Posted: 2/3/2014 1:00:35 PM EDT
| What's the best (read easiest, and cheapest) way to do a criminal background check on a potential customer is Missouri? |
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I'm a little confused. Why would a business want to do a background check on a customer? What business are you in exactly? I'm offering a school that teaches people to finish an 80% AR lower receiver. They do the work, and take the lower home with them when they are done. I want to make sure that I'm not helping a criminal get their hands on a gun. So, I require either a current CCW, or a back ground check for my peace of mind. |
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Quoted: If anyone needs one of these, PM me.  Quoted: Quoted: Standard "Good Guy" letter from Chief of Police or Sheriff's Office. If anyone needs one of these, PM me. |
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Can you get me one that says I'm an ordained preacher in some obscure religion? Church of the FSM perhaps? Quoted:
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Standard "Good Guy" letter from Chief of Police or Sheriff's Office. If anyone needs one of these, PM me. Awe heck, I got one of those from Universal Church of Life. 
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MOCASE.net if they are from MO this should work. Mocase.net doesn't seem to be a real site. I googled case net, and got Missouri's court system to look up current cases. Is that what you meant? I don't think that would show me if someone was wanted someplace else. That may not be thorough enough. |
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Just to play devils advocate...
There are MUCH easier ways for a prohibited person to get a gun than go to a class on how to machine a functional ar15 lower. Heck, you could get that info on the interwebs. As another side note. I hope you have done some research on how you will be presenting your class because SOME LE have shut down other "operations". Apparently the claim is that the "teachers" or "renters" of the cnc for example were, in the opinion of some, acting as a unlicensed manufacturer. |
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Can you get me one that says I'm an ordained preacher in some obscure religion? Church of the FSM perhaps? Quoted:
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Standard "Good Guy" letter from Chief of Police or Sheriff's Office. If anyone needs one of these, PM me. Yeah, I am ordained... You can call me reverend... And yes, it is free you cheap ba.... ummm acolyte... |
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Mocase.net doesn't seem to be a real site. I googled case net, and got Missouri's court system to look up current cases. Is that what you meant? I don't think that would show me if someone was wanted someplace else. That may not be thorough enough. Quoted:
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MOCASE.net if they are from MO this should work. Mocase.net doesn't seem to be a real site. I googled case net, and got Missouri's court system to look up current cases. Is that what you meant? I don't think that would show me if someone was wanted someplace else. That may not be thorough enough. You're right. Casenet will only give certain jurisdiction and only in Missouri. |
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Yeah, I am ordained... You can call me reverend... And yes, it is free you cheap ba.... ummm acolyte... Quoted:
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Standard "Good Guy" letter from Chief of Police or Sheriff's Office. If anyone needs one of these, PM me. Yeah, I am ordained... You can call me reverend... And yes, it is free you cheap ba.... ummm acolyte... Been there done that. 100.00 q wack to marry drunks at a party. I'm in bro. 
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The missouri courts website is courts.mo.gov/casenet
Beyond that I would make sure you get a green light letter from ATF to do this. Haven't read all of the pertinent statutes related to it but you could be easily getting into some hot water with the feds by doing this. |
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I believe leo84 was referring to completing an 80% lower for another party being considered as manufacturing. It is still 100% legal for an individual to make a Title 1 firearm without "paperwork". And my understanding is that as long as the instructor is letting the student do the machining that it is legal. |
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I believe leo84 was referring to completing an 80% lower for another party being considered as manufacturing. It is still 100% legal for an individual to make a Title 1 firearm without "paperwork". And my understanding is that as long as the instructor is letting the student do the machining that it is legal. ^ Thats the key theres nothing wrong with finishing an 80% yourself. Point is what happens and what do they (ATF) consider manufacturing. Do they consider providing the machines to do it while you are there instructing as manufacturing. What happens if someone doesn't know how to operate a machine and the instructor steps in to help them do it / does it for them. If you had a cnc machine setup with the part loaded and all the student had to hit is the run button. Is that manufacturing? What point does it become ok and what point does it not. We aren't exactly living in gun friendly times currently. Point being you don't want to be the test case. A letter from ATF saying your good to go would be a good defense in any case. You really don't want the feds up your behind. |
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Quoted: ^ Thats the key theres nothing wrong with finishing an 80% yourself. Point is what happens and what do they (ATF) consider manufacturing. Do they consider providing the machines to do it while you are there instructing as manufacturing. What happens if someone doesn't know how to operate a machine and the instructor steps in to help them do it / does it for them. If you had a cnc machine setup with the part loaded and all the student had to hit is the run button. Is that manufacturing? What point does it become ok and what point does it not. We aren't exactly living in gun friendly times currently. Point being you don't want to be the test case. A letter from ATF saying your good to go would be a good defense in any case. You really don't want the feds up your behind. Quoted: Quoted: I believe leo84 was referring to completing an 80% lower for another party being considered as manufacturing. It is still 100% legal for an individual to make a Title 1 firearm without "paperwork". And my understanding is that as long as the instructor is letting the student do the machining that it is legal. ^ Thats the key theres nothing wrong with finishing an 80% yourself. Point is what happens and what do they (ATF) consider manufacturing. Do they consider providing the machines to do it while you are there instructing as manufacturing. What happens if someone doesn't know how to operate a machine and the instructor steps in to help them do it / does it for them. If you had a cnc machine setup with the part loaded and all the student had to hit is the run button. Is that manufacturing? What point does it become ok and what point does it not. We aren't exactly living in gun friendly times currently. Point being you don't want to be the test case. A letter from ATF saying your good to go would be a good defense in any case. You really don't want the feds up your behind. Sage words from a wise man. Of course, I try to live by the motto that I don't want anyone up my behind, but thats just me and I'm not judging here...
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