[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Well MOHTF (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/3/2014 10:09:22 PM EDT
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I have been absent for a while working on some projects.
First, I have been building a CNC plasma Table I purchased the Gantry from Precision Plasma LLC In Minnesota and I purchased the Electronics package from CandCNC in Texas. I built the base of the table and the water pan/slat bed. Drilled and Tapped the frame for the CRS Rails, Drilled the CRS Rails as well on the mill/drill. Steel from the local steel supply. A Co-Worker said "It Looks Almost Professionally Built" I said "Thanks... I think...." Pics
Video of it cutting Widgets from .090 3003 Aluminum Sheet. http://youtu.be/L-OE6hTrQqk My Brother in law broke the Alternator Bracket on his race car and needed it repaired. This is the Umpteenth time To "repair it... So I decided I would just make a NEW part. Well I scanned it into a .DXF file using my CNC table... and Sheetcam "Scanything" Then I "Fixed" it in CAD making it I believe SUPERIOR to the original...
Then I engraved the thing with his racing team name.
a "Supereyes B005" Camera from Amazon ($28) and the software from Sheetcam called "Scanything" WORKS GREAT! This is just a test but will be ultra handy when someone drags in a part they want duplicated or a pile of cardboard templates... http://youtu.be/ufJ20zdSzjE That is the Supereyes Camera on the right of the Z axis. the Silver tube...
more of that bracket
Wednesday evening I had a rush job come in, Client needed a flange for a fuel tank to mount the pump for an LS swap into a 71 Chevy Short box. This will go inside the tank to buck up against the sheet metal to beef it up a bit. He needs it by morning so I took some quick measurements designed it in CAD tool pathed it in Sheetcam, Swapped on the Plasma Cutter and chopped it from a remnant of 3/16 plate I had on hand. I let him off cheap since he is doing the swap for his dad. Yeller is a show truck he did for his dad a couple years back has been in World of Wheels and is a VERY clean truck. The Small holes were specified as 3/16 for a #10 machine screw. So 3/16 with plasma is tight, I didn't set it up to do a "Peck" center. I chased the holes with a twist drill and the drill press. You can see the DROSS in a couple of the pics but it is not that bad really. Mostly it just knocks off with a light tap. The Big thing is the SMOOTH cut edge. 30 Amps at 15IPM...
Pic of the Router.... Routing....
and a finished product for a client. it is a device used in Football (American) by referees. We actually handle this entire product from Birth to packaging. Cut from Aluminum Sheet, I get 144 out of a half sheet of stock 225 if I can get 5x5, Blank em out, Debur them blast, powder coat, engrave and blacken the engravings. About $.65 in materials... Deburring takes longer than any other operation, if making by hand one at a time this could take forever. We only have about 5 minutes in the actual hands on aspects, the CNC machine makes quick work of it! Before we would be blanking out the disk, Punching or drilling the holes, Stamping or subbing out the markings. By keeping it all "In House" it saves some money overall.
