Posted: 1/20/2015 7:14:06 PM EDT
Had bought a Savage Bmag chambered in .17WSM probably about 18 months ago. I've only taken it out two times to go shoot it at GoGop's house in that time frame. Out of 50 rounds fired, 7 of them looked like this.
Finally got off my butt a few months back and talked to Debbie at Savage. After our second email, she said she would have UPS come by my house and pick up the rifle. I just needed to box it up. Two days later UPS came by and picked it up. Fast forward two months and I get a my rifle back from Savage. I open up the box only to find a different rifle in the box. I scratch my head and finally found the paperwork from Savage. They sent me a brand new rifle and even included a Bushnell scope. 
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Out of curiosity ... did they transfer the serial number from the old to the new? (The correct answer is yes, btw. If the answer is anything BUT yes, don't answer.  )Why would they need to transfer the serial number? As long as they show the defective item booked in from Stiches for repair, they can book out another back to him as a replacement and ship it to his door... The only reason I can think of where you would need the same serial number as a replacement would be in the case of a title 2 weapon so it would match your paperwork. |
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Why would they need to transfer the serial number? As long as they show the defective item booked in from Stiches for repair, they can book out another back to him as a replacement and ship it to his door... The only reason I can think of where you would need the same serial number as a replacement would be in the case of a title 2 weapon so it would match your paperwork. Quoted:
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Out of curiosity ... did they transfer the serial number from the old to the new? (The correct answer is yes, btw. If the answer is anything BUT yes, don't answer. )Why would they need to transfer the serial number? As long as they show the defective item booked in from Stiches for repair, they can book out another back to him as a replacement and ship it to his door... The only reason I can think of where you would need the same serial number as a replacement would be in the case of a title 2 weapon so it would match your paperwork. Exactly what they did. I have on Savage letterhead stating they took in rifle serial #12345 and gave me serial# 54321 |
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Quoted: Exactly what they did. I have on Savage letterhead stating they took in rifle serial #12345 and gave me serial# 54321 Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Out of curiosity ... did they transfer the serial number from the old to the new? (The correct answer is yes, btw. If the answer is anything BUT yes, don't answer. )Why would they need to transfer the serial number? As long as they show the defective item booked in from Stiches for repair, they can book out another back to him as a replacement and ship it to his door... The only reason I can think of where you would need the same serial number as a replacement would be in the case of a title 2 weapon so it would match your paperwork. Exactly what they did. I have on Savage letterhead stating they took in rifle serial #12345 and gave me serial# 54321 Wow! That's amazing that they found a rifle with the same serial number reversed!!!!
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The first rifle was in the 30k range and the new one is in the 90k range.
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Why would they need to transfer the serial number? As long as they show the defective item booked in from Stiches for repair, they can book out another back to him as a replacement and ship it to his door... The only reason I can think of where you would need the same serial number as a replacement would be in the case of a title 2 weapon so it would match your paperwork. Quoted:
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Out of curiosity ... did they transfer the serial number from the old to the new? (The correct answer is yes, btw. If the answer is anything BUT yes, don't answer. )Why would they need to transfer the serial number? As long as they show the defective item booked in from Stiches for repair, they can book out another back to him as a replacement and ship it to his door... The only reason I can think of where you would need the same serial number as a replacement would be in the case of a title 2 weapon so it would match your paperwork. Did some more research and I stand corrected. 18USC922(a)(2)(A):
(a) It shall be unlawful— (2) for any importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector licensed under the provisions of this chapter to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm to any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, except that— (A) this paragraph and subsection (b)(3) shall not be held to preclude a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector from returning a firearm or replacement firearm of the same kind and type to a person from whom it was received; and this paragraph shall not be held to preclude an individual from mailing a firearm owned in compliance with Federal, State, and local law to a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector; I've apparently read too many anecdotes of "my serial number was transferred to a new frame..." and "they needed my FFL to send my replacement to me". Mea culpa. 
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Quoted: Did some more research and I stand corrected. I've apparently read too many anecdotes of "my serial number was transferred to a new frame..." and "they needed my FFL to send my replacement to me". Mea culpa. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Out of curiosity ... did they transfer the serial number from the old to the new? (The correct answer is yes, btw. If the answer is anything BUT yes, don't answer. )Why would they need to transfer the serial number? As long as they show the defective item booked in from Stiches for repair, they can book out another back to him as a replacement and ship it to his door... The only reason I can think of where you would need the same serial number as a replacement would be in the case of a title 2 weapon so it would match your paperwork. Did some more research and I stand corrected. 18USC922(a)(2)(A): (a) It shall be unlawful— (2) for any importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector licensed under the provisions of this chapter to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm to any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, except that— (A) this paragraph and subsection (b)(3) shall not be held to preclude a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector from returning a firearm or replacement firearm of the same kind and type to a person from whom it was received; and this paragraph shall not be held to preclude an individual from mailing a firearm owned in compliance with Federal, State, and local law to a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector; I've apparently read too many anecdotes of "my serial number was transferred to a new frame..." and "they needed my FFL to send my replacement to me". Mea culpa. I didn't realize until a few weeks ago either. I shipped a handgun off for repair work & they shipped it straight back to my front porch when it was done. |
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Quoted: I didn't realize until a few weeks ago either. I shipped a handgun off for repair work & they shipped it straight back to my front porch when it was done. A couple days later the delivery driver stopped by and asked if I would mind signing for the package that he dropped off a couple days earlier. I looked at him, made this face,  , and said "What package?" He replied "Oh, so you want to play it like that?" Yes, I most certainly do. 
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I once shipped a gun back to Smith & Wesson for repair. They repaired it and shipped it back promptly with "Adult Signature Required" stickers on all six sides of the box. I came home to find the box wedged between the front door and the screen door. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Oh well, no harm, no foul. I did receive the repaired gun back. A couple days later the delivery driver stopped by and asked if I would mind signing for the package that he dropped off a couple days earlier. I looked at him, made this face, , and said "What package?" He replied "Oh, so you want to play it like that?" Yes, I most certainly do. I have awesome UPS and FEDEX drivers. Never an issue for the 3.5 years that I've lived here and they always follow the rules. I was in Florida while UPS tried to deliver my Savage for the 3 attempts and had 2 days to spare to pick it up at the UPS hub before it got sent back. Had all 3 stickers on my front door when I got home. Many times I've offered the drivers a soda or a small reprieve from the weather. None would accept it or set foot inside my home. |
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I didn't realize until a few weeks ago either. I shipped a handgun off for repair work & they shipped it straight back to my front porch when it was done. I knew they could do repairs without an FFL involved (although in the case of handguns, it's usually cheaper to just ship through an FFL), but I had thought a replacement needed an FFL involved. I was wrong. 
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