[ARCHIVED THREAD] - License Plate Lookup (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 4/5/2014 6:48:43 PM EDT
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Hi all,
Anyone know what options exist for doing a license plate lookup in the state of Missouri? I was involved in an incident today on the road and unfortunately the issue cannot be adequately addressed through law enforcement SOP. I need to find personal contact information from a license plate number so that I can tactfully and responsibly address this problem. Thanks, Jimmy |
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Missouri DOR does not provide in most cases the information you are looking for. It is limited to LE. You may find a private investigator with similar resources, and there are some online resources that claim access but they are more targeted at property tax type resources. |
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Quoted: I suggest you find a lawyer / bail bondsmen lookup before you deal with the license plate issue. After reading his other post, I concur. I don't believe this will be rectified to his satisfaction...and I sense LE will be involved whether he invites the "man" into his life or not...
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Contact the police. I did, the police have enumerated two options: 1. Press charges. In this case probably the most they will be found guilty of is disturbing the peace, and it will be their word against mine. Them being sh*thead punks, they will lie about events. It's likely that it will be a big waste of my time. 2. Do nothing Neither option is acceptable. The police cannot or will not do anything about this situation. Someone needs to let these punks know that harassment of random motorists and reckless driving is unacceptable. |
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I did, the police have enumerated two options: 1. Press charges. In this case probably the most they will be found guilty of is disturbing the peace, and it will be their word against mine. Them being sh*thead punks, they will lie about events. It's likely that it will be a big waste of my time. 2. Do nothing Neither option is acceptable. The police cannot or will not do anything about this situation. Someone needs to let these punks know that harassment of random motorists and reckless driving is unacceptable. Quoted:
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Contact the police. I did, the police have enumerated two options: 1. Press charges. In this case probably the most they will be found guilty of is disturbing the peace, and it will be their word against mine. Them being sh*thead punks, they will lie about events. It's likely that it will be a big waste of my time. 2. Do nothing Neither option is acceptable. The police cannot or will not do anything about this situation. Someone needs to let these punks know that harassment of random motorists and reckless driving is unacceptable. Let it go for the moment, invest in a dashcam, and when you have video then discuss the matter with Officer Friendly. He still may be unwilling to do anything. Posting on a public forum that you are trying to track someone down for what sounds like vigilante justice isn't going to take you anywhere good. |
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I did, the police have enumerated two options: 1. Press charges. In this case probably the most they will be found guilty of is disturbing the peace, and it will be their word against mine. Them being sh*thead punks, they will lie about events. It's likely that it will be a big waste of my time. 2. Do nothing Neither option is acceptable. The police cannot or will not do anything about this situation. Someone needs to let these punks know that harassment of random motorists and reckless driving is unacceptable. Quoted:
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Contact the police. I did, the police have enumerated two options: 1. Press charges. In this case probably the most they will be found guilty of is disturbing the peace, and it will be their word against mine. Them being sh*thead punks, they will lie about events. It's likely that it will be a big waste of my time. 2. Do nothing Neither option is acceptable. The police cannot or will not do anything about this situation. Someone needs to let these punks know that harassment of random motorists and reckless driving is unacceptable. Sounds like we should call Ryan from A1 Gunrunners...he will pull a gun on them for you.... Too soon? |
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Sounds like we should call Ryan from A1 Gunrunners...he will pull a gun on them for you.... Too soon? Quoted:
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Contact the police. I did, the police have enumerated two options: 1. Press charges. In this case probably the most they will be found guilty of is disturbing the peace, and it will be their word against mine. Them being sh*thead punks, they will lie about events. It's likely that it will be a big waste of my time. 2. Do nothing Neither option is acceptable. The police cannot or will not do anything about this situation. Someone needs to let these punks know that harassment of random motorists and reckless driving is unacceptable. Sounds like we should call Ryan from A1 Gunrunners...he will pull a gun on them for you.... Too soon? No. No it's not. |
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Quoted: Sounds like we should call Ryan from A1 Gunrunners...he will pull a gun on them for you.... Too soon? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Contact the police. I did, the police have enumerated two options: 1. Press charges. In this case probably the most they will be found guilty of is disturbing the peace, and it will be their word against mine. Them being sh*thead punks, they will lie about events. It's likely that it will be a big waste of my time. 2. Do nothing Neither option is acceptable. The police cannot or will not do anything about this situation. Someone needs to let these punks know that harassment of random motorists and reckless driving is unacceptable. Sounds like we should call Ryan from A1 Gunrunners...he will pull a gun on them for you.... Too soon?   |
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I figured a dumpster diver would be suggested B4 this...
