Posted: 2/16/2009 2:20:47 PM EDT
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Thinking about something we could use but also for the kids to shoot. We would get a .22 suppressor and maybe go the SBR route. -Mrs.Monk |
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AR upper gets my vote and I will explain why.
I had a GSG, I traded it off. I dont regret it in the least bit. Here is why, the length of pull was too long in stock form for Jess to be comfortable with it. I put the factory collapsing stock on it and it still didnt fit her comfortably. The GSG is difficult to suppress, the factory barrel isnt thick enough to thread for a suppressor, in order to suppress it easilly you must either chop the factory barrel or buy an aftermarket barrel to replace it. I am not aware of anyone making a full 16 inch replacement barrel threaded for a can at the moment. SO if you chop the barrel or replace it with an aftermarket short barrel ..OOOOPS what did I just say ...... its an SBR and will cost you another 200 on top of the can, AND it is now dedicated to being a SBR you cant put a different upper on it. Arent you already buying a Factory Sabre SBR? There that saves you the 200 bucks if you want to cut the 22 upper back to the same length as your already factory upper and swap with ease. The AR has a larger range of adjustability in the length of pull. You are already familliar with the controls of an AR there is nothing new to learn. If you want to use the 22 upper as a training tool to cut back on the cost of ammo then all your normal gear will work. Price of mags are about the same between the BDM and the GSG mags.... roughly 35 each. Accuracy out of each is probably going to be about the same. To me the GSG is cool, I will not lie about that at all. Its cool as shit and is fun. But I think from an overall standpoint I think that the AR upper is a better investment. PSI has the Tac Sol uppers at 575 GSG's brand new are running around 500 A 10/22 is neither the GSG nor an AR..... people buy the 10/22 then want to turn it into an AR but it simply is not ... and if you are going to spend the money to build up a 10/22 why not just buy the AR upper and put it on your lower? Hope this helps some and I agree since hes shooting blanks ............ PIE |
| I voted 10/22. 25 round mags work, are cheap and plentiful. You can change barrels in minutes and virtually any after market mod you want is already in mass production. If you decide to build a super light rifle, you can. If you want a target rifle, no problem. If you want a folding stock, or collapsible stock, done deal. I have one and am very happy with it. Plus if John Monroe wins his lawsuit you can get an akins accelerator to turn it into a bullet hose (semi-auto still of course just a 400 rpm rate of fire in semi-mode). |
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Get what the lady wants...and then...get pie! I have a 22lr AR upper, and it is all the rage with the kids when I bring it to shoots where there are kids. Last time I had it out I had a line formed up, 1 shooting, the next one was loading his/her mag, when the shooter came off the line they would hand the mag to the 'hole' shooter and move to the back of the line. You'd be amazed how fast a brick will go that way. I made an adapter to use the suppressor off my Uzi on the upper, it looks pretty slick as the can is the same diameter as the handguard tube. You can see it if you look past Marks big head on the AAC suppressor shoot video. :D |
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I voted 10/22. 25 round mags work, are cheap and plentiful. You can change barrels in minutes and virtually any after market mod you want is already in mass production. If you decide to build a super light rifle, you can. If you want a target rifle, no problem. If you want a folding stock, or collapsible stock, done deal. I have one and am very happy with it. Plus if John Monroe wins his lawsuit you can get an akins accelerator to turn it into a bullet hose (semi-auto still of course just a 400 rpm rate of fire in semi-mode). +10 for the 10/22 for all the reasons DKing listed and more. The 10/22 is just as customizable as an AR, or you can have lots of fun with the stock model. I ran over 10,000 rounds through my original 10/22 in the first 5 or so years I owned it (still have it). I bought 2 more last year for different purposes. One has been modded to a .17 HM2, and the other has a 16" threaded barrel with a Hogue stock. For the price of a GSG, you can buy a 10/22 and throw down ~$300 for mags, optics, ammo, or whatever you want. An AR upper? If you want the kids banging around your AR lower, go for it. Probably the most expensive option though. The 10/22 can take a beating and spare parts are cheap. Psst! Go with the 10/22... 
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lol about 8-12 months ago, i posted in the rimfire section the same poll and question, well only for me since i dont have kids  iirc the .22 ar upper got the most votes ~50%, 10/22 ~35% and the gsg5 at ~15. so i was planning on building me a AR .22 SBR and bought the lowers, lpks, etc, then jumped on that great deal bass pro had for the 10/22's so now i have a stock 10/22 and AR lower and parts...
so my project plans for the 10/22 - hogue stock, tacsol threaded end bbl, harris bipod, havent decided on the trigger group, maybe some glass. .22 AR15 - SBR, 5.5" bbl, spikes or tacsol dedicated upper, 7-9" free float hand guards. dont know what im going to start with or if im just going to build them as they come... get both 
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I have all three honestly the most reliable is def the 10/22 also has the highest round count by x 1000.
dedicated 22lr by tactical solutions is really fun and surprisingly accurate. Currently my favorite thing to shoot. the GSG is fun and uber cool looking but so far my opinion is that it is crap. I have atleast 4-5 jams per 100 rounds. Currently the bolt is jammed so that it will only open half way and something has come loose rattling around inside the stock. I was so aggrevated shooting it last time it has been out of commission since then. I am not willing to give up on it yet. I will fix it and I will enjoy shooting it again...i hope I vote the 22 upper |
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where's the get all three option? I have the spikes upper and the 10/22. can't go wrong with either. 10/22 is cheaper for mags and stuff, but I still voted .22 upper just b/c of cool factor! you are welcome to try either of mine out any time you want. I was too lazy to try to edit and add the all three option. 
Might have to take you up on that offer. We haven't decided yet. Thanks for all the good input. |
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Research! Ya got to do your research! Ya totally missed is this>>  SIG SAUER 522 .22LR! $515.00 I'm looking to sell my .45 compact to fund the purchase and might have to sell my beloved Norinco MAK & goodies to make it happen. Either way, I want! Being unemployed I've been doing a lot of research on all kinds of things to save money as bullets aint gettin any cheaper.Besides if the Dems cut off import ammo the value of my AK will go way down and ammo will go up. A .22 kills just as well in the head as the big boys just a few milliseconds slower and at a closer range..  |
, yes it was dirty. many parts available and cheap.
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10/22 hands down. as stated previously they are cheap,tough as nails, easily accessorized, and you can mod the living shit out of them.
The AR uppers are cool but are expensive. The GSG5's are pure shit! POS cheap ass pot metal junkers. I had one and after 3 months got rid of it due to the thing jamming constantly, and wearing out literally after 2 bricks of federal .22 ammo run through it. It was a second gen rifle and the breach was cracking already where the barrel was screwed in. |
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I know this if for the kids, but is it just for plinking or do they want to drive tacks? My vote would be for the AR.22 upper since it's so much fun, especially if you've got an extra lower sitting around. While I have a red dot on mine and haven't shot it with a scope, it appears very accurate. Probably not near as accurate as the 10/22 is w/ a good aftermarket barrel though. While the .22 upper is more expensive than a STOCK 10/22, it's not that much more than a tricked out 10/22 w/ threaded barrel (minus the lower and suppressor). Those BDM mags are a pain to load though.
Really, you can't go wrong w/ either, but you should probably get both! *Never shot a gsg. |