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cutting AR500 with a plasma is not a good idea, gets it too hot. Quoted:
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Are targets in your future? cutting AR500 with a plasma is not a good idea, gets it too hot. Not really, the HAZ is quite small if you use a water table. And it cuts a lot faster with the right machine. |
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Not really, the HAZ is quite small if you use a water table. And it cuts a lot faster with the right machine. Quoted:
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Are targets in your future? cutting AR500 with a plasma is not a good idea, gets it too hot. Not really, the HAZ is quite small if you use a water table. And it cuts a lot faster with the right machine. That's cool stuff. A buddy of mine got a plasmacam setup several months ago. I think it's more of a hobby setup than commercial. He's cut all kinds of neat looking stuff with his. |
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That's cool stuff. A buddy of mine got a plasmacam setup several months ago. I think it's more of a hobby setup than commercial. He's cut all kinds of neat looking stuff with his. Quoted:
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Are targets in your future? cutting AR500 with a plasma is not a good idea, gets it too hot. Not really, the HAZ is quite small if you use a water table. And it cuts a lot faster with the right machine. That's cool stuff. A buddy of mine got a plasmacam setup several months ago. I think it's more of a hobby setup than commercial. He's cut all kinds of neat looking stuff with his. How big? Plasmacam bottoms out at 4x4 @ $10k... Go Torch is plasmacam but about $3k and 2x2... No Torch Height Controller or Touch and go... Mine I built myself at about $7500 total, including Torch Height Control, all the licensed software etc. Was just a better deal for me all around. Sure I had to build it but I had a 4 week lead time on the electronics... so Plenty of time. And only about $180 in shipping VS 4-500 for a complete machine. By the way customer support from the folks I used. Second to none. I am still waiting for Lightning CNC to contact me about their machine.... (Crickets) Torchmate, Burntables, PlasmaCam, Lightning, and a few others were in the running but I ended up with more machine for less money this way. |
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How big? Plasmacam bottoms out at 4x4 @ $10k... Go Torch is plasmacam but about $3k and 2x2... No Torch Height Controller or Touch and go... Mine I built myself at about $7500 total, including Torch Height Control, all the licensed software etc. Was just a better deal for me all around. Sure I had to build it but I had a 4 week lead time on the electronics... so Plenty of time. And only about $180 in shipping VS 4-500 for a complete machine. By the way customer support from the folks I used. Second to none. I am still waiting for Lightning CNC to contact me about their machine.... (Crickets) Torchmate, Burntables, PlasmaCam, Lightning, and a few others were in the running but I ended up with more machine for less money this way. Quoted:
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Are targets in your future? cutting AR500 with a plasma is not a good idea, gets it too hot. Not really, the HAZ is quite small if you use a water table. And it cuts a lot faster with the right machine. That's cool stuff. A buddy of mine got a plasmacam setup several months ago. I think it's more of a hobby setup than commercial. He's cut all kinds of neat looking stuff with his. How big? Plasmacam bottoms out at 4x4 @ $10k... Go Torch is plasmacam but about $3k and 2x2... No Torch Height Controller or Touch and go... Mine I built myself at about $7500 total, including Torch Height Control, all the licensed software etc. Was just a better deal for me all around. Sure I had to build it but I had a 4 week lead time on the electronics... so Plenty of time. And only about $180 in shipping VS 4-500 for a complete machine. By the way customer support from the folks I used. Second to none. I am still waiting for Lightning CNC to contact me about their machine.... (Crickets) Torchmate, Burntables, PlasmaCam, Lightning, and a few others were in the running but I ended up with more machine for less money this way. I may have misspoken. I thought it was PlasmaCam, but I'll stop in this week to look closer. I'm not sure what it cost him, he said a lot and I didn't want to pry... He is mostly doing decorative sheetmetal right now, but he's been selling a decent amount of it. |
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That's cool stuff. A buddy of mine got a plasmacam setup several months ago. I think it's more of a hobby setup than commercial. He's cut all kinds of neat looking stuff with his.
