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5/31/2007 1:27:34 PM EDT
Does anyone know any good FAL smiths, preferably in the Atlanta area? Thanks.
5/31/2007 1:29:46 PM EDT
[#1]
Tony @ http://mandmgunsmithing.com/ comes to mind but there appears to be problems getting ahold of him.
5/31/2007 4:59:34 PM EDT
[#2]

What do you need done?
6/1/2007 6:35:44 AM EDT
[#3]
A buddy of mine built two, but he ran into some problems- I think with the gas system.  He had also mentioned worn parts.  Let me get some specifics, and I'll be back with more info.  Thanks.
6/1/2007 7:40:00 AM EDT
[#4]

Plenty of folks here in GA who know the FAL well.  Many of us have all the fancy tools and such also.

Get some definition of the problem and we can go from there.
6/2/2007 9:23:19 AM EDT
[#5]
This is what my buddy says-

Cycling problem.  Upon firing the bolt disconnects out of battery but does not come back far enough to eject.  I feel like it is a gas problem because I have polished the chamber so I don't think it is a rough chamber issue.  Also, the gas tube occasionally comes loose (obviously bad) so I want to replace or repair that.

He had also mentioned a "handhuard retention ring" that may be worn.  Any ideas?  Thanks, again.
6/3/2007 6:52:21 PM EDT
[#6]
The gas tube shoud NOT come loose.  If it is, it is possible that

1. The gas tube is not properly installed.
2. The gas tube to gas block threads are stripped on the gas tube because some one did not take out the gas tube retaining pin.
3. You don't have a gas tube retaing pin installed.
4. Do you know how to adjust the gas system on the rifle?
5. Is it a Century?

Just where does your friend live?

Buzz.
6/3/2007 7:13:49 PM EDT
[#7]

Buzz is right...if the tube is coming loose, you have a gas problem.

Lots of possible fixes, need to see the weapon to be sure.

Where is it located?

I am in Dawsonville.
6/4/2007 3:07:51 PM EDT
[#8]
Just north of you- Dahlonega.
6/4/2007 4:53:51 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Buzz is right...if the tube is coming loose, you have a gas problem.

Lots of possible fixes, need to see the weapon to be sure.

Where is it located?

I am in Dawsonville.



stimpsonjcat knows his FALs.  



stimsonjcat, you going to shoot the RBGC 3 gun on the 30th and the SRGC on the 1st of July?

6/5/2007 2:03:33 PM EDT
[#10]

I will probably make the RBGC 3-gun, of course, but not sure if I can sneak two days of shooting into the shcedule.

How much fun is the Benning match?
6/8/2007 8:34:29 PM EDT
[#11]

Stimpsonjcat, my friend got in touch with you.  I'm looking forward to meeting you, too.
6/9/2007 8:27:11 AM EDT
[#12]
Hmm, do you have the pin that holds the gas tube in the front?

it could simply be that.  If not, Stimpy would take care of you.
6/9/2007 5:01:51 PM EDT
[#13]
f.  Gas System Installation
Inspect your components!  This cannot be overstressed.  When fully assembled, the gas tube's rotation in the gas block is arrested by a small pin driven through a hole in the gas block. This pin is only visible if the gas adjustment ring is almost completely unscrewed from the gas block.  With
  the pin removed, the threaded portion of the gas tube readily screws into and out of the gas block. When the pin is installed, the gas tube requires a great deal of effort to turn.  Unfortunately, many rifles have had the gas tube forcibly removed with the pin in place by those unaware of its presence.  The result is that the threads at the front of the gas tube are compressed leading to a stepped,  
worn appearance.  This adversely affects function in the following ways:
 
The gas tube is no longer held firmly in place by the pin, and may rotate.  This can cause the gas port to close regardless of the gas adjustment ring setting.
The gas piston may bind in the tube, which may have been slightly narrowed at the front.
The gas tube may no longer provide an effective seal in the gas block resulting in gas blow by and failures to function.

A BAD gas tube:


A GOOD gas tube:



If you see evidence of this "gas tube abuse," your best bet is to order a new gas tube.  
A second point of inspection is to make sure that the gas tube retaining pin is included with your kit.  If not, don't worry. A 1/2" length of 5/64" roll pin works just fine as a replacement.

Our first step was to screw the gas adjustment ring onto the gas block.  This part goes on with the stepped edge of the ring forward.  Next the gas adjustment ring spring (the small U-shaped piece of wire with bent-in tips) was muscled into position.  Note that there are two small troughs on the sides of the gas block for the spring's arms, and two small holes for the tips. Then we backed the gas ring off until the gas tube retaining pin hole was visible on both sides of the gas block.

The gas tube, with the rear bushing/support was then screwed into the gas block as far as it would go, and the rear bushing/support into the receiver. (Note that the ease or lack thereof of screwing the rear bushing into the receiver is an indication of how well the barrel and receiver are indexed.)  The gas piston, spring, and plug were then installed.  

Next, we looked down at the gas port and slowly unscrewed the gas tube until we could see the silver gas piston completely filling the port (1/8 to 1/2 turn).  While holding the tube in this position, the gas tube retaining pin was gently tapped into place and seated with a pin punch.

Finally, the gas adjustment ring was screwed all the way on, and then backed up to the fully "open" position to insure that the gas tube retaining pin wasn't binding.

Pictures and text were "borrowed" from www.cruffler.com/trivia-April01-assembly.html

An old but very informative site for Fal's

Hope this helps.

Buzz.
6/14/2007 12:39:34 PM EDT
[#14]

This was precisely the problem, someone had screwed/unscrewed the tube with the retention pin in place, very common.

I put a new tube on it and I think it's gas problems will be gone.

Nice guys, I hope I helped them out and I hope they don't get my cold.
6/16/2007 10:23:29 AM EDT
[#15]
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stimpsonjcat knows his FALs.  





He does.  I just wanted to say thanks for the help.  Owen went to test fire today... hopefully they'll work.  Let me know if there's anything I can help you with.