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7/8/2008 11:25:02 AM EDT
hey guys, ive been wanting to get my concealed for a while now but just have not had the time to find a class to take. i happen to be in bozeman and ran across a flyer that mentioned a 8 hour weekend course offered locally.

i was wondering if anyone has seen/heard of  this in the billings area? i need to take it as well as the wife.

thanks
7/8/2008 12:26:28 PM EDT
[#1]
There is a guy who was doing this in the billings area.  You might want to contact Daddy O's gun shop because I seem to remember a flyer at there store.
7/8/2008 3:42:08 PM EDT
[#2]
will do, thanks!
7/8/2008 5:28:47 PM EDT
[#3]
You could also look up Pat Goodale at http://www.pgpft.com/.  He teaches in the Billings area, and is darn good.  I have taken some classes from him when he is in Great Falls.

-Corn
7/8/2008 6:47:19 PM EDT
[#4]
dave down at beartooth mentioned him. i think he is having a pistol class this fall
7/8/2008 9:20:41 PM EDT
[#5]
If you need help, IM me and I'll be sure to get you connected one way or the other.

It's not difficult to get the required minimum to apply for CCW as MT YCSD accepts numerous avenues for competency.  Here's a few examples:

1) Copy of your DD214. (If you're mil)
2) Copy of hunter's ed. (Not sure if MT requires this to be from the state of MT or if MT is required to accept the same from any other state...)
3) Any other class which meets the NRA standards for basic firearm safety.

I've heard Pat Goodale is good but his classes are pricey & fill quickly IIRC.

Personally, if the hunter's ed or .mil didn't apply to me, I'd hit the NRA up to see who handles basic instructions courses locally.  I suspect it would be quick, easy and more of a one-on-one to get the course done rather than a classroom setting or a HSLD operator's course.

I'm not certain if Sheriff Maxwell allows it but, per MT law IIRC- you can also informally demonstrate to the Sheriff that you can competently handle a firearm which would fulfill the "competency" requirement.

EDIT: The above "per MT law" is sticken as I see no competency requirement per the Montana Code Annotated. (MCA)  I can only assume that this is a requirement by the Sheriff's office.

Aside from Packing.org, the best website for CCW info in MT is the Attorney General's web page at: www.doj.mt.gov/enforcement/criminaljustice/concealedweapons.asp

HTH

Sly
7/9/2008 5:10:32 PM EDT
[#6]
i read the info on that website and also looked at the PDF sample application form. i did not see a mention of anything relating to a person having to take a class. did i read that correctly? i can fill out the form from the local sheriffs office and apply right now?

im sure it would look better if i had a certificate from one of those classes...
7/9/2008 8:07:55 PM EDT
[#7]

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i read the info on that website and also looked at the PDF sample application form. i did not see a mention of anything relating to a person having to take a class. did i read that correctly? i can fill out the form from the local sheriffs office and apply right now?

im sure it would look better if i had a certificate from one of those classes...


No, you'll need to show proof of some sort of firearms training.  AFAIK, it's not the law but- that's what the Sheriff's Dept, if not Chuck Maxwell himself requires to sign off.

If you're not familiar, here's what you'll need to do:

1) Pick up your application from the Sheriff's Dept.  That'll be at the front window when you go into the dept's front door.

2)  Fill in the information requested on the form.  You'll need to be able to list your places of employment and residency for the last 5 years. (At least IIRC, you may need to go even further back than 5 years)

3) You'll need the names and contact information for 3 character witnesses that have known you for at least five years. These can not be current or former employers nor family members.

4) At least in Yellowstone County, you'll need to show proof of competency.  In Y'stone, hunter's ed counts.  I know other counties, such as Park county- won't accept hunter's ed; instead requiring an NRA certified safety course.  AFAIK, this is just the Sheriff or PD's requirement...  I guess if it were up to me to be the one signing off for such a thing, I'd want to CYA so I can't say I object much w/ this requirement.

5)  Answer the question of "Your Reason For Applying".  Which, since MT is a "Shall Issue" state- you aren't required to have a reason but- I'd fill in something logical here.

6) Follow the directions to set up an appointment w/ the Detective's division for your fingerprint & photo session. They only do this on particular days of the week so it may be a few weeks for you to get scheduled depending on the work load.

7) Pay the $55 paperwork fee @ the time of the appointment w/ the detectives division.  (IIRC, they require exact cash amount)

8) Wait...  By law the Sheriff must sign off w/in 60 days of you application as long as there is no legitimate reason for denial. (Such as a criminal record)

Take care.

Sly
7/12/2008 8:28:35 PM EDT
[#8]
excellent thank you. looks like i need to find a class!