How big? Plasmacam bottoms out at 4x4 @ $10k... Go Torch is plasmacam but about $3k and 2x2... No Torch Height Controller or Touch and go... Mine I built myself at about $7500 total, including Torch Height Control, all the licensed software etc. Was just a better deal for me all around. Sure I had to build it but I had a 4 week lead time on the electronics... so Plenty of time. And only about $180 in shipping VS 4-500 for a complete machine. By the way customer support from the folks I used. Second to none. I am still waiting for Lightning CNC to contact me about their machine.... (Crickets) Torchmate, Burntables, PlasmaCam, Lightning, and a few others were in the running but I ended up with more machine for less money this way. I may have misspoken. I thought it was PlasmaCam, but I'll stop in this week to look closer. I'm not sure what it cost him, he said a lot and I didn't want to pry... He is mostly doing decorative sheetmetal right now, but he's been selling a decent amount of it. Going with the concept of "People Buys Crap" I will be selling decorative crap too. Gun Cutouts, MFR signs and the like. Stupid Lawn Signs etc... Most folks say they can pay for their machine in 6 months. |
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Nice!!!! I've always wanted one of those, but I could never justify the time or expense as it would be just a hobby gadget and I have no legit idea what I'm doing with it... I'd prolly burn the house down... Just seems cool to be able to lay a sheet of metal in there and cut out a really accurate pattern. Quoted: I have been absent for a while working on some projects. First, I have been building a CNC plasma Table I purchased the Gantry from Precision Plasma LLC In Minnesota and I purchased the Electronics package from CandCNC in Texas. I built the base of the table and the water pan/slat bed. Drilled and Tapped the frame for the CRS Rails, Drilled the CRS Rails as well on the mill/drill. Steel from the local steel supply. A Co-Worker said "It Looks Professionally Built" I said "Thanks... I think...." Pics http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/DSC_0289_zps1dfb751d.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/DSC_0317_zpse22ceb94.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/DSC_0320_zps8c13d684.jpg Video of it cutting Widgets from .090 3003 Aluminum Sheet. http://youtu.be/L-OE6hTrQqk My Brother in law broke the Alternator Bracket on his race car and needed it repaired. This is the Umpteenth time To "repair it... So I decided I would just make a NEW part. Well I scanned it into a .DXF file using my CNC table... and Sheetcam "Scanything" Then I "Fixed" it in CAD making it I believe SUPERIOR to the original... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/Bracket_zps31ef15e1.jpg Then I engraved the thing with his racing team name. http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/DSC_0414_zps8615e1f1.jpg a "Supereyes B005" Camera from Amazon ($28) and the software from Sheetcam called "Scanything" WORKS GREAT! This is just a test but will be ultra handy when someone drags in a part they want duplicated or a pile of cardboard templates... http://youtu.be/ufJ20zdSzjE That is the Supereyes Camera on the right of the Z axis. the Silver tube... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/DSC_0374_zpsc8d57474.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/Untitled_zpsc1e42ee9.jpg more of that bracket http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/005_zpscc444653.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/007_zpsa8901247.jpg Wednesday evening I had a rush job come in, Client needed a flange for a fuel tank to mount the pump for an LS swap into a 71 Chevy Short box. This will go inside the tank to buck up against the sheet metal to beef it up a bit. He needs it by morning so I took some quick measurements designed it in CAD tool pathed it in Sheetcam, Swapped on the Plasma Cutter and chopped it from a remnant of 3/16 plate I had on hand. I let him off cheap since he is doing the swap for his dad. Yeller is a show truck he did for his dad a couple years back has been in World of Wheels and is a VERY clean truck. The Small holes were specified as 3/16 for a #10 machine screw. So 3/16 with plasma is tight, I didn't set it up to do a "Peck" center. I chased the holes with a twist drill and the drill press. You can see the DROSS in a couple of the pics but it is not that bad really. Mostly it just knocks off with a light tap. The Big thing is the SMOOTH cut edge. 30 Amps at 15IPM... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/ChipsFlangeDrawingandToolpathing_zpsc09995db.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/IMG_20140731_173451_879_zpsceb801ee.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/IMG_20140731_172039_814_zps5632e3d8.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/IMG_20140731_173637_263_zps9ad5700f.