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7/28/2006 7:07:25 AM EDT
Peta - spoilsport!
[BTW - does any picture of any female count as BOTD now? I didn't see anything in there which could be in the least bit offensive - unless you are offended by guns]

Anyway - the post I was going to make:

I know where this is, but who is shooting?



ETA: Hmm there is a female in there, and its not locked yet! ... I wonder how long it will take?
7/28/2006 8:23:23 AM EDT
[#1]
Since its cool right now, I am going to head off up there and throw a few rounds downrange.

BTW, for those that don't know where the above photo was taken, it on the 25/50/100yd range at the Chelalem Sportsman Club range in Dundee.
7/28/2006 9:02:31 AM EDT
[#2]
That's glocklady........with Tangofoxtrots rifle.

And yes, the mod has gone wild with power, and is quick to blaim any non popular event on "staff".
7/28/2006 9:12:51 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
That's glocklady........

And yes, the mod has gone wild with power, and is quick to blaim any non popular event on "staff".


And yet another un-backed claim.

Unless you've got proof your just spouting off at the mouth again.  Unless you know what the hell is going on, don't make bogus remarks.

7/28/2006 9:17:11 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

Unless you've got proof your just spouting off at the mouth again.  Unless you know what the hell is going on, don't make bogus remarks.



Please post a link to this new ruling on posting pictures containing females.  I would think arfcom wouldn't want to be known as a sexist website but we lowey folk can't have acsess to your mod only forums.
7/28/2006 9:25:06 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Unless you've got proof your just spouting off at the mouth again.  Unless you know what the hell is going on, don't make bogus remarks.



Please post a link to this new ruling on posting pictures containing females.  I would think arfcom wouldn't want to be known as a sexist website but we lowey folk can't have acsess to your mod only forums.


It's tacked at the top of GD, but I'll cut and past a post from one of the mod forums, just to ease your mind



MrsGloftoe
Site Staff
As per Striker (link goes to archive) on October 22, 2005:

Due to the ongoing problems with pics of scantily-clad women being posted on the site we have decided to make a change. They will still be allowed, however, effective immediately they will be limited to the Team forum only.
Our mods and staff have simply had to spend too much time dealing with this issue, so this is necessary. We may review this and make further changes, but your cooperation is appreciated.
Any pics which are posted in GD are expected to be "G-rated" and NOT show such things as cleavage or excessively short skirts/shorts. Bikini pics may ONLY be posted in Team, and under the rules posted in the team forum.

At the time the present rules were put into place we said they would remain until they became troublesome. The constant pushing of limits has created an undue burden for our volunteer mods, and this is simply too much to ask of them. Again, we appreciate your cooperation.  




Quoted:

Originally Posted By :

Originally Posted By :
Also no links to sites with picturs of females on them either.





Nips,cleavage,or any other thing that would be considered BOTD I agree, but just to slap a general label of "female" on it, I think is incorrect.



I left thier names out on purpose.  I do not have to explain myself or what I am directed to do any further than I already have.  If you have a problem with it, or what I have done, there is a great number of staff on here you can IM to get your resolution.
7/28/2006 9:28:47 AM EDT
[#6]

Any pics which are posted in GD are expected to be "G-rated" and NOT show such things as cleavage or excessively short skirts/shorts. Bikini pics may ONLY be posted in Team, and under the rules posted in the team forum.


I saw nothing that wasn't G-rated.

So flip the coin and you back up your claim.
7/28/2006 9:32:40 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Any pics which are posted in GD are expected to be "G-rated" and NOT show such things as cleavage or excessively short skirts/shorts. Bikini pics may ONLY be posted in Team, and under the rules posted in the team forum.


I saw nothing that wasn't G-rated.

So flip the coin and you back up your claim.


READ ALL OF MY POST.

AND AGIAN, I DO NOT OR AM REQUIRED TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT GOES IN IN ANY OF THE MOD FORUMS, PERIOD.  IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, THEN AS I SUGGESTED, IM STAFF.
7/28/2006 9:35:52 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:


READ ALL OF MY POST.





Then stop editing it every 5 seconds.

Again, I see no pictures that were over a G-rating.  Please show the "bad" picture.

