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7/8/2014 7:17:48 AM EDT
How much would it cost to make an item similar to this out of steel or aluminum?



I need two of these made, one for top release, and one for side release.  




7/8/2014 7:28:34 AM EDT
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You can buy a similar one for 14 bucks


http://www.especialneeds.com/seat-belt-buckle-guard.html
7/8/2014 7:42:09 AM EDT
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You can buy a similar one for 14 bucks





http://www.especialneeds.com/seat-belt-buckle-guard.html
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That one is plastic, I need something a little more robust.



 
7/8/2014 7:49:10 AM EDT
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Do you already have one in the plastic material?

If you do, post the dimensions of it if you can.  



I can't see the other side but it looks easy enough to make out of some sheet metal.


7/8/2014 8:44:05 AM EDT
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What is the purpose if you don't mind me asking?
7/8/2014 9:03:20 AM EDT
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Bundy
Most hookers will still be able to get their fingernails through the slot. You should probably use a small round hole to release.
7/8/2014 9:17:37 AM EDT
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Now that you mention it...



What color is your panel van op so somebody can get the color to match the van.


7/8/2014 9:18:19 AM EDT
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Most hookers will still be able to get their fingernails through the slot. You should probably use a small round hole to release.
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Hookers secured with a seatbelt don't draw much attention. You throw a hog tied hooker in a mini-skirt in the back of your Taurus and all the sudden everyone gets curious.



Serious answer is I need a way to safely transport a particular set of people at higher risk of swan diving out of a vehicle on to the interstate. This would be a redundant safety measure, not the primary.  



 
7/8/2014 9:19:57 AM EDT
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Now that you mention it...
What color is your panel van op so somebody can get the color to match the van.





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Now that you mention it...
What color is your panel van op so somebody can get the color to match the van.





White of course. You think "free candy" painted on the side with Krylon is too much?



 
7/8/2014 10:53:00 AM EDT
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Hookers secured with a seatbelt don't draw much attention. You throw a hog tied hooker in a mini-skirt in the back of your Taurus and all the sudden everyone gets curious.

Serious answer is I need a way to safely transport a particular set of people at higher risk of swan diving out of a vehicle on to the interstate. This would be a redundant safety measure, not the primary.  
 
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Most hookers will still be able to get their fingernails through the slot. You should probably use a small round hole to release.

Hookers secured with a seatbelt don't draw much attention. You throw a hog tied hooker in a mini-skirt in the back of your Taurus and all the sudden everyone gets curious.

Serious answer is I need a way to safely transport a particular set of people at higher risk of swan diving out of a vehicle on to the interstate. This would be a redundant safety measure, not the primary.  
 



Ah OK. You want the plastic piece not the keyed part. I thought you might have gone to a call where you couldn't get someone out in time....

Glad it wasn't the case. But then again your reality is almost as bad as what I was thinking.
7/8/2014 11:07:38 AM EDT
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Give some dimensions and I might be able to rivet something out of aluminum.
7/8/2014 11:23:40 AM EDT
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I though about that as well, but I was concerned about sharp edges. I figured with a machined piece the edges could be chamfered to prevent lacerations.



 
7/8/2014 4:28:53 PM EDT
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I though about that as well, but I was concerned about sharp edges. I figured with a machined piece the edges could be chamfered to prevent lacerations.
 
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Give some dimensions and I might be able to rivet something out of aluminum.

I though about that as well, but I was concerned about sharp edges. I figured with a machined piece the edges could be chamfered to prevent lacerations.
 


Ask Mad_Machinist.
7/8/2014 4:36:23 PM EDT
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If you can send me one to look at or send a drawing.....shouldn't be too hard......


Ima dumass......I just realized what you need....how about an aluminum shroud that will bolt with allen screws aroung the latch and have a small circuliar hole to release like a bullet button........what is the year make and model of the vehicle so I can try and round up a seat belt buckle to design from.........
7/8/2014 5:07:56 PM EDT
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PS......don't ask about cost.....it'll give you a coronary.....I'll treat you right.......
To give you an idea...just did a run of gas blocks for the AR45's......and just the expendable tooling to run in a CNC enviroment was about $600 so just making one with the time spent drawing the solid model, then programming the tool path and setting up all the tooling ant teaching the machine where it is......the first gas block only cost like  $1400 bucks but the cost sort of evens out around the five hundreth block
7/8/2014 5:11:47 PM EDT
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Perhaps kydex would be a good solution.
7/8/2014 5:51:35 PM EDT
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Thanks, I hadn't though of kydex. Anyone done any solvent welding with kydex?



