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7/21/2014 10:08:24 AM EDT
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7/21/2014 10:41:02 AM EDT
[#1]
So perdue is either pro NRA or not dumb....

So what is the general consensus on perdue and the other guy

One is backed by Eric Erickson and the other by Herman Cain. Both day the exact same thing....
7/21/2014 1:44:33 PM EDT
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Its exactly voting for the lesser of two evils in this case. The big problem is which is which. IMO Kingston is a real tax and spender. He voted to raise his own pay at every opportunity. He is big on adding pork and doing what special interest or big business needs whether its good for the people or not. On the plus side, he is A+ across the board on firearms and the Second Amendment.

Perdue says he is a real conservative but he will not really commit about guns. He says he is a Second Amendment defender and enforcement of current laws not stricter new laws is the way to go. But to me it seems he will not come out and blame the root causes, violent video games, broken homes, and not tracking and treating the mentally ill. But he is for lowering taxes and ending wasteful programs.

I like Kingston's Gun record and that makes him a Republican, but everything else points to Spend and Tax liberal IE RINO!

Guess Perdue might be the lesser of two evils due to him really being Conservative.

Big question is which one will be able to beat Nunn as in the end we really need that.
7/21/2014 1:58:48 PM EDT
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Its exactly voting for the lesser of two evils in this case. The big problem is which is which. IMO Kingston is a real tax and spender. He voted to raise his own pay at every opportunity. He is big on adding pork and doing what special interest or big business needs whether its good for the people or not. On the plus side, he is A+ across the board on firearms and the Second Amendment.

Perdue says he is a real conservative but he will not really commit about guns. He says he is a Second Amendment defender and enforcement of current laws not stricter new laws is the way to go. But to me it seems he will not come out and blame the root causes, violent video games, broken homes, and not tracking and treating the mentally ill. But he is for lowering taxes and ending wasteful programs.

I like Kingston's Gun record and that makes him a Republican, but everything else points to Spend and Tax liberal IE RINO!

Guess Perdue might be the lesser of two evils due to him really being Conservative.

Big question is which one will be able to beat Nunn as in the end we really need that.
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You lost me there. You're right about the other two, but people love to scapegoat video games for certain people's lack of being able to separate real life and fiction, and the sociopathic trait of not being able to feel empathy. The "mass shooter syndrome" is 100% a mental health deficiency.

I was just playing some Grand Theft Auto. Shit, now I feel the urge to go out and slaughter a bunch of people with a bulldozer, steal a tank, and then run around with a portable minigun. Maybe when they die, packs of money come out! [/sarcasm for the NSA dweeb reading this post. Don't no-knock me bro! ]

But back on track... I don't care who wins. No matter who gets in, it's going to be more of the same bullshit. We'll lose more rights, they'll gain more power and money in exchange for favors, and the country slides further into the toilet. We lose out jobs, the congresscritters get set up for life and buy yachts and gold for when the party starts.

