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6/5/2009 7:03:09 PM EDT
I know that NC is an open carry state... but does that apply to visitors from out of state as well, or only residents?



Basically what I am trying to get at is this... I am visiting for a couple of weeks on business, can I open carry?  



To answer the question before it is asked... No, I do not have my TN Handgun Carry Permit (HCP)... yet. (In TN, you need to have your HCP in order to carry, either open or concealed.)



Thanks in advance.
6/5/2009 8:28:27 PM EDT
[#1]
NC law does not specifically ban open carry, thus it is legal... if you are legally allowed to possess a gun in NC, you can also open carry a handgun...

some cities have restrictions on OC on city property, and at least one city has a barrel length minimum...
6/5/2009 8:35:50 PM EDT
[#2]
What area are you visiting?  It can make a big difference on how your OC is received.
6/6/2009 8:43:12 AM EDT
[#3]
I am in Fayetteville, with a 3 inch barrel.  I would rather CC, but as I said... I dont take the class till later this month back in TN, then I gotta wait for the beaurocrats to snip some red tape and get my card out to me.
6/6/2009 4:32:11 PM EDT
[#4]
For the love of god do not OC in asheville....Tha hippies and freaks go bonkers...
6/6/2009 5:00:08 PM EDT
[#5]
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For the love of god do not OC in asheville....Tha hippies and freaks go bonkers...

LOL... yeah... gotta love that, friggin lib-tards.  

Nice Torri BTW... I take it u were stationed at Campbell?  Thats where I'm from, served 5 years with the 101st... now I work on post as one o those useless civilians I always used to complain about! (I try to be useful )
6/6/2009 7:33:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Don't do it.  Its not so much about what you can or cannot do but what you should do.  Be smart and don't invite trouble into your life.  Most folks will do what is necessary to keep themselves safe.  Whether that is legal or not.  I open carry in the woods, in my yard and at the medical office my wife and I own.  Open carry in populated areas is really just plain ignorant.

Now if you mean open carry in a car, then that's fine.  Its the open carry on your hip in public that is going to get attention.
6/7/2009 2:46:02 AM EDT
[#7]
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Don't do it.  Its not so much about what you can or cannot do but what you should do.  Be smart and don't invite trouble into your life.  Most folks will do what is necessary to keep themselves safe.  Whether that is legal or not.  I open carry in the woods, in my yard and at the medical office my wife and I own.  Open carry in populated areas is really just plain ignorant.

Now if you mean open carry in a car, then that's fine.  Its the open carry on your hip in public that is going to get attention.


ig·no·rance - Noun-  lack of knowledge, education, or awareness

been open carrying for well over a year without any problems... i guess us ignorant folks just dont notice all the people freaking out about it...

funny thing is, most people that open carry are especially educated about state laws because of the possibility of encountering a LEO that IS actually ignorant about state law...
6/7/2009 10:44:09 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
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Don't do it.  Its not so much about what you can or cannot do but what you should do.  Be smart and don't invite trouble into your life.  Most folks will do what is necessary to keep themselves safe.  Whether that is legal or not.  I open carry in the woods, in my yard and at the medical office my wife and I own.  Open carry in populated areas is really just plain ignorant.

Now if you mean open carry in a car, then that's fine.  Its the open carry on your hip in public that is going to get attention.


ig·no·rance - Noun-  lack of knowledge, education, or awareness

been open carrying for well over a year without any problems... i guess us ignorant folks just dont notice all the people freaking out about it...

funny thing is, most people that open carry are especially educated about state laws because of the possibility of encountering a LEO that IS actually ignorant about state law...


Gotta agree here..i have never had problems with open carry....
6/7/2009 10:44:56 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
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For the love of god do not OC in asheville....Tha hippies and freaks go bonkers...

LOL... yeah... gotta love that, friggin lib-tards.  

