toy list then? I've seen a C&R .50 cal for sale about 6 months ago.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 3:36:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RodMI:
Sow I take it .50BMG's are still of are toy list then? I've seen a C&R .50 cal for sale about 6 months ago.



.50bmg was and still is allowed in MI. Nothing special about it in terms of the law here.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 4:39:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bump0x:

Originally Posted By RodMI:
Sow I take it .50BMG's are still of are toy list then? I've seen a C&R .50 cal for sale about 6 months ago.



.50bmg was and still is allowed in MI. Nothing special about it in terms of the law here.



Hey Bump. Who is that s pic of in your sig? I just noticed "topknot" has a pic of the same person.

Kris
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 5:30:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 5:30:29 PM EDT by bump0x]

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:

Originally Posted By bump0x:

Originally Posted By RodMI:
Sow I take it .50BMG's are still of are toy list then? I've seen a C&R .50 cal for sale about 6 months ago.



.50bmg was and still is allowed in MI. Nothing special about it in terms of the law here.



Hey Bump. Who is that s pic of in your sig? I just noticed "topknot" has a pic of the same person.

Kris



Its a pic of Al Swearengen from the HBO series Deadwood.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 5:33:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bump0x:

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:

Originally Posted By bump0x:

Originally Posted By RodMI:
Sow I take it .50BMG's are still of are toy list then? I've seen a C&R .50 cal for sale about 6 months ago.



.50bmg was and still is allowed in MI. Nothing special about it in terms of the law here.



Hey Bump. Who is that s pic of in your sig? I just noticed "topknot" has a pic of the same person.

Kris



Its a pic of Al Swearengen from the HBO series Deadwood.



Ah. OK. I've never seen it. That would be why I didn't recognize him.
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