 
7/8/2014 5:58:21 PM EDT
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If you want to go with aluminum.....we can whip one up and run it through the parts tumbler and it will be smooth as silk on the outside......after staring at the pic it really shouldn't be too hard to whip one or two up......
7/9/2014 3:08:24 AM EDT
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How tough are 3D printed items?
7/9/2014 4:51:52 AM EDT
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PS......don't ask about cost.....it'll give you a coronary.....I'll treat you right.......
To give you an idea...just did a run of gas blocks for the AR45's......and just the expendable tooling to run in a CNC enviroment was about $600 so just making one with the time spent drawing the solid model, then programming the tool path and setting up all the tooling ant teaching the machine where it is......the first gas block only cost like  $1400 bucks but the cost sort of evens out around the five hundreth block
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It's not an easy sell to the customers who come in and just want one or two parts, is it? I get into that all the time, after I explain the associated costs usually their eyes glaze over and they wander off never to be heard from again. Most people have no clue how much of an investment we have to make just to be able to be in position to produce quality parts.
7/9/2014 5:09:35 AM EDT
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It's not an easy sell to the customers who come in and just want one or two parts, is it? I get into that all the time, after I explain the associated costs usually their eyes glaze over and they wander off never to be heard from again. Most people have no clue how much of an investment we have to make just to be able to be in position to produce quality parts.
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To give you an idea...just did a run of gas blocks for the AR45's......and just the expendable tooling to run in a CNC enviroment was about $600 so just making one with the time spent drawing the solid model, then programming the tool path and setting up all the tooling ant teaching the machine where it is......the first gas block only cost like  $1400 bucks but the cost sort of evens out around the five hundreth block


It's not an easy sell to the customers who come in and just want one or two parts, is it? I get into that all the time, after I explain the associated costs usually their eyes glaze over and they wander off never to be heard from again. Most people have no clue how much of an investment we have to make just to be able to be in position to produce quality parts.


Happened to me. I wanted a piece of lexan bent into a gentle curve 32x34" Guy quoted me 850 to do it.

I went away muttering to myself....fuck me. And then super glued the hatch on my sailboat back together.
7/9/2014 6:46:03 AM EDT
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Happened to me. I wanted a piece of lexan bent into a gentle curve 32x34" Guy quoted me 850 to do it.

I went away muttering to myself....fuck me. And then super glued the hatch on my sailboat back together.
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PS......don't ask about cost.....it'll give you a coronary.....I'll treat you right.......
To give you an idea...just did a run of gas blocks for the AR45's......and just the expendable tooling to run in a CNC enviroment was about $600 so just making one with the time spent drawing the solid model, then programming the tool path and setting up all the tooling ant teaching the machine where it is......the first gas block only cost like  $1400 bucks but the cost sort of evens out around the five hundreth block


It's not an easy sell to the customers who come in and just want one or two parts, is it? I get into that all the time, after I explain the associated costs usually their eyes glaze over and they wander off never to be heard from again. Most people have no clue how much of an investment we have to make just to be able to be in position to produce quality parts.


Happened to me. I wanted a piece of lexan bent into a gentle curve 32x34" Guy quoted me 850 to do it.

I went away muttering to myself....fuck me. And then super glued the hatch on my sailboat back together.


The funniest ones are the people who want you to make a replacement part for their obsolete whatchamacallit........that they used to be able to buy  a replacement for $10 until they quit making them can't understand why it costs several hundred to make one..... With that said...... MedicOC......I have extra special rates for first responders and LEO's on things like this.....Just want to make that clear...I'll be happy to help you whip something up that will do what you want and it probably won't cost much of anything....IF anything.....
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The funniest ones are the people who want you to make a replacement part for their obsolete whatchamacallit........that they used to be able to buy  a replacement for $10 until they quit making them can't understand why it costs several hundred to make one..... With that said...... MedicOC......I have extra special rates for first responders and LEO's on things like this.....Just want to make that clear...I'll be happy to help you whip something up that will do what you want and it probably won't cost much of anything....IF anything.....
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Essentially that is what I needed. A new hatch for my 30 year old sailboat that is no longer made. I did offer to compensate the guy for his time after I realized I couldn't afford to have him make it for me.