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Contact the police. I did, the police have enumerated two options: 1. Press charges. In this case probably the most they will be found guilty of is disturbing the peace, and it will be their word against mine. Them being sh*thead punks, they will lie about events. It's likely that it will be a big waste of my time. 2. Do nothing Neither option is acceptable. The police cannot or will not do anything about this situation. Someone needs to let these punks know that harassment of random motorists and reckless driving is unacceptable. Sounds like we should call Ryan from A1 Gunrunners...he will pull a gun on them for you.... Too soon? No. No it's not. |
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Let it go for the moment, invest in a dashcam, and when you have video then discuss the matter with Officer Friendly. He still may be unwilling to do anything. Posting on a public forum that you are trying to track someone down for what sounds like vigilante justice isn't going to take you anywhere good. I agree with this. Getting angry and trying to do something yourself is a great way to get yourself behind bars paying $$ to a lawyer to gain your freedom while stupid roams free. Let stupid be stupid--they multiply like tribbles so they'll always be around. |
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Sounds good in theory. Reality is entirely different. "I saw it on the street/in a parking lot/somewhere I haven't seen that car before... three weeks ago" is plenty of reason. Quoted:
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LE can not just run a plate #, they have to have a reason.
Sounds good in theory. Reality is entirely different. "I saw it on the street/in a parking lot/somewhere I haven't seen that car before... three weeks ago" is plenty of reason. I thought they stopped pretending they needed a reason, when they went with the automatic plate scanners? Or do they just save all the scans, and look them up later if they need to? |
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Sssshhhh. I'm running yours now.... Quoted:
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LE can not just run a plate #, they have to have a reason. That's total BS . They do it all the time. Sssshhhh. I'm running yours now.... Oooh Oooh run mine next... I wanna know what I've been doing. |
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Quoted: Oooh Oooh run mine next... I wanna know what I've been doing. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: LE can not just run a plate #, they have to have a reason. That's total BS . They do it all the time. Sssshhhh. I'm running yours now.... Oooh Oooh run mine next... I wanna know what I've been doing. LOL...if you want to know that, we both probably know someone to go through your garbage!!! |
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LOL...if you want to know that, we both probably know someone to go through your garbage!!! Quoted:
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LE can not just run a plate #, they have to have a reason. That's total BS . They do it all the time. Sssshhhh. I'm running yours now.... Oooh Oooh run mine next... I wanna know what I've been doing. LOL...if you want to know that, we both probably know someone to go through your garbage!!! I really just wanted to know what my license plate # is, DMV fucked it all up last time I renewed and I got new ones... can't remember them for anything... outside is too far to travel. |
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Quoted: Are ya saying you don't ? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: LE can not just run a plate #, they have to have a reason. That's total BS . They do it all the time. Sssshhhh. I'm running yours now.... Are ya saying you don't ? Yes, I'm saying I don't. Am I saying that no one does? That would be no different than the blanket, all inclusive statement you made.... Gather 'round children, while Nturavrgcop peels back the curtains of the evil JBT and provides another lesson in insight to LE....Except for Festus_Hagen as he is obviously an expert...