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4/24/2009 7:12:04 PM EDT
We all know how expensive and hard to find ammo in bulk has become.  It took me quite a while to piece together a decent amount of 5.56 over three months just to have a couple thousand rounds.  I had to pay a small premium over what ammo cost three months ago, but I didn't spend more than needed.

I really would like to take some more classes for rifle at Creekside or another training center, but they all state at least 1000-2000 rounds of ammo.   F that!   At todays prices you are looking at spending $450-850 on just ammo for the class.  Not to mention, just about everyone is backordered on quality 5.56 except for cheap crap ammo like Wolf or Brown Bear steel cased stuff.  

Has anyone noticed a large decrease in attendance at the gun classes lately?

I love to train and keep my skills up, but I am afraid of burning up my ammo and not being able to replenish it, or afford to buy it again as costs increase.

What are your thoughts on this?
4/24/2009 7:32:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Get a Spikes .22 upper if the course allows .22 for the training.

It will quickly pay for itself.
4/24/2009 7:48:00 PM EDT
[#2]
^^^.22 ain't that easy to find these days either though.

i personally just shoot wolf/brown bear and then clean the hell out of my gun.
4/24/2009 8:01:42 PM EDT
[#3]
I've just about stopped shooting.

I have a pretty good supply of .22lr so thats about all I'm burning. Oh and some 9mm to keep proficient with my carry gun.
4/24/2009 8:05:57 PM EDT
[#4]
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^^^.22 ain't that easy to find these days either though.


I agree, but even at seven cents a round, CCI, which I see quite often, is about 1/10 the cost of decent quality 5.56.

Plus, unlike the unavailable Value Paks, CCI is tight, accurate, quality controlled ammo, and seldom fails to function.

It costs a bit more, but CCI is the only .22 ammo I own and shoot.

4/25/2009 9:20:56 AM EDT
[#5]
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^^^.22 ain't that easy to find these days either though.


I agree, but even at seven cents a round, CCI, which I see quite often, is about 1/10 the cost of decent quality 5.56.

Plus, unlike the unavailable Value Paks, CCI is tight, accurate, quality controlled ammo, and seldom fails to function.

It costs a bit more, but CCI is the only .22 ammo I own and shoot.



I agree..it's worth the extra cost to buy CCI and not be aggravated by FTF or other jams caused by poor quality bulk packs.  The other added benefit is that most wal-marts still have a good supply of the Mini-mags.
4/25/2009 9:34:07 AM EDT
[#6]
Shooting about once every other month on average because of the ammo situation.
4/25/2009 2:28:00 PM EDT
[#7]
Most courses have reduced their round count. Even LEO can't get training supplies.

Even then, I think it would be hard to get a two day class in with less than 500 rounds.

The ammo is out there, it might be PMC at $450/case but it is there.
4/25/2009 2:31:38 PM EDT
[#8]
I thought about doing the AK operators course but the ammo requirement was definitely a deterrent. Then I also realized that I may not need a course on the most simple assault rifle ever made.
4/25/2009 2:34:19 PM EDT
[#9]
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I thought about doing the AK operators course but the ammo requirement was definitely a deterrent. Then I also realized that I may not need a course on the most simple assault rifle ever made.


At the time I couldn't find the last 250 rds I needed for the class. I only had 750 total in my stockpile..
4/25/2009 3:00:43 PM EDT
[#10]
I've been trying to take the Creekside carbine class since late last year. I didn't have extra money for ammo back then, and now the problem is that I can't find any bulk ammo period. Even if I could, I wouldn't be able to afford enough of it.