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2/21/2011 4:18:20 AM EDT
At least as far as the Navy is concerned - that is all......
2/21/2011 5:34:40 AM EDT
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Have you seen the newest American Rifleman?  SCAR-H is on the cover.  I haven't read the article yet but i'm sure it was praised.

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2/21/2011 5:38:07 AM EDT
[#2]
Did FN have some ads int he magazine?
2/21/2011 5:41:20 AM EDT
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I'm shocked!  

2/21/2011 6:42:02 AM EDT
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Cost cutting measures.

The Navy is adopting this technology. It will likely be surgical implanted on all SEALs. I am sure the EFV was canceled to fund the purchase of combat hair gel of SEALs

Monk
2/21/2011 8:30:13 AM EDT
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How can this be?  Arfcommers love it.
2/21/2011 9:04:29 AM EDT
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I'm sure we'll see a lot of advertising for the scar h as they will now have to sell a shit ton of them to civilians.
2/21/2011 9:57:22 AM EDT
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At least as far as the Navy is concerned - that is all......


I am not sure this is true.  I know the spokesman, Maj Wes Ticer, at SOCOM who said they are moving forward with the MK17 (heavy) and droping the MK16 (light).  

NAVSPECWARFARE (Seals) may be able to choose a different platform, but I don't see any hard news or a press release from them speaking to it.

Word (rumor) from SOCOM is the multi-caliber receiver is the future ticket.

Hate to flame, but I am a public affairs officer and our #1 rule is check the facts before you go to print.

2/21/2011 10:25:23 AM EDT
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At least as far as the Navy is concerned - that is all......


I am not sure this is true.  I know the spokesman, Maj Wes Ticer, at SOCOM who said they are moving forward with the MK17 (heavy) and droping the MK16 (light).  

NAVSPECWARFARE (Seals) may be able to choose a different platform, but I don't see any hard news or a press release from them speaking to it.

Word (rumor) from SOCOM is the multi-caliber receiver is the future ticket.

Hate to flame, but I am a public affairs officer and our #1 rule is check the facts before you go to print.



The gentlemen that I spoke to yesterday is very much in the know as he has been a part of that project within the Navy and this is a very recent developement. As I said, this may be a Navy thing only and not necessarily an Army thing at this time.
2/21/2011 11:43:03 AM EDT
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At least as far as the Navy is concerned - that is all......


I am not sure this is true.  I know the spokesman, Maj Wes Ticer, at SOCOM who said they are moving forward with the MK17 (heavy) and droping the MK16 (light).  

NAVSPECWARFARE (Seals) may be able to choose a different platform, but I don't see any hard news or a press release from them speaking to it.

Word (rumor) from SOCOM is the multi-caliber receiver is the future ticket.

Hate to flame, but I am a public affairs officer and our #1 rule is check the facts before you go to print.




The gentlemen that I spoke to yesterday is very much in the know as he has been a part of that project within the Navy and this is a very recent developement. As I said, this may be a Navy thing only and not necessarily an Army thing at this time.


Good to know. And thanks for the attribution.

I am on duty next week and will ask around my circle.  As for the Air Force, our SOF generally get the left overs from the Green B's and Rangers.  But I know a combat controller who manages that entire communities equipment procurement. I know we had some MK16s and have some MK17's with the 23rd Special Tactics Squadron at Herby.

I've always taken a personal interest in this story, as most of us have.
2/21/2011 1:05:27 PM EDT
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Cost cutting measures.



The Navy is adopting this technology. It will likely be surgical implanted on all SEALs. I am sure the EFV was canceled to fund the purchase of combat hair gel of SEALs



Monk



Auto-popping collars are next on the list.

 
2/21/2011 6:55:40 PM EDT
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at SOCOM


Important to note that SOCOM is not beholden to the service specific equipment requests. Hence why they were rockin Crye MC long before anyone really thought much about it and why they still wear woodland BDUs. I know you may know this but others may not
2/21/2011 7:54:42 PM EDT
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At least as far as the Navy is concerned - that is all......


I am not sure this is true.  I know the spokesman, Maj Wes Ticer, at SOCOM who said they are moving forward with the MK17 (heavy) and droping the MK16 (light).  

NAVSPECWARFARE (Seals) may be able to choose a different platform, but I don't see any hard news or a press release from them speaking to it.

Word (rumor) from SOCOM is the multi-caliber receiver is the future ticket.

Hate to flame, but I am a public affairs officer and our #1 rule is check the facts before you go to print.




The gentlemen that I spoke to yesterday is very much in the know as he has been a part of that project within the Navy and this is a very recent developement. As I said, this may be a Navy thing only and not necessarily an Army thing at this time.


Good to know. And thanks for the attribution.

I am on duty next week and will ask around my circle.  As for the Air Force, our SOF generally get the left overs from the Green B's and Rangers.  But I know a combat controller who manages that entire communities equipment procurement. I know we had some MK16s and have some MK17's with the 23rd Special Tactics Squadron at Herby.

I've always taken a personal interest in this story, as most of us have.


