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4/17/2013 9:38:57 AM EDT
My fleet is expanding again...it's worse than BRD





4/17/2013 11:30:48 AM EDT
[#1]
I was just looking at one of those on B&H Photo...

Phil
4/17/2013 11:32:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Those don't come with the Weaver Ant Behavior model pre-installed do they?
4/17/2013 11:38:36 AM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


I was just looking at one of those on B&H Photo...



Phil


I looked there as well; while B&H is well regarded in the photography world, they are not at this time a DJI dealer.  With incidents of flyaways, look at Atlanta Hobby or DSLR.  I did Atlanta's GoPro package and saved $60, and they honor the warranty.



This is my third one; got it as a steady flying platform that's easy to fly....very forgiving unlike my heavy lifter octocopter
4/17/2013 11:45:25 AM EDT
[#4]

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Those don't come with the Weaver Ant Behavior model pre-installed do they?






Nah....I'm just shooting pics of pretty flowers and such....actually its for a business.  But I've seen the youtube videos
 
 















 
4/17/2013 1:44:06 PM EDT
[#5]
I see one of those over my range......i'll claim I was shooting white dome clay pigeons.  
4/17/2013 1:56:19 PM EDT
[#6]
They start out white...they don't stay that way...



And this particular model (my most under powered ... for now) has reports of flight ceilings of 1,500 feet.  My octo can do that and then some...not that I've tried it though because that's illegal.



4/17/2013 3:50:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I was just looking at one of those on B&H Photo...

Phil

I looked there as well; while B&H is well regarded in the photography world, they are not at this time a DJI dealer.  With incidents of flyaways, look at Atlanta Hobby or DSLR.  I did Atlanta's GoPro package and saved $60, and they honor the warranty.

This is my third one; got it as a steady flying platform that's easy to fly....very forgiving unlike my heavy lifter octocopter


I wonder why DSLR is cheaper? is that where you ordered from?
4/17/2013 4:07:32 PM EDT
[#8]
That's badass!    More specs and pricing?!

Damn...just looked
4/17/2013 5:10:48 PM EDT
[#9]
I went to Atlanta Hobby.  I ordered it Sunday, it arrived today.  They are an approved dealer.  Bought the GoPro Hero 3 Black with it as a set and saved dough..
4/17/2013 5:12:08 PM EDT
[#10]



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That's badass!    More specs and pricing?!



Damn...just looked




As I am learning...please...that is cheap.  The octocopter was $8,000 with all the TX, FPV and ground station gear.  





 
4/17/2013 5:14:29 PM EDT
[#11]
And the Phantom can go CRAZY high...as in 1,800 feet is nothing apparently...
4/17/2013 5:42:21 PM EDT
[#12]
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And the Phantom can go CRAZY high...as in 1,800 feet is nothing apparently...


You sir have sealed the deal for me.
4/17/2013 6:49:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Yes but isn't flight time only like 10-15 min with these? Seems like I would want much more than that.....I may be wrong tho.
4/17/2013 7:51:08 PM EDT
[#14]



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Yes but isn't flight time only like 10-15 min with these? Seems like I would want much more than that.....I may be wrong tho.


Flight time is the big issue; batteries for 4 electric fan motors has a finite amount of flight time.  15 minutes is dreaming; without a camera I've seen about 13 minutes.  With a camera attached, 8-10 minutes.  But in ARFCOM fashion there are mods.  I've got a dual battery mod that will give me about 20 minutes with a GoPro Hero attached.  It all depends on the load you put on the system.

 



I also have a bank of batteries that I have ready when I use mine.  My octo is a HUGE energy eater.  Strap my Canon DSLR to the bottom and it cuts the flight time by 1/3.  More batteries = longer or at least multiple flights.
4/18/2013 5:05:17 AM EDT
[#15]
What's the best round for drones?
4/18/2013 7:03:49 AM EDT
[#16]
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What's the best round for drones?


.300 win mag.
4/18/2013 9:03:44 AM EDT
[#17]
So how far can it travel in say 10min? And is there a way to zoom in on a target with the camera while your flying it and see a live feed?


Can you mount a AGM-114 Hellfire Missile to it
4/18/2013 9:17:56 AM EDT
[#18]
Cool I've been looking at those lately think it'd be a fun hobby
4/18/2013 2:05:19 PM EDT
[#19]



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So how far can it travel in say 10min? And is there a way to zoom in on a target with the camera while your flying it and see a live feed?





Can you mount a AGM-114 Hellfire Missile to it
Phantom is rated at approximately 20mph horizontal.

 



My Octo is upwards of 45mph+






4/18/2013 2:59:34 PM EDT
[#20]
Camera setups can get very exotic.  The Phantom is designed to allow the pilot to attach a GoPro Hero 3, send it up and record.  I've modded mine by including a wireless video transmitter that plugs into the GPH3 which transmits to my ground station.



I have a 3 axis servo driven gimbals on my octocopter.  It allows for my DSLR to move and I have a wireless actuator to activate the shutter.




And these are cheap.  The guys that are introducing me into the hobby have some that are well in excess of $10,000.  Gimbals alone can run $8,000 to $15,000 without camera.
4/18/2013 6:15:04 PM EDT
[#21]
Very nice. I wish I had the coin to get into this hobby.

More pics!
4/18/2013 6:26:20 PM EDT
[#22]
I've been busy with work...I need to unbox, attach the props, do a little soldering and program my ground station to the FPV.






