[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Bomb Making Hottie (Page 1 of 2)
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she doesn't look like a Meth addict to me, but it's the government that is leaning on her, if it was a guy, there would have been child porn "found" at the scene also. who knows, i've just leaned from experience to hold judgement until EVERYTHING is brought out, even then things can be frabricated.
but posting videos 
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We are all guilty to some degree of something if the microscope is powerful enough.
It's become nearly impossible to remain a "law-abiding citizen" when everything you could possibly do is regulated to such an extent. Soon it will be illegal to breath too much air. Gotta make sure your clean air is properly redistributed to those less fortunate who's air is contaminated by store-brand cigarettes. Or crack. |
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It's become nearly impossible to remain a "law-abiding citizen" when .... That is the plan. If you can't rule all, imprison those you can't. For example, ATF has trumped up charges on FFL holders for decades to strip them of their license. Look it up on JPFO. |
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She looks like she's been crying. WSB has a lot of pics. she's a pretty girl and likes adventure.
We'll never hear if it's just Tannerite. We should consider the source of the information we get before we judge how wrong she is. She and her dad do the things most of us like. She is one of us, and from the jist of this thread, we're throwing her under the bus. so what, she posted on youtube/facebook. Should a freedom loving individual be able to do that? Have you ever shot tannerite in anything other than the container it comes in? Perhaps you even saw projectiles from it. Maybe she made the homemade mix. It could be almost any of us in the same boat. It's time to wake up people. you talk about zombies and liberty, but when the picture is painted for you, you buy it 100%. |
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What bomb did she make? It wasn't just tannerite was it? It said pipe bomb materials. Course anyone who does their own home repairs could have the same shit. They also call every gun a sawed off automatic assault AK! Just don't be to quick to judge. From the sounds of it I be she our her father is/was a member here. |
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What bomb did she make? It wasn't just tannerite was it? It said pipe bomb materials. Course anyone who does their own home repairs could have the same shit. They also call every gun a sawed off automatic assault AK! Just don't be to quick to judge. From the sounds of it I be she our her father is/was a member here. Exactly my point, I bet the only thing that will sink her is the drugs, unless the gun charges are NFA related. |
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i am starting to agree with Kletz. the statement in the article from her father that she "runs with the wrong crowd" or the like is a little disturbing, and i definitely don't think she is not the brightest bulb in the box, but i don't see that she has done anything "wrong" per se here.
want to read something that will really piss you off, and actually is illegal? last night O's DOJ issued a cease and desist order that is supposed to keep FL from eliminating illegal, non-resident alien voters from the voting roles. click |
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I'm going to say this and I'll be done with the topic.
The time is quickly drawing near that you will need to choose. You will need to choose the side you're on, your involvement, the worth of your values. Everyone must choose, or the choice will be made for you. Read the first two paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence and tell me that we aren't already there: When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. Was this girls actions a danger to anyone else from the information we have? No. Was it in the pursuit of happiness? Yes. Was she enjoying and expressing her God given liberty? Yes. What is the crime? A tax violation for an unregistered destructive device. DEA was not involved, so clearly they weren't there on suspicion of drug use. That's a tack on charge after raiding the house. Just another nail in the coffin. She didn't pay the $200 tax on her destructive device. Imagine you have a 16" barrel AR. It has crown damage so you order the tool from brownells to put an 11 degree crown on the muzzle. In the process you shave off 1mm of metal, and screw the flash hider back on. Sounds innocent enough, but, you just committed a federal felony for not filing a form 1, submitting background check info and paying $200 tax to ATF for an SBR. It's criminal to own a 15.99999" barreled rifle without registering the weapon. "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."-Thos. Jefferson |
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I doubt if it was tannerite, since the video shows her lighting a fuse. Probably a conventional pipe bomb with gunpowder. These were a lot more common in the 70's. They can do quite a bit of damage with very little material investment.
Explosives used to be part of the thrill of growing up. But going to the hardware store and getting dynamite to blow up beaver dams on your farm would probably draw attention now. When it comes to explosives nowadays, the feds don't react - they over-react. I do realize "bomb" building is a federal violation, but I don't know if a girl blowing up toilets in the woods is worth the Feds or anyone else getting worked up about. She brought it on herself. She should have just kept her mouth shut and not posted her life on YouTube. She wouldn't be facing anything at all right now. And the pot and meth possession doesn't help her case one bit. 
