Posted: 9/12/2013 5:25:28 AM EDT
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I'm the armorer for a small police department and just received about 20 patrol rifles. They are 16" flat top upper receivers with plain, two piece plastic handguards and adjustable mil-spec buttstocks. Current sling attachment points are the swivel under the front sight base and on the bottom of the adj stock. I'm thinking 2 point slings, as that is what I've always trained with and allows the rifle to hang with at least some control while both hands are busy doing other things.
What is the best (cheapest) way to put a sling on these things for patrol officers wearing level IIIa body armor...some of which have a little extra tactical girth? Money is an issue, but I think I can afford to put a SLAP plate on them if that'll give us a better sling system. Overall, I MUST keep the cost of the entire system less than $50 per rifle. Can this be done? |
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paracord is always an option....  
http://www.blueforcegear.com/weapon-slings/sling-adapters You need one each of these to get a Vickers style or any 2 point sling to work: 
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Here is the one I use and recommend.
Sling If you call ask for Tom and tell him I sent you. Tell him you want 20 slings. He may be able to help on the deal. I can always train your guys to use them in the most efficient way. Don't worry about the AK label I have them on several AR's and other rifles. The price includes the Blue Force sling mount Derek mentioned above. Scott V www.centerfiretraining.com |
| though I prefer a two point , if your guys are going to be wearing armor you might consider a single point sling. an IKH RE plate and something like this BDS Tactical sling would work... |
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http://www.blueforcegear.com/weapon-slings/sling-adapters You need one each of these to get a Vickers style or any 2 point sling to work: http://www.blueforcegear.com/image/cache/data/UWL-325/UWL-325-800x533.jpg Quoted:
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paracord is always an option....
http://www.blueforcegear.com/weapon-slings/sling-adapters You need one each of these to get a Vickers style or any 2 point sling to work: http://www.blueforcegear.com/image/cache/data/UWL-325/UWL-325-800x533.jpg This! |
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I've been very pleased with my Crosstac sling so far - and the price was right to give it a test. I can't testify to long term abuse, but so far so good. I like the convertible option.
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I'm the armorer for a small police department and just received about 20 patrol rifles. They are 16" flat top upper receivers with plain, two piece plastic handguards and adjustable mil-spec buttstocks. Current sling attachment points are the swivel under the front sight base and on the bottom of the adj stock. I'm thinking 2 point slings, as that is what I've always trained with and allows the rifle to hang with at least some control while both hands are busy doing other things. What is the best (cheapest) way to put a sling on these things for patrol officers wearing level IIIa body armor...some of which have a little extra tactical girth? Money is an issue, but I think I can afford to put a SLAP plate on them if that'll give us a better sling system. Overall, I MUST keep the cost of the entire system less than $50 perrifle. Can this be done? I think the type of sling is a question for the officers that will be utilizing them. If there is one thing I hate it's decision like this being made on equipment I am using without the user's input. |
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I think the type of sling is a question for the officers that will be utilizing them. If there is one thing I hate it's decision like this being made on equipment I am using without the user's input. Normally I would agree. In this case however, 90% of the people that these rifles will be issued to feel that a rifle is nothing more than another piece of gear to throw in their trunk to be taken out only when it is needed. Likewise, they will probably only take them out and train with them for the two "mandatory" training sessions per year. That said, most of the users of these rifles won't know the difference between a sling and a carry strap until they are trained with one or the other. This is unfortunate, but I'm trying to be realistic. **Edited to add**--> I understand where you're coming from and as an end user feel the same way. That said, it is 10% of the officers that this may make a small difference to, and with their current level of training it won't make a whole lot of difference (remember - small department - I know ALL of these guys). ** End Edit** It is unfortunate that this is the case and it is something that I'm going to try and remedy once I get certified as a patrol rifle instructor at the end of the month. I do have a feeling however, that I'm going to have an uphill battle to get officers out to the range on their own time when they aren't being paid and forced to be there. Thankfully for them, someone like me is taking the time to consider what the best piece of gear would be for the "average" user and trying to equip and train them with it. If it were left up to anyone else they would simply have a carry strap hooked to each of the sling attachment points (which *might* actually be the best option). |
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I put these on a quite a few rifles for people you're talking about...who don't really know the difference, but I still cared enough to try..
My reasoning... inexpensive...DECENT webbing...Still works for modern fighting positions.... works like a VCAS or VTAC sling and is adjustable for all body types, which can help push someone to higher quality of the same type in the future if shooting schedules increase. That, combined with what Derek mentioned....hooked to the rear via the slide slot in the stock or SLAP plates should keep you under price. http://www.tacticalassaultgearstore.com/adjustable2pointsling.aspx http://www.opticsplanet.com/tactical-assault-gear-adjustable-2-point-gun-sling.html 
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