I'll try to get it in the air this weekend....






 
4/18/2013 7:44:25 PM EDT
[#23]



Quoted:


Camera setups can get very exotic.  The Phantom is designed to allow the pilot to attach a GoPro Hero 3, send it up and record.  I've modded mine by including a wireless video transmitter that plugs into the GPH3 which transmits to my ground station.



I have a 3 axis servo driven gimbals on my octocopter.  It allows for my DSLR to move and I have a wireless actuator to activate the shutter.




And these are cheap.  The guys that are introducing me into the hobby have some that are well in excess of $10,000.  Gimbals alone can run $8,000 to $15,000 without camera.
That reminds me that I need to buy an extra full choke for my goose gun.  





 
4/18/2013 10:04:09 PM EDT
[#24]
Are these a better deal the then Guai 330X?


4/19/2013 4:10:44 AM EDT
[#25]
Depends.  It's an open air frame; most are.  It has no GPS/Autopilot functions and with a GoPro it would be the same price if you buy the RTF version
4/19/2013 9:28:19 AM EDT
[#26]
Careful flying one during hunting season. Hate for it to be mistaken for one of the PETA drones!
4/19/2013 2:44:00 PM EDT
[#27]
Meh.... I like People Eating Tasty Animals...and you might be surprised how hard it is to hit something  that small, fast and agile....
4/19/2013 7:41:03 PM EDT
[#28]
Is there an option in place of the Go Pro to just take Hi-Rez stills?
4/20/2013 3:58:03 AM EDT
[#29]
Just about anything that is a) light weight and b) as the ability to have a remote actuator attached.



The thing is that most wireless shutter actuators are, well wireless. This is not a problem for most R/C aircraft that do not have autopilot/return to home functions.  Those that do, like the Phantom, have had issues where the airframe has flown off or right into the ground if it loses connection with the handheld/ground based transmitter.  There's lots of arguments whether wireless broadcasting from the camera may have interfered with the autopilot or not.  It also could be user/pilot error, because you don't just walk out and start flying one of these.  You have to set the compass and detect a minimum number of GPS satelites or the flight systems won't work.  You can still fly the airframe, but you lose all of the added bonuses that make the Phantom so stable to fly.




If you just want to fly line of sight, with no means of navigation or stabilizing like the Phantom or other Naza/WooKong style flight systems you can use pretty much anything that is light.  
4/22/2013 7:41:24 AM EDT
[#30]
You need some of these instead...







4/23/2013 7:43:44 AM EDT
[#31]
Interesting... I've already got a Contour 1080HD, so I might go for the cheaper kit...

http://www.atlantahobby.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=17125&idcategory=0
4/23/2013 9:46:22 AM EDT
[#32]
You can find any number of gimbals out there that will accommodate your camera; you just have to decide if you want fixed or servo driven.






We did a test flight this past weekend (without camera/fpv in case things went south).   It went scary high...its not that big to start with and when you start getting theoretically high enough to pass over the Arch, it gets even harder

 
5/8/2013 11:49:58 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Just about anything that is a) light weight and b) as the ability to have a remote actuator attached.

The thing is that most wireless shutter actuators are, well wireless. This is not a problem for most R/C aircraft that do not have autopilot/return to home functions.  Those that do, like the Phantom, have had issues where the airframe has flown off or right into the ground if it loses connection with the handheld/ground based transmitter.  There's lots of arguments whether wireless broadcasting from the camera may have interfered with the autopilot or not.  It also could be user/pilot error, because you don't just walk out and start flying one of these.  You have to set the compass and detect a minimum number of GPS satelites or the flight systems won't work.  You can still fly the airframe, but you lose all of the added bonuses that make the Phantom so stable to fly.

If you just want to fly line of sight, with no means of navigation or stabilizing like the Phantom or other Naza/WooKong style flight systems you can use pretty much anything that is light.  


What about time lapse mode on some of these point and shoot cameras?  I've never played with it before.  I'm not sure if that mode reduces resolution.
5/8/2013 12:09:26 PM EDT
[#34]
Depends. Most of the time I just shoot hi def video and copy a frame out of it, like this one taken a couple of days ago.



@ 300 ft










On the other hand, I've set my GoPro Hero3 to shoot photos every couple of seconds to get some super hi def photos so that I could enlarge them enough to see the Arch from about 10 miles out.




There's lots you can do, just dependent on your camera.
5/8/2013 1:10:06 PM EDT
[#35]
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Depends. Most of the time I just shoot hi def video and copy a frame out of it, like this one taken a couple of days ago.

@ 300 ft


On the other hand, I've set my GoPro Hero3 to shoot photos every couple of seconds to get some super hi def photos so that I could enlarge them enough to see the Arch from about 10 miles out.

There's lots you can do, just dependent on your camera.


I've never pulled stills from HD video that looked good enough to print at small poster size.  Maybe the cameras have evolved.
5/8/2013 2:36:19 PM EDT
[#36]
I don't know what platform you are running; I'm currently using a GoPro Hero3 Black and a Canon Rebel i2, hooked to brushless gimbles.  
5/8/2013 5:24:52 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Depends. Most of the time I just shoot hi def video and copy a frame out of it, like this one taken a couple of days ago.

@ 300 ft


On the other hand, I've set my GoPro Hero3 to shoot photos every couple of seconds to get some super hi def photos so that I could enlarge them enough to see the Arch from about 10 miles out.

There's lots you can do, just dependent on your camera.


BAD.
ASS.