Nice Torri BTW... I take it u were stationed at Campbell?  Thats where I'm from, served 5 years with the 101st... now I work on post as one o those useless civilians I always used to complain about! (I try to be useful )


Yep, 2/187... Did a few years with them and a couple of deployments too....
6/7/2009 11:58:03 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
For the love of god do not OC in asheville....Tha hippies and freaks go bonkers...


So Asheville bans open carry?
6/7/2009 11:58:31 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Don't do it.  Its not so much about what you can or cannot do but what you should do.  Be smart and don't invite trouble into your life.  Most folks will do what is necessary to keep themselves safe.  Whether that is legal or not.  I open carry in the woods, in my yard and at the medical office my wife and I own.  Open carry in populated areas is really just plain ignorant.

Now if you mean open carry in a car, then that's fine.  Its the open carry on your hip in public that is going to get attention.


Do you want it to be illegal?
6/7/2009 12:25:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
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For the love of god do not OC in asheville....Tha hippies and freaks go bonkers...


So Asheville bans open carry?


Nobody said that.

But the place is hippie leftist belly of the liberal beast esp. downtown. I know...I spent four years there while in college.
6/7/2009 3:21:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
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For the love of god do not OC in asheville....Tha hippies and freaks go bonkers...


So Asheville bans open carry?


No, But tha hippies go ape crap when they see a gun!!
6/7/2009 3:49:10 PM EDT
[#14]
From my experiences, I wouldn't recommend open carrying in Cary.

YMMV
6/7/2009 4:19:13 PM EDT
[#15]
Open carry may be legal, but freaking out residents is called "going armed to the terror of the public"

It's like...we aren't banning open carry, but if you do it, and people call the police, you may get arrested to scaring people.  Something like that.
6/7/2009 4:21:34 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
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Don't do it.  Its not so much about what you can or cannot do but what you should do.  Be smart and don't invite trouble into your life.  Most folks will do what is necessary to keep themselves safe.  Whether that is legal or not.  I open carry in the woods, in my yard and at the medical office my wife and I own.  Open carry in populated areas is really just plain ignorant.

Now if you mean open carry in a car, then that's fine.  Its the open carry on your hip in public that is going to get attention.


Do you want it to be illegal?


That is irrelevant. The issue is drawing unwanted attention to one's self.
6/7/2009 5:00:17 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Open carry may be legal, but freaking out residents is called "going armed to the terror of the public"

It's like...we aren't banning open carry, but if you do it, and people call the police, you may get arrested to scaring people.  Something like that.


No the legal and lawfull act of OC does not constitute going armed to the terror of the public just because some idiot gets scared pisses his/hers pants and calls the law.
6/7/2009 6:18:53 PM EDT
[#18]
The problem lies where your well-being may very well depend on some idiot's inability to tell reality from fantasy...as in their unbridled zest for embellishment.

"911 what is your emgergency?"

"OMFG THERE IS A MAN...WITH A GUN...AND HE'S WAVING IT AROUND AND POINTING IT AT PEOPLE!!!!!"

When the truth is some guy's OCing on his way into the hardware store to buy some lag bolts, a box of nails, and some varnish.

People...some of them...are just plain ****ing sneaky and will create any amount of drama to satisfy their need for self-aggrandizement.

North Carolina is not Wyoming...or Montana....or North Dakota.

6/7/2009 6:32:32 PM EDT
[#19]
I'd probably avoid it in the larger cities, but see people OC all the time in the sticks.
6/7/2009 6:45:31 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:

North Carolina is not Wyoming...or Montana....or North Dakota.



thats the point.