("That's total BS . They do it all the time.") DOR access is governed by a number of FED and state agencies....for our purposes, the one of immediate importance is the MOHP. They serve as the "gatekeeper". For me to run a plate, I have to be able to articulate an investigative reason. Now, can I make something up? You betcha! Now, lets take Officer JBT. He likes em the ladies, so he starts running plates, getting dates. Except, complaints start coming in. (SPOILER ALERT: If you make a complaint, most agencies investigate them.) No, you might not get the outcome you expected, and I'm sure you would be shocked to find out that people hang false charges on Officers, but I digress. Complaints have a variety of categories...let them find out you were using DOR inappropriately? Your job is the least of your worries. Jail time is more than a limited possibility. "Oh bullshit Nturavrgcop, that's happened what...one time?" There are more, google is your friend. My agency (and there are a few LEO's here who know where I work) fired two officers for a variety of reasons, not the least of which was DOR violations within the last 10 years. Then there's those nasty DPS audits. Why is Officer JBT running so many __________ plates (_______ can be anything...) Yes, there are those who abuse it. Yes, sometimes it takes a complaint to find out about it. But those who make a habit of it do get caught. To make a blanket statement that "That's total BS . They do it all the time." reeks of nothing more than someone who was picked last for kickball or was picked on for their milk money...Oh wait, did I just make an unsubstantiated characterization?
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Damn , struck a nerve . 
I hear it on the scanner all the time and they say "This is not involving a violation" when they want to just run a plate . 
I also know plenty of LEO and my family has them in it including my Dad . They all run plates if they want to know who is who, and if they are off-duty they call the shop and have them do it. I've been in the presence of them actually doing it, not just roaming the net looking for evil cop stories. 
So yea , I do know it happens . I have no clue why you are getting so worked up about it . The secret is already out . 
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Quoted: No shit . Like if it's illegal the cops won't do it. Quoted: Quoted: By Gawd it's against the rules and could result in jail time !!! Who sent MO's CCW list to the Feds even though it was against the law ? What ever happened to those folks ? No shit . Like if it's illegal the cops won't do it. Now, I want to be sure I got this straight...because you read somewhere or saw an article about a cop doing something illegal we do it all the time right? Because if we are going that route....Hell, I know personally of three felons who are members here, and one who posted on HTF. Now, if we are going to extrapolate from those numbers, well hell. And I'm not butt hurt. The interwebz toughies are everywhere. I just laugh at all the experts here. "I know someone who heard someone"
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By Gawd it's against the rules and could result in jail time !!! Who sent MO's CCW list to the Feds even though it was against the law ? What ever happened to those folks ? No shit . Like if it's illegal the cops won't do it. No differently than our politicians... They won't give up the power. Honor be damned. |
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Interestingly this has turned out to be a sensitive and contentious subject. This same topic resulted in some heated comments and a thread lock in the AR15 bros of the shield board. I want to make it clear that I am not acting out of anger. The perps (young men) were harassing random people on the road. This was more than a typical road rage / young-kids-being-bored scenario. Probably the worst I've seen. Driving in an extremely reckless manner to the point of being downright dangerous, swerving their car to feint ramming other vehicles, flipping people off, etc. I was able to determine that the owner of the car is most likely a grandparent. My plan is to contact the grandparent and explain that little Johnny is using the grandparent's car to harass people and is putting them (and himself) at serious risk of causing an accident. The grandparent's reaction should help indicate if any further action is warranted. Several folk have suggested that I drop it. Dropping it and waiting for someone to get hurt or sustain property damage before something is done is a terrible course of action (or more properly, inaction).