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/IMG_20140731_174414_170_zps52b23d58.jpg http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/IMG_20140731_182852_524_zps18a9513f.jpg Pic of the Router.... Routing.... http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/WidgetFixture_zps1ad62ed7.jpg and a finished product for a client. it is a device used in Football (American) by referees. We actually handle this entire product from Birth to packaging. Cut from Aluminum Sheet, I get 144 out of a half sheet of stock 225 if I can get 5x5, Blank em out, Debur them blast, powder coat, engrave and blacken the engravings. About $.65 in materials... Deburring takes longer than any other operation, if making by hand one at a time this could take forever. We only have about 5 minutes in the actual hands on aspects, the CNC machine makes quick work of it! Before we would be blanking out the disk, Punching or drilling the holes, Stamping or subbing out the markings. By keeping it all "In House" it saves some money overall. http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/AFSOC/EngravedWidget_zpsee4346b4.jpg |
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Nice!!!! I've always wanted one of those, but I could never justify the time or expense as it would be just a hobby gadget and I have no legit idea what I'm doing with it... I'd prolly burn the house down... Just seems cool to be able to lay a sheet of metal in there and cut out a really accurate pattern. Quoted: Quoted:
Nice!!!! I've always wanted one of those, but I could never justify the time or expense as it would be just a hobby gadget and I have no legit idea what I'm doing with it... I'd prolly burn the house down... Just seems cool to be able to lay a sheet of metal in there and cut out a really accurate pattern. Quoted: The Scanning function makes it even easier! Need to duplicate something? Got a pile of cardboard templates? Scan em in, Fix or change what needs to be, Create the CAM pathing and Burn it. |
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Quoted: The Scanning function makes it even easier! Need to duplicate something? Got a pile of cardboard templates? Scan em in, Fix or change what needs to be, Create the CAM pathing and Burn it. Quoted: Quoted: Nice!!!! I've always wanted one of those, but I could never justify the time or expense as it would be just a hobby gadget and I have no legit idea what I'm doing with it... I'd prolly burn the house down... Just seems cool to be able to lay a sheet of metal in there and cut out a really accurate pattern. Quoted: The Scanning function makes it even easier! Need to duplicate something? Got a pile of cardboard templates? Scan em in, Fix or change what needs to be, Create the CAM pathing and Burn it. I am a bit familiar with that process... Years ago, I tried to start a "Sign Shop" and bought a vinyl plotter, scanner and some other goods and could cut out decals, logos, letters, numbers, patterns, etc... Was kind of Cool making things, but very little money to be made, once you figure out your cost of gear, materials, actually making whatever it is, etc... I sold my X Brother in Law a pair of Vehicle magnets for the doors of his work truck for MY cost... He got mad at me a week later, because he found them cheaper on Fleabay... ![]() |
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Are you familiar, by chance, with the Dillon 1050 Index Pawl?
They are made from some cheap grade 0.100" thick steel. You could make a pretty penny selling them to guys with Auto-Drives on their 1050s, because that's about the only part that breaks. Cut them out of some A2 Tool Steel. |
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Nope not familiar with the part but give me a 1:1 scan of the thing or some measurements and a sketch and I can make it.
Even if I have to whittle it out with a needle file. Even a photograph with something in the pic for reference. Want the Pawl Heat treated? How hard? A2 won't make much difference unless it is heat treated. I'll make it if you can tell me where to sell it... Quoted:
Are you familiar, by chance, with the Dillon 1050 Index Pawl? They are made from some cheap grade 0.100" thick steel. You could make a pretty penny selling them to guys with Auto-Drives on their 1050s, because that's about the only part that breaks. Cut them out of some A2 Tool Steel. |
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Nope not familiar with the part but give me a 1:1 scan of the thing or some measurements and a sketch and I can make it. Even if I have to whittle it out with a needle file. Even a photograph with something in the pic for reference. Want the Pawl Heat treated? How hard? A2 won't make much difference unless it is heat treated. I'll make it if you can tell me where to sell it... Quoted:
Nope not familiar with the part but give me a 1:1 scan of the thing or some measurements and a sketch and I can make it. Even if I have to whittle it out with a needle file. Even a photograph with something in the pic for reference. Want the Pawl Heat treated? How hard? A2 won't make much difference unless it is heat treated. I'll make it if you can tell me where to sell it... Quoted:
Are you familiar, by chance, with the Dillon 1050 Index Pawl? They are made from some cheap grade 0.100" thick steel. You could make a pretty penny selling them to guys with Auto-Drives on their 1050s, because that's about the only part that breaks. Cut them out of some A2 Tool Steel. I would imagine Ebay... There are several major improvements to the top 2 Dillon presses. Dillon 650: 1. Primer Ski-Chute Fix 2. Primer Spent Chute Fix Dillon 1050: 1. Primer Spent Chute Fix 2. Index Pawl Upgrade To date, I have seen NOBODY that has addressed the Index Pawl, and that's the ONLY item that fails with a Dillon and an Auto-Drive. Even when you upgrade the clutch from Forcht to something dry and easier to set, and upgrade from a 110 AC motor to a 3-phase 220VAC motor with VFD, the clutch still has to be set tight enough to resize the brass. The VFD can be set sensitive enough to detect a 2% overage in as little as 0.1 seconds. Still, in that short of a time frame, the Index Pawl gets it's ass kicked. We are buying Index Pawls from Dillon 12 at a time, and going through them at a rate of around 1 per 5k pieces of brass. I've been contemplating having a couple machined or water jetted now for a while, but simply havent had time to mess with it. What if I was to take an index pawl and scan it next to a quarter? Heck, I can just as easily make a drawing in Inventor if need be. And yeah, I had planned on hardening the A2. |
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That's really cool. Looks very well built. It should be a lot of fun. It doesn't beat a 5000 watt laser tho Yup but mine is at home... Beats the CRAP out of hand cutting or pattern cutting! in red... so are you saying that it looks "Almost" professionally built? It will be MUCH better when I get the bigger plasma cutter with a machine torch.. I am limited to 1/4" Thick right now... With that I will still be limited to 1"... Current machine is a baby at 30 Amps... but it cuts like a 45 Amp machine. |
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That's a cool setup! I wish I had room for one at my place. And your right about them paying for themselves. My brother is getting a Wardjet 5 axis waterjet for his shop. He currently out sources the waterjet stuff to a friend of his who has one. Just by the amount it will save him, and the additional work he will be able to take on should pay for the machine in two years or less His friend payed his machine off in six months. They were loading material on it as fast as it would cut it. It's definitely a money maker. I plan on having a bunch of nice shiny rifle targets soon |
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I would imagine Ebay... There are several major improvements to the top 2 Dillon presses. Dillon 650: 1. Primer Ski-Chute Fix 2. Primer Spent Chute Fix Dillon 1050: 1. Primer Spent Chute Fix 2. Index Pawl Upgrade To date, I have seen NOBODY that has addressed the Index Pawl, and that's the ONLY item that fails with a Dillon and an Auto-Drive. Even when you upgrade the clutch from Forcht to something dry and easier to set, and upgrade from a 110 AC motor to a 3-phase 220VAC motor with VFD, the clutch still has to be set tight enough to resize the brass. The VFD can be set sensitive enough to detect a 2% overage in as little as 0.1 seconds. Still, in that short of a time frame, the Index Pawl gets it's ass kicked. We are buying Index Pawls from Dillon 12 at a time, and going through them at a rate of around 1 per 5k pieces of brass. I've been contemplating having a couple machined or water jetted now for a while, but simply havent had time to mess with it. What if I was to take an index pawl and scan it next to a quarter? Heck, I can just as easily make a drawing in Inventor if need be. And yeah, I had planned on hardening the A2. Quoted:
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Nope not familiar with the part but give me a 1:1 scan of the thing or some measurements and a sketch and I can make it. Even if I have to whittle it out with a needle file. Even a photograph with something in the pic for reference. Want the Pawl Heat treated? How hard? A2 won't make much difference unless it is heat treated. I'll make it if you can tell me where to sell it... Quoted:
Are you familiar, by chance, with the Dillon 1050 Index Pawl? They are made from some cheap grade 0.100" thick steel. You could make a pretty penny selling them to guys with Auto-Drives on their 1050s, because that's about the only part that breaks. Cut them out of some A2 Tool Steel. I would imagine Ebay... There are several major improvements to the top 2 Dillon presses. Dillon 650: 1. Primer Ski-Chute Fix 2. Primer Spent Chute Fix Dillon 1050: 1. Primer Spent Chute Fix 2. Index Pawl Upgrade To date, I have seen NOBODY that has addressed the Index Pawl, and that's the ONLY item that fails with a Dillon and an Auto-Drive. Even when you upgrade the clutch from Forcht to something dry and easier to set, and upgrade from a 110 AC motor to a 3-phase 220VAC motor with VFD, the clutch still has to be set tight enough to resize the brass. The VFD can be set sensitive enough to detect a 2% overage in as little as 0.1 seconds. Still, in that short of a time frame, the Index Pawl gets it's ass kicked. We are buying Index Pawls from Dillon 12 at a time, and going through them at a rate of around 1 per 5k pieces of brass. I've been contemplating having a couple machined or water jetted now for a while, but simply havent had time to mess with it. What if I was to take an index pawl and scan it next to a quarter? Heck, I can just as easily make a drawing in Inventor if need be. And yeah, I had planned on hardening the A2. Scanning it next to a quarter or inventor would be fine, I would need .DWG or .DXF (2013 ASCII format) Mic the thickness... I will happily see what I can do. |