you can oc in most parts of nc, but it may mean dealing with a hassle, depending on where you take (IE denser pop areas) it you might almost guarantee having to take time out of your day.  I would not recommend it unless you are going to be in a situation where its actually likely you will need it.
but its your choice
6/7/2009 6:53:33 PM EDT
[#21]
BTW I'm not against OC but I am a big fan of the idea that discretion is the better part of valor.
6/7/2009 7:06:26 PM EDT
[#22]
I teach a Concealed Carry class myself and about the only time I OC is on days I do the class. I will OC with the class out to eat lunch and to the range. I invite anyone in the class who is comfortable with the idea to OC also. I am in Fayetteville also.
6/8/2009 4:39:42 AM EDT
[#23]
I've never had problems with OC in Raleigh or Cary. Had a Wally World cashier in Garner get a bit fidgety one day, but that's the worst I've encountered.
6/8/2009 6:38:44 AM EDT
[#24]





Quoted:



BTW I'm not against OC but I am a big fan of the idea that discretion is the better part of valor.



Totally with you on that.  It is not a big deal at this point... I pretty much stay at the hotel anyways.  The only reason I was asking is if I found myself needing to go do laundry in the evening or something, as I am in somewhat of a seedy area.  I cannot CC at this point, and I knew that NC was an OC state... so I was just verifying that I, as a guest to the state could OC also.  





I appreciate all the response you guys have given.  Thanx!





 
6/8/2009 2:28:42 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
The problem lies where your well-being may very well depend on some idiot's inability to tell reality from fantasy...as in their unbridled zest for embellishment.

"911 what is your emgergency?"

"OMFG THERE IS A MAN...WITH A GUN...AND HE'S WAVING IT AROUND AND POINTING IT AT PEOPLE!!!!!"

When the truth is some guy's OCing on his way into the hardware store to buy some lag bolts, a box of nails, and some varnish.

People...some of them...are just plain ****ing sneaky and will create any amount of drama to satisfy their need for self-aggrandizement.

North Carolina is not Wyoming...or Montana....or North Dakota.




while i understand what you are saying... can you show me an example of that ever happening here in NC?

sure i have heard of people having to answer a bunch of questions from uninformed LEO's, even a couple that found themselves in custody... but i have yet to hear of a case where it was anything other than a LEO that wasnt clear about the law...
6/8/2009 2:31:35 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Open carry may be legal, but freaking out residents is called "going armed to the terror of the public"

It's like...we aren't banning open carry, but if you do it, and people call the police, you may get arrested to scaring people.  Something like that.


No the legal and lawfull act of OC does not constitute going armed to the terror of the public just because some idiot gets scared pisses his/hers pants and calls the law.


correct, the LEO guide for GATTOP specifically states:

"Elements - A person is guilty of this offense if:
(1) he arms himself with unusual and dangerous weapons
(2) for the purpose of terrifying others
(3) and goes about on public highways
(4) in a manner to cause terror to others."


my understanding is that all 4 elements have to happen for this to be charged... in the last two years, i have seen it charged 2 times... one was a robbery of a gas station where it was lumped on to other charges... the other was for a guy in a police standoff that threatened the cops with a grenade...
6/8/2009 5:21:29 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Don't do it.  Its not so much about what you can or cannot do but what you should do.  Be smart and don't invite trouble into your life.  Most folks will do what is necessary to keep themselves safe.  Whether that is legal or not.  I open carry in the woods, in my yard and at the medical office my wife and I own.  Open carry in populated areas is really just plain ignorant.

Now if you mean open carry in a car, then that's fine.  Its the open carry on your hip in public that is going to get attention.


Do you want it to be illegal?


That is irrelevant. The issue is drawing unwanted attention to one's self.


No it is not.

You want it banned
6/8/2009 6:35:34 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Don't do it.  Its not so much about what you can or cannot do but what you should do.  Be smart and don't invite trouble into your life.  Most folks will do what is necessary to keep themselves safe.  Whether that is legal or not.  I open carry in the woods, in my yard and at the medical office my wife and I own.  Open carry in populated areas is really just plain ignorant.

Now if you mean open carry in a car, then that's fine.  Its the open carry on your hip in public that is going to get attention.


Do you want it to be illegal?