I'm sick of this same shit over and over again every election cycle.
7/21/2014 2:15:31 PM EDT
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Anybody checked out a guy named Andrew Hunt? I've been checking up on this guy the past few weeks, and he really seems legit. Libertarian, campaigning against the big two and basically everything were concerned with and is pro gun. I would love to hear anybody else's opinion on the guy, think he's polling at 10% right now but could be a suprise if he drums up the support as fast as he has been. Not on the train yet or anything, why I'm asking around some more.
7/21/2014 6:21:32 PM EDT
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Anybody checked out a guy named Andrew Hunt? I've been checking up on this guy the past few weeks, and he really seems legit. Libertarian, campaigning against the big two and basically everything were concerned with and is pro gun. I would love to hear anybody else's opinion on the guy, think he's polling at 10% right now but could be a suprise if he drums up the support as fast as he has been. Not on the train yet or anything, why I'm asking around some more.
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The problem with the current system is that in a tight race, not a single Democrat EVER voted for a Libertarian, and the votes going to the Third Party Candidate end up actually being votes for the Democrat because they almost always cause the Conservative or Republican to lose by just a few votes. If Ross Perot had not dropped out then come back in, he might have been worth voting for. IMO he was better then either Bush or Clinton, but I voted for Bush because I knew any vote for Perot was going to help Clinton in the end. Ross Perot is the only reason Clinton was ever elected. Without Perot, Bush would have had a second term. It would not have been anything like it was during Reagan because Bush was already off the reservation during his first term, but it would have still been better then Clinton, Bin Laden would have been killed during one of the three times the CIA asked and 911 probably would never have happened.
7/21/2014 6:40:23 PM EDT
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The problem with the current system is that in a tight race, not a single Democrat EVER voted for a Libertarian, and the votes going to the Third Party Candidate end up actually being votes for the Democrat because they almost always cause the Conservative or Republican to lose by just a few votes. If Ross Perot had not dropped out then come back in, he might have been worth voting for. IMO he was better then either Bush or Clinton, but I voted for Bush because I knew any vote for Perot was going to help Clinton in the end. Ross Perot is the only reason Clinton was ever elected. Without Perot, Bush would have had a second term. It would not have been anything like it was during Reagan because Bush was already off the reservation during his first term, but it would have still been better then Clinton, Bin Laden would have been killed during one of the three times the CIA asked and 911 probably would never have happened.
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Anybody checked out a guy named Andrew Hunt? I've been checking up on this guy the past few weeks, and he really seems legit. Libertarian, campaigning against the big two and basically everything were concerned with and is pro gun. I would love to hear anybody else's opinion on the guy, think he's polling at 10% right now but could be a suprise if he drums up the support as fast as he has been. Not on the train yet or anything, why I'm asking around some more.


The problem with the current system is that in a tight race, not a single Democrat EVER voted for a Libertarian, and the votes going to the Third Party Candidate end up actually being votes for the Democrat because they almost always cause the Conservative or Republican to lose by just a few votes. If Ross Perot had not dropped out then come back in, he might have been worth voting for. IMO he was better then either Bush or Clinton, but I voted for Bush because I knew any vote for Perot was going to help Clinton in the end. Ross Perot is the only reason Clinton was ever elected. Without Perot, Bush would have had a second term. It would not have been anything like it was during Reagan because Bush was already off the reservation during his first term, but it would have still been better then Clinton, Bin Laden would have been killed during one of the three times the CIA asked and 911 probably would never have happened.


This mentality perpetuates the broken two-party system we have now. Andrew Hunt seems legit from everything I can see. Plus, he's an actual intelligent guy unlike most of the idiots running around in govt (none take the prize from Hank Johnson though!).

Repubs move farther right, Dems move farther left. Eventually, the gap becomes so wide there just has to be a candidate in the middle. Personally, I wish the GOP would stop being dumb enough to get caught by the Dems in "social" traps. They're distractions from the real problems of this country, but are things people can relate to. It's only digging them a deeper hole.

If more people voted how they expressed their opinions on here, we'd have a lot of Libertarian voters.
7/21/2014 6:51:30 PM EDT
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You lost me there. You're right about the other two, but people love to scapegoat video games for certain people's lack of being able to separate real life and fiction, and the sociopathic trait of not being able to feel empathy. The "mass shooter syndrome" is 100% a mental health deficiency.

I was just playing some Grand Theft Auto. Shit, now I feel the urge to go out and slaughter a bunch of people with a bulldozer, steal a tank, and then run around with a portable minigun. Maybe when they die, packs of money come out! [/sarcasm for the NSA dweeb reading this post. Don't no-knock me bro! ]

But back on track... I don't care who wins. No matter who gets in, it's going to be more of the same bullshit. We'll lose more rights, they'll gain more power and money in exchange for favors, and the country slides further into the toilet. We lose out jobs, the congresscritters get set up for life and buy yachts and gold for when the party starts.

I'm sick of this same shit over and over again every election cycle.
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Its exactly voting for the lesser of two evils in this case. The big problem is which is which. IMO Kingston is a real tax and spender. He voted to raise his own pay at every opportunity. He is big on adding pork and doing what special interest or big business needs whether its good for the people or not. On the plus side, he is A+ across the board on firearms and the Second Amendment.