Would appreciate any realistic suggestions for obtaining the required information. Thanks. |
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Quoted: You ever gonna run my plate? Its too far away still  Quoted: Quoted: Dude It's all good. Our HTF LEO haters are much more polite than GD You ever gonna run my plate? Its too far away still |
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Quoted: Interestingly this has turned out to be a sensitive and contentious subject. This same topic resulted in some heated comments and a thread lock in the AR15 bros of the shield board. I want to make it clear that I am not acting out of anger. The perps (young men) were harassing random people on the road. This was more than a typical road rage / young-kids-being-bored scenario. Probably the worst I've seen. Driving in an extremely reckless manner to the point of being downright dangerous, swerving their car to feint ramming other vehicles, flipping people off, etc. I was able to determine that the owner of the car is most likely a grandparent. My plan is to contact the grandparent and explain that little Johnny is using the grandparent's car to harass people and is putting them (and himself) at serious risk of causing an accident. The grandparent's reaction should help indicate if any further action is warranted. Several folk have suggested that I drop it. Dropping it and waiting for someone to get hurt or sustain property damage before something is done is a terrible course of action (or more properly, inaction). Would appreciate any realistic suggestions for obtaining the required information. Thanks. There are none. Missouri DOR specifically prohibits you from getting the info. We can dance around this all day, wring our hands about the abuses of JBT's, their failings to take more oaths and the like....you are still not going to find access to that info unless some unscrupulous LEO does it for you and then they will be doing nothing more than confirming the suspicions of my fellow HTF members. Catch 22
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Regarding the LPRs... my understanding is that they are using a loophole (i.e, the way the law is written that someone doesn't like) like so: an LPR is not actually running the plate.
It's not a live/online transaction, instead there is a daily/weekly download to the LPR of plates and their status. No information about owner etc, just valid/suspended/expired/wanted/etc. When it reads one that is not valid, it chirps at the officer... who then has a reason to run the plate live to confirm. (This is roughly how it worked at my old agency in NY; I don't know if MO is similar.) |
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Quoted: Regarding the LPRs... my understanding is that they are using a loophole (i.e, the way the law is written that someone doesn't like) like so: an LPR is not actually running the plate. It's not a live/online transaction, instead there is a daily/weekly download to the LPR of plates and their status. No information about owner etc, just valid/suspended/expired/wanted/etc. When it reads one that is not valid, it chirps at the officer... who then has a reason to run the plate live to confirm. (This is roughly how it worked at my old agency in NY; I don't know if MO is similar.) LPR's are nothing more than plate loggers.
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Regarding the LPRs... my understanding is that they are using a loophole (i.e, the way the law is written that someone doesn't like) like so: an LPR is not actually running the plate. It's not a live/online transaction, instead there is a daily/weekly download to the LPR of plates and their status. No information about owner etc, just valid/suspended/expired/wanted/etc. When it reads one that is not valid, it chirps at the officer... who then has a reason to run the plate live to confirm. (This is roughly how it worked at my old agency in NY; I don't know if MO is similar.) This is how they work here as well. Its running a file that is downloaded onto the actual computer….. there is no way it can be done live in the foreseeable future. Its only looking for wanted vehicles and persons. Not expired plates etc where Im at. Its doing nothing different than if a person drove around with a digital camera and took pictures of car. REPO companies use them as well just FYI… not like LE is the only bag in town using them. Also on the plate issue I can run someones plate if its work related. IE Not personal reasons or bc the driver is of a certain race or what not. For example I see a vehicle and want to check and see if it comes back to that vehicle I can. Amazingly they often come back to the wrong vehicle and with wanteds attached. There is no expectation or privacy with a license plate. So if you think there needs to be PC to run a plate you're wrong. Personal reasons are majorly verboten. To the OP: You need to pull your head out your ass, all you are going to do is wind up getting yourself in hot water over some stupid crap. You're not John Wayne. Guess what grandpa/ dad probably doesn't really give two craps what you think. Then what are you going to do when he tells you to pound sand……??????? |