That is irrelevant. The issue is drawing unwanted attention to one's self.


No it is not.

You want it banned


Where in this thread have I ever said "I think open carry should be banned".  NOWHERE.

In SC it's a useless argument because OC is already illegal except for a very limited circumstances.

6/8/2009 7:23:59 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
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The problem lies where your well-being may very well depend on some idiot's inability to tell reality from fantasy...as in their unbridled zest for embellishment.

"911 what is your emgergency?"

"OMFG THERE IS A MAN...WITH A GUN...AND HE'S WAVING IT AROUND AND POINTING IT AT PEOPLE!!!!!"

When the truth is some guy's OCing on his way into the hardware store to buy some lag bolts, a box of nails, and some varnish.

People...some of them...are just plain ****ing sneaky and will create any amount of drama to satisfy their need for self-aggrandizement.

North Carolina is not Wyoming...or Montana....or North Dakota.




while i understand what you are saying... can you show me an example of that ever happening here in NC?


I can only refer you to an incident posted to another gun board where a small business owner in in a strip mall the Charlotte area got a visit from local LE after someone called in to report "a man with a gun and he's waving it around". The store was OC and walking from his vehicle to his place of business after returning from lunch. According to what the person posted, the individual who called 911 was a middle aged woman and her teenage daughter. She didn't get arrested (for filing a false report) so the poster claimed but was given a stern lecture.  Sorry, but I am unable to provide a link but you're free to spend the next several months searching GT if you think you can find it.

My experiece in both marketing/sales and as a reserve LEO I can tell you that I have seen too many people twist and lie and embellish just about anything in order to get their way...or get someone else in trouble.

6/8/2009 9:10:29 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The problem lies where your well-being may very well depend on some idiot's inability to tell reality from fantasy...as in their unbridled zest for embellishment.

"911 what is your emgergency?"

"OMFG THERE IS A MAN...WITH A GUN...AND HE'S WAVING IT AROUND AND POINTING IT AT PEOPLE!!!!!"

When the truth is some guy's OCing on his way into the hardware store to buy some lag bolts, a box of nails, and some varnish.

People...some of them...are just plain ****ing sneaky and will create any amount of drama to satisfy their need for self-aggrandizement.

North Carolina is not Wyoming...or Montana....or North Dakota.




while i understand what you are saying... can you show me an example of that ever happening here in NC?


I can only refer you to an incident posted to another gun board where a small business owner in in a strip mall the Charlotte area got a visit from local LE after someone called in to report "a man with a gun and he's waving it around". The store was OC and walking from his vehicle to his place of business after returning from lunch. According to what the person posted, the individual who called 911 was a middle aged woman and her teenage daughter. She didn't get arrested (for filing a false report) so the poster claimed but was given a stern lecture.  Sorry, but I am unable to provide a link but you're free to spend the next several months searching GT if you think you can find it.

My experiece in both marketing/sales and as a reserve LEO I can tell you that I have seen too many people twist and lie and embellish just about anything in order to get their way...or get someone else in trouble.



ok but even in that case, the guy didnt get in trouble...

the only cases ive heard of where people got arrested for open carrying were in GA or VA... Dan Moore in Norfolk VA that has been arrested for OC has been arrested like 3 times... most likely because he is a black man and the LEOs get "black guy with a gun calls"... he won suits the first two time and as far as i know he is still in litigation on the 3rd... the case in GA was a case where someone was open carrying on the train and a LEO arrested him... turns out the train is public property and thus OC cant be banned there... so he won his case too...

sorry to argue, but when people become afraid to exercise a right because of the potential hassles, they start to loose that right...
6/9/2009 12:09:43 PM EDT
[#31]
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From my experiences, I wouldn't recommend open carrying in Cary.

YMMV



What was your experience in Cary?

Just curious.


Konger
6/9/2009 2:01:51 PM EDT
[#32]
^ Same here. I go out in Cary w/ OC all the time.