Perdue says he is a real conservative but he will not really commit about guns. He says he is a Second Amendment defender and enforcement of current laws not stricter new laws is the way to go. But to me it seems he will not come out and blame the root causes, violent video games, broken homes, and not tracking and treating the mentally ill. But he is for lowering taxes and ending wasteful programs.

I like Kingston's Gun record and that makes him a Republican, but everything else points to Spend and Tax liberal IE RINO!

Guess Perdue might be the lesser of two evils due to him really being Conservative.

Big question is which one will be able to beat Nunn as in the end we really need that.



You lost me there. You're right about the other two, but people love to scapegoat video games for certain people's lack of being able to separate real life and fiction, and the sociopathic trait of not being able to feel empathy. The "mass shooter syndrome" is 100% a mental health deficiency.

I was just playing some Grand Theft Auto. Shit, now I feel the urge to go out and slaughter a bunch of people with a bulldozer, steal a tank, and then run around with a portable minigun. Maybe when they die, packs of money come out! [/sarcasm for the NSA dweeb reading this post. Don't no-knock me bro! ]

But back on track... I don't care who wins. No matter who gets in, it's going to be more of the same bullshit. We'll lose more rights, they'll gain more power and money in exchange for favors, and the country slides further into the toilet. We lose out jobs, the congresscritters get set up for life and buy yachts and gold for when the party starts.

I'm sick of this same shit over and over again every election cycle.


You are not following me, playing violent video games in and of itself does not 'create' a sociopath or psychopath. But the playing of violent video games by children to young and unsupervised that are not in a proper family setting which teaches the value of life, other rights to life as well as right and wrong does in fact (and is proven) to make it easier for somebody so inclined to place no value on another human's life making it then easier to pull the trigger (and they have already practiced it in the virtual world). Look at the mental monster at Sandy Hook, took his own life so he wouldn't loss his points from killing the children by being killed by police. Violent Video games can be part of the equation but not the root of the problem. I played Doom to unwind after work but I was an adult at the time. Underage and unsupervised children that have not been instilled with all the values of society and the value of human life have no business playing violent video games. Right and wrong can be taught to a point, what is going on in the middle east proves this. Wrong is being taught and instilled into children as young as 10 that they are supposed to kill Americans. A child's mind is a fragile yet powerful thing that can be molded toward good or evil depending on the teachers, family unit, and social setting. Video games are not the scapegoat but can cause problems.
7/21/2014 7:05:58 PM EDT
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I'll be voting Kingston.



Not super happy about it, but at least we know what we're getting with him.




I think Perdue is a snake.
7/21/2014 7:06:49 PM EDT
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7/21/2014 7:13:11 PM EDT
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Yeah, there's just something about Perdue that I don't like. He talks about "career politicians" but I think he wants to become a "career politician" very badly.  
7/21/2014 7:22:00 PM EDT
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7/21/2014 7:25:14 PM EDT
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I have personally spent some time with Kingston and his family.  They are a class act.  Career politician?  Probably but hell they all are any more.  At least we know he truly backs the 2a
7/21/2014 7:50:37 PM EDT
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You are not following me, playing violent video games in and of itself does not 'create' a sociopath or psychopath. But the playing of violent video games by children to young and unsupervised that are not in a proper family setting which teaches the value of life, other rights to life as well as right and wrong does in fact (and is proven) to make it easier for somebody so inclined to place no value on another human's life making it then easier to pull the trigger (and they have already practiced it in the virtual world). Look at the mental monster at Sandy Hook, took his own life so he wouldn't loss his points from killing the children by being killed by police. Violent Video games can be part of the equation but not the root of the problem. I played Doom to unwind after work but I was an adult at the time. Underage and unsupervised children that have not been instilled with all the values of society and the value of human life have no business playing violent video games. Right and wrong can be taught to a point, what is going on in the middle east proves this. Wrong is being taught and instilled into children as young as 10 that they are supposed to kill Americans. A child's mind is a fragile yet powerful thing that can be molded toward good or evil depending on the teachers, family unit, and social setting. Video games are not the scapegoat but can cause problems.
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Its exactly voting for the lesser of two evils in this case. The big problem is which is which. IMO Kingston is a real tax and spender. He voted to raise his own pay at every opportunity. He is big on adding pork and doing what special interest or big business needs whether its good for the people or not. On the plus side, he is A+ across the board on firearms and the Second Amendment.