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Dude It's all good. Our HTF LEO haters are much more polite than GD You ever gonna run my plate? Its too far away still I'm being preemptively repressed! |
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Quoted: This is how they work here as well. Its running a file that is downloaded onto the actual computer….. there is no way it can be done live in the foreseeable future. Its only looking for wanted vehicles and persons. Not expired plates etc where Im at. Its doing nothing different than if a person drove around with a digital camera and took pictures of car. REPO companies use them as well just FYI… not like LE is the only bag in town using them. Also on the plate issue I can run someones plate if its work related. IE Not personal reasons or bc the driver is of a certain race or what not. For example I see a vehicle and want to check and see if it comes back to that vehicle I can. Amazingly they often come back to the wrong vehicle and with wanteds attached. There is no expectation or privacy with a license plate. So if you think there needs to be PC to run a plate you're wrong. Personal reasons are majorly verboten. To the OP: You need to pull your head out your ass, all you are going to do is wind up getting yourself in hot water over some stupid crap. You're not John Wayne. Guess what grandpa/ dad probably doesn't really give two craps what you think. Then what are you going to do when he tells you to pound sand……??????? Quoted: Quoted: Regarding the LPRs... my understanding is that they are using a loophole (i.e, the way the law is written that someone doesn't like) like so: an LPR is not actually running the plate. It's not a live/online transaction, instead there is a daily/weekly download to the LPR of plates and their status. No information about owner etc, just valid/suspended/expired/wanted/etc. When it reads one that is not valid, it chirps at the officer... who then has a reason to run the plate live to confirm. (This is roughly how it worked at my old agency in NY; I don't know if MO is similar.) This is how they work here as well. Its running a file that is downloaded onto the actual computer….. there is no way it can be done live in the foreseeable future. Its only looking for wanted vehicles and persons. Not expired plates etc where Im at. Its doing nothing different than if a person drove around with a digital camera and took pictures of car. REPO companies use them as well just FYI… not like LE is the only bag in town using them. Also on the plate issue I can run someones plate if its work related. IE Not personal reasons or bc the driver is of a certain race or what not. For example I see a vehicle and want to check and see if it comes back to that vehicle I can. Amazingly they often come back to the wrong vehicle and with wanteds attached. There is no expectation or privacy with a license plate. So if you think there needs to be PC to run a plate you're wrong. Personal reasons are majorly verboten. To the OP: You need to pull your head out your ass, all you are going to do is wind up getting yourself in hot water over some stupid crap. You're not John Wayne. Guess what grandpa/ dad probably doesn't really give two craps what you think. Then what are you going to do when he tells you to pound sand……??????? Private employers on their lots, .gov facilities including military, and they hire college kids to drive around in LPR equipped cars to help plot travel of plates/vehicles. Well explained '84 ETA...the LPR has a "hot list". If the plate scanned is a "hit", you are notified. You can also go back through the logs and check plates, something we do when we have burglaries in residential areas. We can go back, look at the log and check to see if any plates were registered that didn't belong in the neighborhood. |
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Now, I want to be sure I got this straight...because you read somewhere or saw an article about a cop doing something illegal we do it all the time right? Because if we are going that route....Hell, I know personally of three felons who are members here, and one who posted on HTF. Now, if we are going to extrapolate from those numbers, well hell. And I'm not butt hurt. The interwebz toughies are everywhere. I just laugh at all the experts here. "I know someone who heard someone" Quoted:
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By Gawd it's against the rules and could result in jail time !!! Who sent MO's CCW list to the Feds even though it was against the law ? What ever happened to those folks ? No shit . Like if it's illegal the cops won't do it. Now, I want to be sure I got this straight...because you read somewhere or saw an article about a cop doing something illegal we do it all the time right? Because if we are going that route....Hell, I know personally of three felons who are members here, and one who posted on HTF. Now, if we are going to extrapolate from those numbers, well hell. And I'm not butt hurt. The interwebz toughies are everywhere. I just laugh at all the experts here. "I know someone who heard someone" No. You don't . At all . Maybe reading comprehension isn't a cops thing , I dunno.