And you say to back up every little thing someone says you don't like but your basicly saying "I don't have to" when it pertanes to you?  WTF?
7/28/2006 9:44:41 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:


READ ALL OF MY POST.





Then stop editing it every 5 seconds.

Again, I see no pictures that were over a G-rating.  Please show the "bad" picture.

And you say to back up every little thing someone says you don't like but your basicly saying "I don't have to" when it pertanes to you?  WTF?


If you remember the rules of the mod forum from your stay there, what is discussed there stays there, period.  Hence the reason why I do not or will not explain it any further.  As I've said already, too many times, if you have a problem with it, then IM staff and you'll get the same response.

Your lack of doing that, or understanding of it just makes it that much clear, your problem is not the rule, but more the person enforcing it.

Now, if I made a claim about some industry partner sending me a threatening IM, I'd have a copy of it to back it up.  If I made a claim of other HTF members sending me IM's about the reason they were not in there was becasue of person XXX, then if I brought it up to you, I'd share it with you to back it up.  

Backing up claims is one thing, enforcing a rule or a suggestion by staff does not need to go any further than what has already been done.  If you have a problem with authority, then go to someone higher up and whine to them.

And, I will also add, if you read the last post in that thread, you will see that it will more than likely get un-locked as soon as this is cleared up, hence the reason why it's not trashed.

So, what is this about?  Me or the locking of the thread?  Seems pretty obvious to me
7/28/2006 9:51:28 AM EDT
[#10]
I just want YOU to play fair.  You still have not explained anything.  I'm trying to understand...I can't post any pictures of females on here?  I can't show a picture of my SO shooting?  Yea, that's a big problem, and if YOU as the MOD of this forum don't see this a problem then that in it's self is a problem.  You should stand up for the Oregon board.

7/28/2006 9:53:39 AM EDT
[#11]
Knock it off you two!

If you guys would just ignore eachother you would be great friends!
7/28/2006 9:55:40 AM EDT
[#12]
I'm just pissed he didn't stand up to his word and give me that reach around.  Totally tricked me.
7/28/2006 9:57:53 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I'm just pissed he didn't stand up to his word and give me that reach around.  Totally tricked me.


Damm him!

I'll get the rope... You find a tree!
7/28/2006 10:00:49 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I just want YOU to play fair.  You still have not explained anything.  I'm trying to understand...I can't post any pictures of females on here?  I can't show a picture of my SO shooting?  Yea, that's a big problem, and if YOU as the MOD of this forum don't see this a problem then that in it's self is a problem.  You should stand up for the Oregon board.



Was phil's post locked?  NO.  If you cannot see the difference between your so shooting and some other female who is considered BOTD then that is the problem. You can hate the messege, but to hate the messenger is just pathetic.

And if you read the goddamn quote I put in my post from the mod forum you'll see that I was sticking up for people.

Your comment about the oregon board is bunk.  When have I not stuck up for anyone in here that you didnt' know of?  Even you, I've stuck up for you before.  Why? Now I really wonder.

If you've got a fucking problem, tell staff.
7/28/2006 10:04:24 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Even you, I've stuck up for you before.  Why? Now I really wonder.





Ditto


If you've got a fucking problem, tell staff


You locked the thread, not staff.  And you are the appropriate avenue to go through to voicing the members feelings to the staff.



You can hate the messege, but to hate the messenger is just pathetic.


I wonder how many people have died because of that attidtude...."I'm just doing my job."  "I don't make the law, just enforce it." .....etc etc etc
7/28/2006 10:07:50 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Even you, I've stuck up for you before.  Why? Now I really wonder.




Ditto

If you've got a fucking problem, tell staff


You locked the thread, not staff.  And you are the appropriate avenue to go through to voicing the members feelings to the staff.



Are you the spokesman for the whole board now?  You seem to be the only one whining about it, still.  I've explained things more than I was required to.  If that's not good enough for you, then go somewhere else to whine.

But you wont.

All the more reason that it's so fucking transparent that your problem lies with me and not with what was done.

7/28/2006 10:09:05 AM EDT
[#17]
Will you just give him his reach around already!!
7/28/2006 10:11:32 AM EDT
[#18]

So I'm whinning if I have a problem with what you do?  Sorry master.


