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12/8/2008 4:08:03 PM EDT
Put the rifle threw chrono sat...5 shots I got this

2469
2515
2510
2442
2515

How do I come up with a average to punch in calculator to get a dope card
12/8/2008 4:11:30 PM EDT
[#1]
Add the 5 together and divide by 5 for the average.
12/8/2008 4:15:14 PM EDT
[#2]
i'll do it for you Mike. Your average is 1850 fps, so punch in 1850 on your dope card. Your elevation at 500 yards should be around 17 MOA...
 Mike, that's way too slow for me the factory Federal GMM and Blackhills are around 2650. My .308 with 155 Scenar chrono at 2950 out of my GAP with good group. Allen chrono my ammo with his rifle at 3150 fps,but he said didn't shoot for group yet.
12/8/2008 4:15:25 PM EDT
[#3]
What ammo?
12/8/2008 4:18:05 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
i'll do it for you Mike. Your average is 1850 fps, so punch in 1850 on your dope card. Your elevation at 500 yards should be around 17 MOA...


LOL smart ass....I actually tryed not to shoot your chrono

Sone its my reloads for my .308
12/8/2008 4:39:23 PM EDT
[#5]
its 2490 on average ............  Joe says thats too slow ..... need to bump it up to atleast 2600.  


AND throw away those damn dippers and get a freaking scale.

12/8/2008 4:45:24 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
its 2490 on average ............  Joe says thats too slow ..... need to bump it up to atleast 2600.  


AND throw away those damn dippers and get a freaking scale.



I got some different powder I wana try, but I didnt have time to load anything up with it...
I measured out 48 grains of Varget and it damn near filled up the case gotta do some more digging
12/8/2008 4:50:16 PM EDT
[#7]
I was gonna say you need to bump it to about 2600 if its a 20 inch barrel
12/8/2008 4:53:16 PM EDT
[#8]
Well Fro man I think you are gonna be on your own this go round ...... but then again I dont know.  I think I might just have to shoot Joes gun this time round.


He said that I couldnt shoot my cannon cause it will tear up his steel plates.   I said hell you dont have to worry about me even hitting the damn things.
12/8/2008 4:56:19 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Well Fro man I think you are gonna be on your own this go round ...... but then again I dont know.  I think I might just have to shoot Joes gun this time round.


He said that I couldnt shoot my cannon cause it will tear up his steel plates.   I said hell you dont have to worry about me even hitting the damn things.



Aww come on I wont run



Nunn I might have your toy a lil while longer if u dont care...if u need it ill bring it on back thu
12/8/2008 7:49:52 PM EDT
[#10]
That's way too slow for a 175SMK if that's what you're shooting-and 48 grains of Varget for that bullet is way too much.

With a 20" barrel, 2600fps should be a target. You may get it a smidge faster than that, but you'll be in an ideal zone in that area.
12/8/2008 8:16:52 PM EDT
[#11]
2621 w/ 168 Fed GM for me
12/9/2008 2:44:49 AM EDT
[#12]
dude if you are loading 48 gr of varget under a 175 SMK and getting those numbers something is waaaaayyy wrong! i load alot of 308 for my PALMA rifle. 44gr should put you around 2700. 46gr pushes a 155 SMK to 2950 ot of a 32 in barrel.
12/9/2008 6:29:04 AM EDT
[#13]
I use RE15, but I am getting 2675 fps out of a 20" using a 190 SMK and 43.5 grains.  There is some very slight brass flow but the cases seem to hold up to the pressure very nicely.
12/9/2008 8:51:01 AM EDT
[#14]
I guess I threw to much stuff out there...I have the varget but havent tryed it yet...I found a load under Hodgons web site and it called for 48 grains of varget...I put in 46 and it damn near filled the case so I didnt use it...


Load Im running now that got me those #'s
43.4 grains of BL-C(2)
175gr Sierria
CCI Primers

20 in barrel with a Can
12/9/2008 11:59:11 AM EDT
[#15]
Don't use the 48gn varget load with a 175smk!! That is hotter than most use in their palma rifle with 155's!!

45gn of varget with the 175SMK is about the max you can safely run in most rifles.
12/9/2008 1:53:42 PM EDT
[#16]

     


Cartridge:  308 Winchester
Load Type:  Rifle
Starting Loads

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Bullet Weight (Gr.) Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure      

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175 GR. SIE HPBT  Hodgdon  Varget  .308"  2.800"  42.0  2583  42,600 CUP  45.0C  2690  48,600 CUP        

 
So this says with 42grs of Varget it should be at 2583 ft/s
 
     
12/9/2008 4:08:57 PM EDT
[#17]
Mike, we need to get together at Creekside one weekend. I'll bring my rifle and some of the load that I got left over to try on your rifle.
I'm happy with 155 Scenar, 45.5 gr of H4895 with either Rem or Lapau brass.
12/9/2008 4:13:53 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Mike, we need to get together at Creekside one weekend. I'll bring my rifle and some of the load that I got left over to try on your rifle.
I'm happy with 155 Scenar, 45.5 gr of H4895 with either Rem or Lapau brass.