I have been in the presence of them when they do it . Sometimes off duty. Sometimes not. I don't read shit on the internet and comment about it . It's a fact. |
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Quoted: No. You don't . At all . Maybe reading comprehension isn't a cops thing , I dunno. I have been in the presence of them when they do it . Sometimes off duty. Sometimes not. I don't read shit on the internet and comment about it . It's a fact. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: By Gawd it's against the rules and could result in jail time !!! Who sent MO's CCW list to the Feds even though it was against the law ? What ever happened to those folks ? No shit . Like if it's illegal the cops won't do it. Now, I want to be sure I got this straight...because you read somewhere or saw an article about a cop doing something illegal we do it all the time right? Because if we are going that route....Hell, I know personally of three felons who are members here, and one who posted on HTF. Now, if we are going to extrapolate from those numbers, well hell. And I'm not butt hurt. The interwebz toughies are everywhere. I just laugh at all the experts here. "I know someone who heard someone" No. You don't . At all . Maybe reading comprehension isn't a cops thing , I dunno. I have been in the presence of them when they do it . Sometimes off duty. Sometimes not. I don't read shit on the internet and comment about it . It's a fact. Since "reading comprehension isn't a cop thing", I want to be clear I'm understanding this. You are saying your father and folks you know are violating CJIS requirements by running people just because? Federal laws? You know, because my reading skills suck and all. Please clarify.
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Here, I'll make this clear... Festus_Hagen, and others are more than likely telling the truth. I will not argue that. But instead of "AROCKING" non participants (either inadvertantly by Festus or others) understand this: There are those, whether they be LE or any other profession who will bend or break the rules. There are those on this board who are LE who are decent folks, who also know me. For those who wring their hands about the abuses of LE, my job (in part) is dealing with those who abuse their powers or violate the rules. It is my job to deal with them. It does not endear me to many in my profession. It is for those reasons I take exception with those who paint with a broad brush accusations or characterizations of LEO's. Not that all are innocent, but those who state that all are innocent. For those who wish to make false or misleading accusations, I will rise to the occasion to point out their foibles. I will NOT tell you that all are as white as the driven snow...but I will also not allow generalized characterizations...especially based on what I know about more than one or two HTF members. To the original OP, you won't find it here. To Festus, I'll end it here because this was going a direction that would not have gone well for anyone involved. To Flatulence...well, as always we find ourselves meeting on these topics.... |
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Here, I'll make this clear... Festus_Hagen, and others are more than likely telling the truth. I will not argue that. Thank you. To Festus, I'll end it here because this was going a direction that would not have gone well for anyone involved. Look, I'm not anti cop . At all . I hang out with cops . My family has cops . For you to say it doesn't happen is as broad as me saying it does. I wasn't trying to get in a pissing match with you whatsoever, never have . I'm done with it . |
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Quoted: Now, I want to be sure I got this straight...because you read somewhere or saw an article about a cop doing something illegal we do it all the time right? Because if we are going that route....Hell, I know personally of three felons who are members here, and one who posted on HTF. Now, if we are going to extrapolate from those numbers, well hell. |
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Now, I want to be sure I got this straight...because you read somewhere or saw an article about a cop doing something illegal we do it all the time right? Because if we are going that route....Hell, I know personally of three felons who are members here, and one who posted on HTF. Now, if we are going to extrapolate from those numbers, well hell. I swear the German midget scat pron videos I have are pre-ban and grandfathered in. Ein klein scheisse grosspapa? |
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Quoted: Ein klein scheisse grosspapa? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Now, I want to be sure I got this straight...because you read somewhere or saw an article about a cop doing something illegal we do it all the time right? Because if we are going that route....Hell, I know personally of three felons who are members here, and one who posted on HTF. Now, if we are going to extrapolate from those numbers, well hell. I swear the German midget scat pron videos I have are pre-ban and grandfathered in. Ein klein scheisse grosspapa? |
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Quoted: Mit schnitzel! Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Now, I want to be sure I got this straight...because you read somewhere or saw an article about a cop doing something illegal we do it all the time right? Because if we are going that route....Hell, I know personally of three felons who are members here, and one who posted on HTF. Now, if we are going to extrapolate from those numbers, well hell. I swear the German midget scat pron videos I have are pre-ban and grandfathered in. Ein klein scheisse grosspapa? And this is why I love Eric...Yes, it's done. Let's just move on to the next topic. Hell, I'm working on something more relevant to the spirit of the site...aka Akdal 1919 12 gauge shotgun.