I got to eat dinner with a combat controller on a cruise a while back.  First SF guy that I had ever met.  Hell of nice guy, soft spoken, he was cruising with the hottest lady on the boat so I enjoyed dinner every night.  

I didn't pry about his service cause it didn't seem like he was real interested in talking about it.  He had the look on his face of a man that had seen a lot of horrible shit in his life.
2/22/2011 4:31:54 AM EDT
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I find that the CCTs and PJs I know are quiet, humble, near introverts, but always very nice.  And you can imagine, as they support Green Beret and Navy Seal teams around the globe they see and do things they'd rather not speak of, so that we all can enjoy the freedoms we enjoy today.

I am just a spokesperson for them and the mission, and everyday I stand in awe of their abilities and accomplishments.

Here's a little eye candy shot by an Airman (SSgt select in my shop).

AFSOC airdrops

Check our YT pages for more vids

AFSOC You tube
2/22/2011 8:04:47 AM EDT
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combat controller on a cruise a while back.  First SF guy that I had ever met.


In the future don't refer to AF special operations as "SF". In the AF, SF stands for "security forces" which aren't in the SOF community for the most part (pleas no zoomies mention 'raven teams'). SF typicaly refers to the Army's Special Forces Soldiers under the command of USASFC.

2/22/2011 9:21:25 AM EDT
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combat controller on a cruise a while back.  First SF guy that I had ever met.


In the future don't refer to AF special operations as "SF". In the AF, SF stands for "security forces" which aren't in the SOF community for the most part (pleas no zoomies mention 'raven teams'). SF typicaly refers to the Army's Special Forces Soldiers under the command of USASFC.



Zoomie here, front and center!

Absolutely correct.  SF are green beanies and some 75th Rangers.  Both belong to Army SOC.  Air Force CCT, PJ and Special Ops Weather are SOF and belong to AFSOC.

However –– AFSOC is building DAGRE teams:  Deployed Aircraft Ground Response Elements, and while not SOF, they may be on SOF teams to do aircraft protection and other police work like evidence collection.  They don't claim to be SOF either, but are doing much more training than RAVENs.
2/22/2011 3:30:34 PM EDT
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combat controller on a cruise a while back.  First SF guy that I had ever met.


In the future don't refer to AF special operations as "SF". In the AF, SF stands for "security forces" which aren't in the SOF community for the most part (pleas no zoomies mention 'raven teams'). SF typicaly refers to the Army's Special Forces Soldiers under the command of USASFC.



Zoomie here, front and center!

Absolutely correct.  SF are green beanies and some 75th Rangers.  Both belong to Army SOC.  Air Force CCT, PJ and Special Ops Weather are SOF and belong to AFSOC.

However –– AFSOC is building DAGRE teams:  Deployed Aircraft Ground Response Elements, and while not SOF, they may be on SOF teams to do aircraft protection and other police work like evidence collection.  They don't claim to be SOF either, but are doing much more training than RAVENs.


Pretty familiar with the DAGRE folks thru my liason with OSI. But I had a run in with a lil senior airman in AFG last year who didn't want menorah the others gettin in "his" plane while we were loaded. Was the only time I showed my badge to one up and shut up someone
2/22/2011 3:49:59 PM EDT
[#17]
Touche.

I will end my open advertisment for AFSOC now.

Glad to know you were workin with some of the best.

And thank you for your service.
2/22/2011 4:25:48 PM EDT
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combat controller on a cruise a while back.  First SF guy that I had ever met.


In the future don't refer to AF special operations as "SF". In the AF, SF stands for "security forces" which aren't in the SOF community for the most part (pleas no zoomies mention 'raven teams'). SF typicaly refers to the Army's Special Forces Soldiers under the command of USASFC.



Thanks, I didn't know that.
2/22/2011 7:39:09 PM EDT
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Touche.

I will end my open advertisment for AFSOC now.

Glad to know you were workin with some of the best.

And thank you for your service.


I love AFSOC, no one else can make hell on earth look so beautiful

2/22/2011 7:40:25 PM EDT
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combat controller on a cruise a while back.  First SF guy that I had ever met.


In the future don't refer to AF special operations as "SF". In the AF, SF stands for "security forces" which aren't in the SOF community for the most part (pleas no zoomies mention 'raven teams'). SF typicaly refers to the Army's Special Forces Soldiers under the command of USASFC.



Thanks, I didn't know that.


I am a sponge. Squeeze me and see what comes out

2/22/2011 8:59:56 PM EDT
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combat controller on a cruise a while back.  First SF guy that I had ever met.


In the future don't refer to AF special operations as "SF". In the AF, SF stands for "security forces" which aren't in the SOF community for the most part (pleas no zoomies mention 'raven teams'). SF typicaly refers to the Army's Special Forces Soldiers under the command of USASFC.



Thanks, I didn't know that.


I am a sponge. Squeeze me and see what comes out


You know how I know you're gay...
2/23/2011 4:57:36 AM EDT
[#22]
You know how I know your ghey? You found that pearl of wit use of the English language sexual in nature.
2/23/2011 6:36:50 AM EDT
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You know how I know your ghey? You found that pearl of wit use of the English language sexual in nature.


.... you people