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Even it it was tannerite it is only legal when in its separated components when transporting or storing. I had a sales meeting with the ATF and asked them about tannerite. The agent told me that tannerite and other binary explosives are only legal if they are mixed and used right away. If you mix them, and store them or transport them in their mixed state, they are illegal.
That toilet exploding didn't appear to be tannerite as there was only one bang. I didn't hear a gunshot. |
Hey everyone, look at all these guns I have access to!
Oh, she has some very nice shot's on her facebook. 
http://www.facebook.com/celia.savage |
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This got blowed way out of proportion very quickly. I cant say that I belive everything that the media is saying at this point. She in no way looks like a meth head to me Recreational meth. user..??? Based on the pics she was a adrenalin junkie so she liked to get the old ticker pumping. I can guarantee you she's not a junkie but I wouldn't be shocked to learn she was a rec user. TD |
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Wasn't gonna be back, but the court document indicates pipe bombs of varous sizes including a tennis ball filled with gunpowder.
Yes, it's illegal, but how does it differ from tannerite in it's intended use. Tannerite has a brisance rating of 7000m/s (explosiveness). |
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is there such a thing as a recreational meth user? i thought meth was one of those things that would mess you up RFN. Don't believe all govt.org propaganda. Meth is undeniably wicked and evil but so is alcohol. THINK ABOUT THIS...!!!!!! Govt.org is waging a war on drugs. What does Govt.org do in order to gain an advantage in any war..? They bombard the country where they are waging with propaganda. Propaganda by nature is designed to shock and scare the combatants in order to gain an advantage. Marijuana was regulated just after the turn of the century because according to govt.org negro men could not longer control them self in the presence of white women after a smoking cannabis. Drunks are only concerned with their next drink no matter where or when you find them. There are also people like myself that drink on the rare occasion as in 2 or three times a year. This young lady is a winner as far as I'm concerned because she's hails from the mythical town of Shamrock GA according to her FB profile. TD @ Shamrock Pawn |
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Hey everyone, look at all these guns I have access to!
Oh, she has some very nice shot's on her facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/celia.savage Annnnnnnndddd.....that's why I lock the shit out of my facebook page. |
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Hey everyone, look at all these guns I have access to!
Oh, she has some very nice shot's on her facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/celia.savage Annnnnnnndddd.....that's why I lock the shit out of my facebook page. Lol, people where even telling her that she should on her wall a looong time ago and she basically said she didn't care that she didn't have anything to hide. That's working out well for her. |
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Marijuana was regulated just after the turn of the century because according to govt.org negro men could not longer control them self in the presence of white women after a smoking cannabis. I agree with your sentiments on the whole "drug war" thing, but the underlined portion is not correct In 1901, the Atlanta Constitution reported that “Use of the drug [cocaine] among negroes is growing to an alarming extent.” The New York Times reported that under the influence of cocaine, “sexual desires are increased and perverted … peaceful negroes become quarrelsome, and timid negroes develop a degree of 'Dutch courage' that is sometimes almost incredible.” A medical doctor even wrote “cocaine is often the direct incentive to the crime of rape by the negroes.” To complete the characterization, a judge in Mississippi declared that supplying a “negro” with cocaine was more dangerous than injecting a dog with rabies. Quoted from the wikipedia article on Cocaine.
In 1937 in the United States, the Marihuana Tax Act was passed, and prohibited the production of hemp in addition to cannabis. because of this the wood pulp/newspaper industry could operate without competitors.
Now you know, and knowing is half the battle 
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She would do well to get someone to delete her Facebook page. With things like Anarchist listed as her political views and her About Me:
I despise all law enforcement and any governing authority. I am not one for selective targeting but mass destruction.
Seriously? The media will have a field day with just her FB page alone... |
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Marijuana was regulated just after the turn of the century because according to govt.org negro men could not longer control them self in the presence of white women after a smoking cannabis. I agree with your sentiments on the whole "drug war" thing, but the underlined portion is not correct In 1901, the Atlanta Constitution reported that “Use of the drug [cocaine] among negroes is growing to an alarming extent.” The New York Times reported that under the influence of cocaine, “sexual desires are increased and perverted … peaceful negroes become quarrelsome, and timid negroes develop a degree of 'Dutch courage' that is sometimes almost incredible.” A medical doctor even wrote “cocaine is often the direct incentive to the crime of rape by the negroes.” To complete the characterization, a judge in Mississippi declared that supplying a “negro” with cocaine was more dangerous than injecting a dog with rabies. Quoted from the wikipedia article on Cocaine.
