Posted: 3/15/2013 2:04:38 PM EDT
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I'm generally not so much of a critic of local government, having been employed by it for about sixteen years before my move to Missouri. I am a critic of the Federal Government, and to a lesser extent, state governments. However, I just spent an hour and a half in a line (that was only about 10 people long) at the tax assessors office in Independence so I could get a single piece of paper that says I don't owe Missouri taxes on my two vehicles.
I arrived at about 2:25pm, and I didn't get back into my car until 3:50pm. That doesn't count the 20 minute drive each way to Independence (the only other choice in Jackson County is downtown Kansas City, I wasn't about to go down there). Basically, we moved here recently and I have to register our vehicles in Missouri. I needed this single piece of paper to prove that I don't owe Missouri property taxes on two vehicles that have never been registered in Missouri. It should be pretty easy to check, at the DMV, whether a vehicle has ever been registered in Missouri. If it has, fine, send the owner to get the proof of no taxes owned. If it hasn't, then obviously no taxes can be owed on it. They also insisted I present proof that I hadn't lived in Missouri for the last two years. The list of documents included all sorts of things that people generally don't keep copies of, like 2 year old utility bills. Luckily I owned a house in North Carolina and had two past years of January mortgage statements (they would only accept paperwork dated in January of the last two years). I'm not sure how I would have proved my non-residency in Missouri if I had owned the house outright. Anyway, the whole process was absolutely crazy. It was a huge waste of time, and there was no reason it should have taken so long. It didn't help that they had several signs telling people not to use their cell phones while conducting county business, and during the time I was in line I witnessed one of the clerks who was supposed to be processing customers make four phone calls on her cell phone. Of course I'm not done with the process. Now I have to get the odometer verified on both my vehicles, which apparently involves paying for a state inspection even though both of them are exempt from the inspection requirement since they are less than 5 years old. Then I have to take that paper, the paper from the assessors office, my proof of insurance, and my registration to the DMV, where I might be able to get license plates. It really seems like Missouri would have preferred I keep my vehicles registered in North Carolina, pay the (much lower) property taxes there, and not give them a dime. |
| Sorry to hear about that. One more reason I hate doing anything in KC. I'm not sure exactly what part of KC you live, but you can get your plates at any DMV office, even one in a smaller town where people might be a little friendlier and lines shouldn't be very long. As long as you have all the necessary paperwork, you shouldn't have any problems. If you do go this route, make sure you call, as some might not be open every day. |
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I'm generally not so much of a critic of local government, having been employed by it for about sixteen years before my move to Missouri. I am a critic of the Federal Government, and to a lesser extent, state governments. However, I just spent an hour and a half in a line (that was only about 10 people long) at the tax assessors office in Independence so I could get a single piece of paper that says I don't owe Missouri taxes on my two vehicles. I arrived at about 2:25pm, and I didn't get back into my car until 3:50pm. That doesn't count the 20 minute drive each way to Independence (the only other choice in Jackson County is downtown Kansas City, I wasn't about to go down there). Basically, we moved here recently and I have to register our vehicles in Missouri. I needed this single piece of paper to prove that I don't owe Missouri property taxes on two vehicles that have never been registered in Missouri. It should be pretty easy to check, at the DMV, whether a vehicle has ever been registered in Missouri. If it has, fine, send the owner to get the proof of no taxes owned. If it hasn't, then obviously no taxes can be owed on it. They also insisted I present proof that I hadn't lived in Missouri for the last two years. The list of documents included all sorts of things that people generally don't keep copies of, like 2 year old utility bills. Luckily I owned a house in North Carolina and had two past years of January mortgage statements (they would only accept paperwork dated in January of the last two years). I'm not sure how I would have proved my non-residency in Missouri if I had owned the house outright. Anyway, the whole process was absolutely crazy. It was a huge waste of time, and there was no reason it should have taken so long. It didn't help that they had several signs telling people not to use their cell phones while conducting county business, and during the time I was in line I witnessed one of the clerks who was supposed to be processing customers make four phone calls on her cell phone. Of course I'm not done with the process. Now I have to get the odometer verified on both my vehicles, which apparently involves paying for a state inspection even though both of them are exempt from the inspection requirement since they are less than 5 years old. Then I have to take that paper, the paper from the assessors office, my proof of insurance, and my registration to the DMV, where I might be able to get license plates. It really seems like Missouri would have preferred I keep my vehicles registered in North Carolina, pay the (much lower) property taxes there, and not give them a dime. While I totally agree with you on the license offices being slow and inefficient, the tax waiver process is a necessary evil so that our local schools and fire departments can suck every single penny that they feel they deserve , even current Missouri residents who move from county to county have to get a tax waiver. There are actually people who buy cars then don't register them or pay taxes on them and the county wants to make sure you are not one of those scumbag tax cheats. That's what they are really looking for. Proof that the cars were registered somewhere else and you weren't cheating anybody out of your well desrved taxes.
Anyway, welcome to Missouri! The semi-annual visit to the license office sucks but take heart in knowing that you moved to the fifth freeest state according to the Mercatus Center of George Mason University. Go Missouri! |
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I had something similar with my new car.
The old used one was registered to the lake house at the Lake of the Ozarks because it was closer to UCMO than St. Charles. At that time and I was going to the lake every weekend. Bought a new car last year and had to prove there was never a car in St. Charles in my name even though I had that other car at the lake that I have been paying taxes on for two years. So hour at one place for sales tax then DMV to get plates changed over. Then the BS about these plates are from a even year and you bought a odd year car. Lady behind counter was not sure how to change that. (high school part timer) All in a day off work afternoon shot to hell |
, even current Missouri residents who move from county to county have to get a tax waiver. There are actually people who buy cars then don't register them or pay taxes on them and the county wants to make sure you are not one of those scumbag tax cheats. That's what they are really looking for. Proof that the cars were registered somewhere else and you weren't cheating anybody out of your well desrved taxes.