Perdue says he is a real conservative but he will not really commit about guns. He says he is a Second Amendment defender and enforcement of current laws not stricter new laws is the way to go. But to me it seems he will not come out and blame the root causes, violent video games, broken homes, and not tracking and treating the mentally ill. But he is for lowering taxes and ending wasteful programs.

I like Kingston's Gun record and that makes him a Republican, but everything else points to Spend and Tax liberal IE RINO!

Guess Perdue might be the lesser of two evils due to him really being Conservative.

Big question is which one will be able to beat Nunn as in the end we really need that.



You lost me there. You're right about the other two, but people love to scapegoat video games for certain people's lack of being able to separate real life and fiction, and the sociopathic trait of not being able to feel empathy. The "mass shooter syndrome" is 100% a mental health deficiency.

I was just playing some Grand Theft Auto. Shit, now I feel the urge to go out and slaughter a bunch of people with a bulldozer, steal a tank, and then run around with a portable minigun. Maybe when they die, packs of money come out! [/sarcasm for the NSA dweeb reading this post. Don't no-knock me bro! ]

But back on track... I don't care who wins. No matter who gets in, it's going to be more of the same bullshit. We'll lose more rights, they'll gain more power and money in exchange for favors, and the country slides further into the toilet. We lose out jobs, the congresscritters get set up for life and buy yachts and gold for when the party starts.

I'm sick of this same shit over and over again every election cycle.


You are not following me, playing violent video games in and of itself does not 'create' a sociopath or psychopath. But the playing of violent video games by children to young and unsupervised that are not in a proper family setting which teaches the value of life, other rights to life as well as right and wrong does in fact (and is proven) to make it easier for somebody so inclined to place no value on another human's life making it then easier to pull the trigger (and they have already practiced it in the virtual world). Look at the mental monster at Sandy Hook, took his own life so he wouldn't loss his points from killing the children by being killed by police. Violent Video games can be part of the equation but not the root of the problem. I played Doom to unwind after work but I was an adult at the time. Underage and unsupervised children that have not been instilled with all the values of society and the value of human life have no business playing violent video games. Right and wrong can be taught to a point, what is going on in the middle east proves this. Wrong is being taught and instilled into children as young as 10 that they are supposed to kill Americans. A child's mind is a fragile yet powerful thing that can be molded toward good or evil depending on the teachers, family unit, and social setting. Video games are not the scapegoat but can cause problems.


You know, you're the first person I've ever met that has given me a valid reason/counterpoint on the video game argument. Dead serious.

And your point is a good one. It's all about whether or not a child is mature enough for those kinds of games, and that's the decision of the parent. But parents hate parenting nowadays, so we're back to the broken home thing again. Nature versus nurture.
7/22/2014 12:43:34 AM EDT
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Thanks for the link. It's important to do your homework before you vote as we all know the perils of an uninformed electorate...Both candidates will be strong 2nd amendment supporters. I know Perdue has a GWL and Kingston tends to vote the party line and that's about it. Personally, I am very opposed to career politicians-live under the laws you write and play by the same rules to earn your money. Currently, it looks like Cruz, Coburn, and Paul are the only ones who aren't using the senate to line their pockets. What's the difference in Kingston's 6 point plan now in 2014 vs his 7 point plan in 2006? If you always do what you always did, you'll get what you always got.
7/22/2014 3:13:57 AM EDT
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I'll be voting Kingston.

Not super happy about it, but at least we know what we're getting with him.