You seem to be the only one whining about it, still.
 

Phillp did just what, 50 minutes ago.....damn, that's old news now.

7/28/2006 10:14:32 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
So I'm whinning if I have a problem with what you do?  Sorry master.


You seem to be the only one whining about it, still.
 

Phillp did just what, 50 minutes ago.....damn, that's old news now.



I'm not gonna continue in this baiting scheme your playing here.

Phil did complain, almost an hour ago.  Has he since?  NO.  
Am I required to change what staff has directed the mods to do becuase of a few people whining?  NO.
If you truly have a problem with what was done, it should become obvious by now, to you that your not gonna get any resolution here.  So, once agian, my suggestion is to get ahold of a member of staff.
7/28/2006 10:14:49 AM EDT
[#20]
:popcorn

Peta I still love ya man!!
7/28/2006 10:20:47 AM EDT
[#21]


If you truly have a problem with what was done, it should become obvious by now, to you that your not gonna get any resolution here.  So, once agian, my suggestion is to get ahold of a member of staff.



WTF, something I agree with you on.
7/28/2006 10:21:54 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

If you truly have a problem with what was done, it should become obvious by now, to you that your not gonna get any resolution here.  So, once agian, my suggestion is to get ahold of a member of staff.



WTF, something I agree with you on.


Its a start
7/28/2006 10:25:37 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

If you truly have a problem with what was done, it should become obvious by now, to you that your not gonna get any resolution here.  So, once agian, my suggestion is to get ahold of a member of staff.



WTF, something I agree with you on.


Holy shit!  It finally sunk in!  

Good for you!

<claps>

Now run along and tell staph how the OR Mod was so wrong, please!  So this can finally be over with.
7/28/2006 10:27:06 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:I'm not gonna continue in this baiting scheme your playing here.




Quoted:
Now run along and tell staph how the OR Mod was so wrong, please!  So this can finally be over with.




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7/28/2006 10:36:31 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:I'm not gonna continue in this baiting scheme your playing here.




Quoted:
Now run along and tell staph how the OR Mod was so wrong, please!  So this can finally be over with.




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Wow!  Pictures!

What's it gonna be?

Are you done with this or are you gonna get another opinion?
7/28/2006 10:44:01 AM EDT
[#26]
7/28/2006 11:53:14 AM EDT
[#27]
Oh man.... don't make this into another fork thread...
7/28/2006 12:00:48 PM EDT
[#28]
Next time they update the site software, I am going to put in a request that people should be able to lock their own threads!

What is up with people today???

Cape: I understand why you think NoAim's position is so wrong -- but so is the level of personal attack you used. Attack his ideas by all means, shoot them down in flames, but he is entitled to his opinion and we should NOT be attacking each other -- there are enough people out there ready to do that.

NoAim: Your language was more moderate, but what was behind it wasn't. Don't rise to the bait so easily.

Peta: I don't think there is a single person on this group that thinks your lock was really appropriate (I'm talking about the 556 post lock -- the other was -- IMHO). I think the only thing wrong with the post was including BOTD in the subject line. It got people looking for what was not there. We all know what the BOTD material is, and this just wasn't it.

WS4LIF: If you really need to argue with Peta about the way he moderates the group, wouldn't it be better done off-line? At least initially. I will give you that you probably have a much better insight into the politics of this site and how moderation works, but you probably also understand that you just can't have people questioning your every move. In this case, I tend to agree with you -- but either make one or two comments and leave it, or move it up the chain -- having a public row with Peta is not really helpful.

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I just spent a pleasant hour plinking at the CVSC range - had it all to myself. Came home all mellow and relaxed, took one look at this, and feel the need to go burn a couple of thousand rounds ... and I can't afford to!

Be nice guys!!
7/28/2006 12:08:51 PM EDT
[#29]
I HATE YOU GUYS!
7/28/2006 12:09:41 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
I HATE YOU GUYS!


Thats ok - we all hate you too
7/28/2006 12:49:41 PM EDT
[#31]
It's been explained, no more good can or will come from this post IMHO.