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To the OP: You need to pull your head out your ass, all you are going to do is wind up getting yourself in hot water over some stupid crap. You're not John Wayne. Guess what grandpa/ dad probably doesn't really give two craps what you think. Then what are you going to do when he tells you to pound sand……??????? Spare me the prick commentary about heads in asses and all of that bullsh*t. I don't know what it is about this topic that makes people react like jerks but it doesn't impress me in the slightest. Now, to answer your question, if grandma tells me to stuff it I may decide to press charges. Like I said originally, it all depends on how grandma/grandpa reacts. My goal is very simple: provide feedback so that little Johnny knows there are consequences to his actions. |
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Quoted: Spare me the prick commentary about heads in asses and all of that bullsh*t. I don't know what it is about this topic that makes people react like jerks but it doesn't impress me in the slightest. Now, to answer your question, if grandma tells me to stuff it I may decide to press charges. Like I said originally, it all depends on how grandma/grandpa reacts. My goal is very simple: provide feedback so that little Johnny knows there are consequences to his actions. Quoted: Quoted: To the OP: You need to pull your head out your ass, all you are going to do is wind up getting yourself in hot water over some stupid crap. You're not John Wayne. Guess what grandpa/ dad probably doesn't really give two craps what you think. Then what are you going to do when he tells you to pound sand……??????? Spare me the prick commentary about heads in asses and all of that bullsh*t. I don't know what it is about this topic that makes people react like jerks but it doesn't impress me in the slightest. Now, to answer your question, if grandma tells me to stuff it I may decide to press charges. Like I said originally, it all depends on how grandma/grandpa reacts. My goal is very simple: provide feedback so that little Johnny knows there are consequences to his actions. Ok, good luck with that. Missouri is pretty specific about tough guys like you looking for DOR info...in short, you wont get it.
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Spare me the prick commentary about heads in asses and all of that bullsh*t. I don't know what it is about this topic that makes people react like jerks but it doesn't impress me in the slightest. Now, to answer your question, if grandma tells me to stuff it I may decide to press charges. Like I said originally, it all depends on how grandma/grandpa reacts. My goal is very simple: provide feedback so that little Johnny knows there are consequences to his actions. Quoted:
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To the OP: You need to pull your head out your ass, all you are going to do is wind up getting yourself in hot water over some stupid crap. You're not John Wayne. Guess what grandpa/ dad probably doesn't really give two craps what you think. Then what are you going to do when he tells you to pound sand……??????? Spare me the prick commentary about heads in asses and all of that bullsh*t. I don't know what it is about this topic that makes people react like jerks but it doesn't impress me in the slightest. Now, to answer your question, if grandma tells me to stuff it I may decide to press charges. Like I said originally, it all depends on how grandma/grandpa reacts. My goal is very simple: provide feedback so that little Johnny knows there are consequences to his actions. Ok, I do understand what your intentions are, and I think they are good . If you don't know where they live, or it's not a car you are likely to see again and follow home (which wouldn't be real smart IMO either) then really the next step is to report them . The cops coming to the house about the little brat and talking to the parents/ grandparents will likely do more good in this situation more than some random stranger coming to the door will. And yes, my answer is serious and not in my ass . |
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For the rest that want to listen to those that know, here is the statue saying they can't just run your shit to find out. I know, I know...some bodies daddy and friends don't follow the law.
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutesearch/stathtml/5760000050.htm |