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This is what I have been thinking also. Did you see his (Perdue) NRA form?  Answered it perfectly except for 1 thing, at the end, he has never been a member of the NRA????  That gave me the slithering feeling......possible snake...opportunist.....
7/22/2014 3:33:50 AM EDT
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This is what I have been thinking also. Did you see his (Perdue) NRA form?  Answered it perfectly except for 1 thing, at the end, he has never been a member of the NRA????  That gave me the slithering feeling......possible snake...opportunist.....
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I'll be voting Kingston.

Not super happy about it, but at least we know what we're getting with him.

I think Perdue is a snake.

This is what I have been thinking also. Did you see his (Perdue) NRA form?  Answered it perfectly except for 1 thing, at the end, he has never been a member of the NRA????  That gave me the slithering feeling......possible snake...opportunist.....


Never ever been a member?   Yup, he's a snake.
7/22/2014 4:01:45 AM EDT
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VOTE!!!

7/22/2014 5:10:35 AM EDT
[#18]
Gonna vote .
7/22/2014 7:59:57 AM EDT
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I can't really put my finger on it but there's something about Perdue I don't like.

Kingston is my third choice behind Broun and Handle, but those two are no longer options.

In the big picture I could probably live with Jason Carter, but Nunn is not someone I want in elected office.

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7/22/2014 8:29:39 AM EDT
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I can't really put my finger on it but there's something about Perdue I don't like.



Kingston is my third choice behind Broun and Handle, but those two are no longer options.



In the big picture I could probably live with Jason Carter, but Nunn is not someone I want in elected office.



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You could kiss goodbye our yearly gun law improvements.
7/22/2014 8:36:26 AM EDT
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I can't really put my finger on it but there's something about Perdue I don't like.

Kingston is my third choice behind Broun and Handle, but those two are no longer options.

In the big picture I could probably live with Jason Carter, but Nunn is not someone I want in elected office.

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  You could kiss goodbye our yearly gun law improvements.


Maybe, but there could be worse.

From AJC (A liberal rag) We forget the extent to which Democratic governors were allied with the National Rifle Association in the old days. In both his 1998 and 2002 campaigns for governor, Roy Barnes carried the imprimatur of the NRA.
Carter well understands this. One clue to his statewide ambitions has been that fact that, while he represents a relatively liberal Atlanta enclave, Carter carries an “A” rating from the NRA – and that was before his vote for HB 60 last month.
In fact, you might say that Carter has been channeling his inner Zell Miller, who first gave voice to the need for Georgia Democrats – and national ones – to stay on the right side of gun owners.

Don't get me wrong, I won't be voting for Carter; but he isn't a Michelle Nunn.  It just occurred to me; BO and Nunn kinda look alike. Look at the picture above....

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7/22/2014 8:49:35 AM EDT
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I voted at about 10 . I was the 4th voter at the poll near my house . It looks like nobody fucking cares
7/22/2014 9:12:09 AM EDT
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Perdue and Kingston have beat each other over the head so badly people are staying away from the polls.  Unfortunately, that could spill over to the general election as well being it is only ~4 months away.
7/22/2014 9:30:07 AM EDT
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Early voting... I think 120K took advantage of early voting before it ended last Friday.
7/22/2014 10:38:29 AM EDT
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Stopped in to vote just after 8 AM, I didn't ask but from the few forms that were in the stack I would say I was probably the 8th person that voted. Sad actually that only 7-10% of registered voters will participate in this election. I asked a girl at lunch if she had voted, she didn't even know there was an election today or what it was about.
7/22/2014 12:17:49 PM EDT
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Just got back from voting.  I was the 204th voter at my precinct (the largest precinct in the county, IIRC).  
7/22/2014 2:47:14 PM EDT
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I was 183 at my precinct .

Edit: at 1730
7/22/2014 3:23:17 PM EDT
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I voted at 18:45. Looked like we had a small turnout at my polling place inPTC.
7/22/2014 3:24:41 PM EDT
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Hate me if you want but I WILL NOT be voting for any incumbents unless I have been impressed by his or her political actions in recent years.
7/22/2014 3:45:05 PM EDT
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#889 in Forsyth county around 5:30 maybe