Posted: 1/15/2007 10:00:38 AM EDT
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With all due respect, I submit the following responce to your above post: State Representative, thinking to him/herself: "HOLY CRAP!!! SOMEONE WANTS TO "COLLECT" A MACHINE GUN!!!" He/she clean out their pants, calms down, and thinks "Thank God the peons in NC can only get C3 weapons for Experimental or Research reasons!" Rep runs off to gather his/her lawyers to draft a more restrictive bill that 99% of the sheep in NC like, since it limits the purchase and/or ownership of those evil weapons that jump out of my safe on a whim and kill multitudes of innocent people, withought a passing glance from the person who jumped through all the hoops to legally acquire said weapon. I get the prize for run on sentence of the day! Noone is safe!hock.gif The Experimental/Research thing is all we've got. Let's not muck it up. I like it that you're thinking about getting the gun laws in NC to relate to the real world of fact, but we, the firearms enthusiasts, don't live in the real world. We live in the world imposed on us by 99% of the population. I hate it, but I don't think that's ever going to change. |
Wow. Didn't mean for that to happen. I've seen your posts, and truly believe that you've put a lot of thought and research into all of them. I was playing Devil's Advocate with my reply. Maybe a bad decision on my part, for my first post.hinking.gif If we're going to bring up MG's to our Reps, why not make it something worth fighting for? We can own C3 toys via Experimental/Research on the Form 1 or Form 4. A minor change in wording that doesn't affect whether we can, or cannot, get the weapon transferred doesn't seem worth raising a ruckus over. If you'll draft a letter proposing a Shall Issue change in legislation, I'll hand deliver it to my local Reps, and a Sherrif or two. Shall Issue might be worth fighting for, since it would open up Title 2 weapons to a whole bunch of folks that can't get a sign off from their local CLEO/leftleaning tard IM incoming |
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I think shall issue is good thing but maybe unrealistic? HOWEVER if we push for shall issue, we can always compromise to may issue and still be much better off in the machine gun ownership department. Lots of sheriffs in NC won't signoff on machine gun permits. Under the 'Weapon's of Mass Death and Destruction' statute a licensed collector may own fully automatic weapons. I was merely thinking that exemption should be placed into statute 14-409 as well. I will post a copy of my proposal soon. CRC |
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THE STATUTE: ยง 14 409. Machine guns and other like weapons. (a) As used in this section, "machine gun" or "submachine gun" means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a weapon into a machine gun, and any combination of parts from which a machine gun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person. (b) It shall be unlawful for any person, firm or corporation to manufacture, sell, give away, dispose of, use or possess machine guns, submachine guns, or other like weapons as defined by subsection (a) of this section: Provided, however, that this subsection shall not apply to the following: Banks, merchants, and recognized business establishments for use in their respective places of business, who shall first apply to and receive from the sheriff of the county in which said business is located, a permit to possess the said weapons for the purpose of defending the said business; officers and soldiers of the United States Army, when in discharge of their official duties, officers and soldiers of the militia when called into actual service, officers of the State, or of any county, city or town, charged with the execution of the laws of the State, when acting in the discharge of their official duties; the manufacture, use or possession of such weapons for scientific or experimental purposes when such manufacture, use or possession is lawful under federal laws and the weapon is registered with a federal agency, and when a permit to manufacture, use or possess the weapon is issued by the sheriff of the county in which the weapon is located. Provided, further, that any bona fide resident of this State who now owns a machine gun used in former wars, as a relic or souvenir, may retain and keep same as his or her property without violating the provisions of this section upon his reporting said ownership to the sheriff of the county in which said person lives. (c) Any person violating any of the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class I felony. (1933, c. 261, s. 1; 1959, c. 1073, s. 2; 1965, c. 1200; 1989, c. 680, s. 1; 1993, c. 539, s. 1243; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c); 1999 456, s. 33(b).) Section to add: Any collector of machine guns, submachine guns, (or other like weapons covered under this statute) shall be permitted to own and possess the same if such ownership and possession is allowed under federal law. |