In 1937 in the United States, the Marihuana Tax Act was passed, and prohibited the production of hemp in addition to cannabis. because of this the wood pulp/newspaper industry could operate without competitors.
Now you know, and knowing is half the battle You sir are correct...... I was trying to type a somewhat involved reply while helping customers..... TD |
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My only comment.......if you are gonna do stupid /illegal/questionable shit.......DON"T POST IT ONLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! X2. Don't really care what people do as long as they do not hurt any one,but if you do something illegal and get caught I have no sympathy. |
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When I noticed that photo on FB a few days ago my initial though was meth head. Definitely the body of the meth addict.... She is what many would describe as an attention whore but she sure as hell ain't a terrorist or meth addict. TD |
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Quoted: Wasn't gonna be back, but the court document indicates pipe bombs of varous sizes including a tennis ball filled with gunpowder. Yes, it's illegal, but how does it differ from tannerite in it's intended use. Tannerite has a brisance rating of 7000m/s (explosiveness). Tannerite has to be mixed on site to be legal and must be shot with a high velocity rifle bullet to be detonated. You can't wire up some Tannerite to a timer and some blasting caps and leave it somewhere for later or light the fuse on a bottle of it and throw it into a crowd. |
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Is a self-made video recording of a person detonating an explosive really enough for an arrest warrant? How are the authorities positive beyond a reasonable doubt that illegal materials are used in the construction of the device? I don't know the law very well yet a video without any corroborating witness testimony seems flimsy at best. Has the arrest warrant been made public? MY suspicion is that the arrest is the product of a witch hunt, pure and simple. People that have guns, don't love Uncle Sugar, prefer to live out in the sticks, and likely have political opinions that are not favorable to Socialist government increasingly seem to be the ones under surveillance by Federal LE. I for one am very weary of the arrest of American citizens on terror grounds just because the US Attorney's Office says so. Where is the proof? Why sully a person's character if they are really guilty or wrongdoing? Let the facts speak and leave the sensationalism out of it. Like some one else has pointed out, innocent until proven guilty. Regardless of her offenses, its too bad that by the time ATF and Holder's goons are done with this family she'll be very sorry that her paths ever crossed with the feds. |
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Is a self-made video recording of a person detonating an explosive really enough for an arrest warrant? How are the authorities positive beyond a reasonable doubt that illegal materials are used in the construction of the device? I don't know the law very well yet a video without any corroborating witness testimony seems flimsy at best. Has the arrest warrant been made public? MY suspicion is that the arrest is the product of a witch hunt, pure and simple. People that have guns, don't love Uncle Sugar, prefer to live out in the sticks, and likely have political opinions that are not favorable to Socialist government increasingly seem to be the ones under surveillance by Federal LE. I for one am very weary of the arrest of American citizens on terror grounds just because the US Attorney's Office says so. Where is the proof? Why sully a person's character if they are really guilty or wrongdoing? Let the facts speak and leave the sensationalism out of it. Like some one else has pointed out, innocent until proven guilty. Regardless of her offenses, its too bad that by the time ATF and Holder's goons are done with this family she'll be very sorry that her paths ever crossed with the feds. For an arrest warrant, proof beyond a reasonable doubt isn't needed. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt is the requirement for a conviction. For an arrest warrant, only probably cause is needed (shown via an affidavit). |
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Is a self-made video recording of a person detonating an explosive really enough for an arrest warrant? How are the authorities positive beyond a reasonable doubt that illegal materials are used in the construction of the device? I don't know the law very well yet a video without any corroborating witness testimony seems flimsy at best. Has the arrest warrant been made public? MY suspicion is that the arrest is the product of a witch hunt, pure and simple. People that have guns, don't love Uncle Sugar, prefer to live out in the sticks, and likely have political opinions that are not favorable to Socialist government increasingly seem to be the ones under surveillance by Federal LE. I for one am very weary of the arrest of American citizens on terror grounds just because the US Attorney's Office says so. Where is the proof? Why sully a person's character if they are really guilty or wrongdoing? Let the facts speak and leave the sensationalism out of it. Like some one else has pointed out, innocent until proven guilty. Regardless of her offenses, its too bad that by the time ATF and Holder's goons are done with this family she'll be very sorry that her paths ever crossed with the feds. So true about Holder. I'm just hoping there is going to be a change come November. |