I thought about going 168's these 175's are $$$ and a bitch to find without ordering...
12/9/2008 4:16:50 PM EDT
[#19]
you both come out sat so I ban give you hell
12/9/2008 4:32:49 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
you both come out sat so I ban give you hell


nunn is getting shot at by joe with paintballs and im working
12/9/2008 7:44:18 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Mike, we need to get together at Creekside one weekend. I'll bring my rifle and some of the load that I got left over to try on your rifle.
I'm happy with 155 Scenar, 45.5 gr of H4895 with either Rem or Lapau brass.


I thought about going 168's these 175's are $$$ and a bitch to find without ordering...



So order them-they're usually cheaper than what you'll find locally anyway. I'd give up a 175SMK for a 155grn bullet-but I wouldn't for a 168SMK.
12/10/2008 6:12:46 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Mike, we need to get together at Creekside one weekend. I'll bring my rifle and some of the load that I got left over to try on your rifle.
I'm happy with 155 Scenar, 45.5 gr of H4895 with either Rem or Lapau brass.


I thought about going 168's these 175's are $$$ and a bitch to find without ordering...



So order them-they're usually cheaper than what you'll find locally anyway. I'd give up a 175SMK for a 155grn bullet-but I wouldn't for a 168SMK.


what would be good/bad of going to a 155?
12/10/2008 6:49:14 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:

what would be good/bad of going to a 155?


    You can push a 155 much faster than a 175SMK. A 155 Lapua Scenar, while advertised as having a higher BC than a 175SMK, in reality (and Jason can confirm this) it's about on par with the 175SMK's BC. So basically you're taking a bullet with the same flight aerodynamicness (is that a word?) of the 175SMK and pushing it much faster. The result is much less drop and better wind performance at long range.

    The Scenar is generally recognized as the 155grn bullet to go with as it has the higher BC compared to the 155SMK, Nosler or A-Max. I personally have switched (or I should say am switching, since load development isn't done yet) to the 155 Nosler Custom Competition as it has a decent BC (on par with the 155SMK) but is significantly cheaper than both the 175SMK and 155 Scenar-to the tune of $23 per 100.

     I used to use the Berger bullets pretty heavily-even as their prices increased, but they've priced themselves out of the market now and I won't buy the products. I'm wanting something so that I can get as much practice as I can for a good price. Striving for the perfect 1000yd load, when the nearest 1000yd range is several hours away is no longer a requirement for me and if I can get great performance out to 700yds or so, then that's perfect-and ballistic data is showing that I should be able to do just that with the 155 Nosler out of a shorter barrel.
12/10/2008 8:14:17 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:

what would be good/bad of going to a 155?


    You can push a 155 much faster than a 175SMK. A 155 Lapua Scenar, while advertised as having a higher BC than a 175SMK, in reality (and Jason can confirm this) it's about on par with the 175SMK's BC. So basically you're taking a bullet with the same flight aerodynamicness (is that a word?) of the 175SMK and pushing it much faster. The result is much less drop and better wind performance at long range.

    The Scenar is generally recognized as the 155grn bullet to go with as it has the higher BC compared to the 155SMK, Nosler or A-Max. I personally have switched (or I should say am switching, since load development isn't done yet) to the 155 Nosler Custom Competition as it has a decent BC (on par with the 155SMK) but is significantly cheaper than both the 175SMK and 155 Scenar-to the tune of $23 per 100.

     I used to use the Berger bullets pretty heavily-even as their prices increased, but they've priced themselves out of the market now and I won't buy the products. I'm wanting something so that I can get as much practice as I can for a good price. Striving for the perfect 1000yd load, when the nearest 1000yd range is several hours away is no longer a requirement for me and if I can get great performance out to 700yds or so, then that's perfect-and ballistic data is showing that I should be able to do just that with the 155 Nosler out of a shorter barrel.



Bill thanks Ill look into the 155's I like the $ ...$35 per 100 gets pricey...were are u finding them? Midway?
12/10/2008 8:34:43 AM EDT
[#25]
I think im gona order up some 155's
Hodgons web site shows

155 with 44grs of Varget behind it should be around 2700fps

Anybody else got any other ideas Im all ears
12/10/2008 8:50:07 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
I think im gona order up some 155's
Hodgons web site shows

155 with 44grs of Varget behind it should be around 2700fps

Anybody else got any other ideas Im all ears


Learn toshoot your rifle ........ thats my idea
12/10/2008 8:54:38 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I think im gona order up some 155's
Hodgons web site shows

155 with 44grs of Varget behind it should be around 2700fps

Anybody else got any other ideas Im all ears


Learn toshoot your rifle ........ thats my idea



Im getting there assmonkey