I'm considering trying to do it myself with a sand mold and infrared light setup to heat the plastic.

One off stuff is never cheap. But I have to admit the idea of spending 850 to get a bend in some plastic was shocking.
7/9/2014 11:12:35 AM EDT
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I am surprised that someone does not make one that is sturdy with a hole that a standard handcuff key will fit.
I will ask my brother if they have aluminum in stock that could be machined out.
The best fit would be accomplished if you give me the dimensions of the bottom female belt component and the max thickness that the male part will allow.
7/9/2014 3:08:04 PM EDT
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Essentially that is what I needed. A new hatch for my 30 year old sailboat that is no longer made. I did offer to compensate the guy for his time after I realized I couldn't afford to have him make it for me.

I'm considering trying to do it myself with a sand mold and infrared light setup to heat the plastic.

One off stuff is never cheap. But I have to admit the idea of spending 850 to get a bend in some plastic was shocking.
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The funniest ones are the people who want you to make a replacement part for their obsolete whatchamacallit........that they used to be able to buy  a replacement for $10 until they quit making them can't understand why it costs several hundred to make one..... With that said...... MedicOC......I have extra special rates for first responders and LEO's on things like this.....Just want to make that clear...I'll be happy to help you whip something up that will do what you want and it probably won't cost much of anything....IF anything.....


Essentially that is what I needed. A new hatch for my 30 year old sailboat that is no longer made. I did offer to compensate the guy for his time after I realized I couldn't afford to have him make it for me.

I'm considering trying to do it myself with a sand mold and infrared light setup to heat the plastic.

One off stuff is never cheap. But I have to admit the idea of spending 850 to get a bend in some plastic was shocking.


can you glue the old one back together enough to make a mold of it?
7/9/2014 3:12:31 PM EDT
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Yep it's glued together right now on the boat. Super glue is my friend!
7/10/2014 6:02:59 AM EDT
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Yep it's glued together right now on the boat. Super glue is my friend!
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can you glue the old one back together enough to make a mold of it?


Yep it's glued together right now on the boat. Super glue is my friend!

Simple radius or compound?
We could make a plywood form if it is a simple radius, clamp it to one edge, and then hit it with the heat gun..........
7/10/2014 6:25:15 AM EDT
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Simple radius or compound?
We could make a plywood form if it is a simple radius, clamp it to one edge, and then hit it with the heat gun..........
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can you glue the old one back together enough to make a mold of it?


Yep it's glued together right now on the boat. Super glue is my friend!

Simple radius or compound?
We could make a plywood form if it is a simple radius, clamp it to one edge, and then hit it with the heat gun..........


Unfortunately the original is a compound. Picture a sky light lens with an additional curve on one edge to clear a curved deck.

My thought is to just make a simple radius and not worry about the lens that the old one had.
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Unfortunately the original is a compound. Picture a sky light lens with an additional curve on one edge to clear a curved deck.

My thought is to just make a simple radius and not worry about the lens that the old one had.
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can you glue the old one back together enough to make a mold of it?


Yep it's glued together right now on the boat. Super glue is my friend!

Simple radius or compound?
We could make a plywood form if it is a simple radius, clamp it to one edge, and then hit it with the heat gun..........


Unfortunately the original is a compound. Picture a sky light lens with an additional curve on one edge to clear a curved deck.

My thought is to just make a simple radius and not worry about the lens that the old one had.


I have duplicated shapes like that with a plaster pour into the original on the concave side. Spray silicone on the original for a release agent, support it and/or dam the edges so the plaster doesn't run out on one side. Voila', instant form with all the original features.
7/10/2014 9:18:50 AM EDT
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Depends on what you make them out of . . .

Plastics like SLA/SLS can be pretty flimsy.

If you have a DMLS machine, that is a step in the right direction.