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OK I will see if I can get permission from the powers that be... Any clue who to ask? How BIG? I only have 5'x5' to work with and can only source material locally at 48"x48" Quoted:
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I would be in for a BFL too....! OK I will see if I can get permission from the powers that be... Any clue who to ask? How BIG? I only have 5'x5' to work with and can only source material locally at 48"x48" I believe that Goatboy takes care of such matters. |
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I would be in for a BFL too....! OK I will see if I can get permission from the powers that be... Any clue who to ask? How BIG? I only have 5'x5' to work with and can only source material locally at 48"x48" I believe that Goatboy takes care of such matters. Sent the Goat an IM. Will see how he responds. |
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Quote me a price on a couple. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hrsgrunner/yardsign1-1.png BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! What do you want them made out of? |
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Quote me a price on a couple. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/hrsgrunner/yardsign1-1.png -$4 (for not buying the condoms) $487.32 craving food for the next nine months $12,500 labor and delivery $399. (and two skinned knuckles) for the crib $193,000 - diapers ... but you know, you did save four bucks on the condoms.
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It would be about like cutting fiberglass. I'm wanting "something like" this done some time. Just a piece cut to spec around the edges and possibly the button holes if it's possible to do those so small . I could drill and ream them also, but the edges is the real thing that needs to be cut decent, not with a jigsaw. http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jbodin1980/Sam-Wheel-Pre-Delivery-Front_zps3a1b120e.jpg http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jbodin1980/Sam-Wheel-Pre-Delivery-Back_zpsf0b31b16.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxzpu0XjHIs/Uw1zz0NONfI/AAAAAAAAAUg/ACfZZLjP8M0/s1600/20140224_221355.jpg (Just some flat plates like the buttons are attached to , not the whole wheel. Quoted:
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That is cool. Ever cut any carbon fiber ? No but if I can cut it with a Router or Plasma ARC I can cut it, and if I get a drag Knife I can cut it with that as cloth. It would be about like cutting fiberglass. I'm wanting "something like" this done some time. Just a piece cut to spec around the edges and possibly the button holes if it's possible to do those so small . I could drill and ream them also, but the edges is the real thing that needs to be cut decent, not with a jigsaw. http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jbodin1980/Sam-Wheel-Pre-Delivery-Front_zps3a1b120e.jpg http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jbodin1980/Sam-Wheel-Pre-Delivery-Back_zpsf0b31b16.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxzpu0XjHIs/Uw1zz0NONfI/AAAAAAAAAUg/ACfZZLjP8M0/s1600/20140224_221355.jpg (Just some flat plates like the buttons are attached to , not the whole wheel. Got a drawing of it? and what EXACTLY is the material? Where can I score some? or a pattern I can scan? I would like to give it a go. the Router can do that easily. the material would need to be fixtured in place, probably a vacuum table with a spoilboard. piece of cake. Holes are how big? the engraving bit is 60 degree and has a zero tip carbide so it would walk carbon fiber like paper. |
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They are all different depending on what you put on them as far as switches. I never knew anyone that could actually do it, so I have not thought about a plan/ layout much. I'll have to look through the switches I have and see what the sizes are and where they would go . Give me some time there. The stuff it's made from is carbon fiber sheets. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbon-Fiber-Panel-Plain-Weave-12-x24-x2-6mm-/131286280539 If you Google search "sim racing dash" , you will find MANY examples of some really cool stuff. |

























