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6/20/2011 10:45:17 AM EDT
It is my understanding that it is legal in MO to own switchblades but not carry them.
Auto assist are completely legal
Does the MO CCW cover knives and specifically switchblades?
Any insight?
I know that auto assist and switchblades are almost the same just the position of the button but just looking to clarify the laws
6/20/2011 11:24:18 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
It is my understanding that it is legal in MO to own switchblades but not carry them.
Auto assist are completely legal
Does the MO CCW cover knives and specifically switchblades?
Any insight?
I know that auto assist and switchblades are almost the same just the position of the button but just looking to clarify the laws


Okay, from memory, since the Statute website is still down.

The law on switchblades did not change with the institution of concealed carry.

We have a concealed weapons law, where a person with a CCW permit is exempt from the concealed weapons law and can carry concealed weapons upon their personage. One exception is switchblades.

We have a concealed firearms law regarding car carry (the law specifically states handguns only), where anyone 21 and older can carry concealed in their car a concealed firearm.

Knife carry does not have preemption in this state. So a local municipality can have an ordinance against the size (or type) of knife a person is allowed to carry (i.e. Kirkwood, Mo and their 1-1/2" blade limit).

So far, not much in case law contesting the concealed weapons portion of the CCW exemption. Too much armchair quarterbacking on what could or could not happen.

Bottom line: Let the buyer beware.
6/20/2011 7:44:34 PM EDT
[#3]
You could never carry a switchblade in MO unless you were on duty military or police (or you were under the federal disability excemption––because you only had use of one hand.)

You could, however, own one as a curio, relic, etc as a collector and could transport them lawfully as such.  As of Aug 28th, unless things changes, you will no longer be able to own a switchblade under this as they deleted the underlined part.
6/21/2011 7:10:16 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
You could never carry a switchblade in MO unless you were on duty military or police (or you were under the federal disability excemption––because you only had use of one hand.)

You could, however, own one as a curio, relic, etc as a collector and could transport them lawfully as such.  As of Aug 28th, unless things changes, you will no longer be able to own a switchblade under this as they deleted the underlined part.


I'd like to see a real push to get switchblades removed from the law next year. I know I will contact my rep about it. . . . actually I already have, but I'm going to follow up. The switchblade law was stupid to begin with, but now with assisted openers being sold everywhere, it's REALLY stupid.
6/23/2011 7:04:47 AM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:



Quoted:

You could never carry a switchblade in MO unless you were on duty military or police (or you were under the federal disability excemption––because you only had use of one hand.)



You could, however, own one as a curio, relic, etc as a collector and could transport them lawfully as such.  As of Aug 28th, unless things changes, you will no longer be able to own a switchblade under this as they deleted the underlined part.




I'd like to see a real push to get switchblades removed from the law next year. I know I will contact my rep about it. . . . actually I already have, but I'm going to follow up. The switchblade law was stupid to begin with, but now with assisted openers being sold everywhere, it's REALLY stupid.


I got the reply from my Senator, and their legal team verified that after August 28 anyone who currently has auto knives under the curio exemption will be guilty of a misdemeanor.



"Kurt-

I contacted our legal department regarding your questions and here is what they had to say:



      HB 294 repealed a provision in section 571.020 that allowed a person to possess a switchblade that is a curio,  ornament, or keepsake.



      Section 571.020 makes it a crime to knowingly possess, manufacture, transport, repair, or sell a switchblade knife      among other types of weapons.



      Before the law was amended by HB 294, however, section 571.020 contained an exception that allowed a person to  possess a switchblade if the possession was incident to dealing with the knife soley as a curio, ornament, or   keepsake. HB 294 repealed that exception from the law.



      Some exceptions to the law remain. Under section 571.020 as amended by HB 294, a person may possess a switchblade       in conformity with federal law if the possession:



          (1) Was incident to the performance of official duty by, or a business transaction with, the armed                          forces, national guard, a law enforcement agency, or a prison;



          (2) Was incident to a display in a public museum or exhibition; or



          (3) Was incident to a lawful dramatic performance.



      If a person knowingly possesses, manufactures, transports, repairs, or sells a switchblade knife and the person         does not meet one of the exceptions listed above, then the person commits a class A misdemeanor under the law that      goes into effect on August 28.



Another amendment could be drafted upon a legislators request for next year to either exclude switchblade knives entirely from the section 571.020 or to add the curio exception back into the law.



I hope this helped!  If you have any more questions just let me know and I'll look into it for you.



Cordially,



Jessica D. Johnson

Legislative Assistant for

Senator Brian Nieves

26th Senatorial District"



I'm also going to send this to Rep. Riddle, who told me that her bill didn't change the law regarding auto knives.



 
6/23/2011 7:32:04 AM EDT
[#6]
But why do you guys need a switchblade knife?

6/23/2011 7:46:22 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
But why do you guys need a switchblade knife?



THIS . . . from an early ad for a Schrade switchblade:


                   
Operated With One Hand.
                 No Breaking of Finger Nails.
                 Will Not Open in Your Pocket.
          Will Not Close on the Fingers When in Use.


   The Schrade Safety Push Button Knife, of which we are the
 exclusive manufacturers, is rapidly becoming the leading knife
 on the market because of its many advantages over the ordinary
 pocket knife. Being easily operated with one hand it is far
 more convenient than the old style pocket knife which
 necessitates the use of both hands to open and frequently
 results in broken finger nails... This novel knife is
 especially suitable for a gift or souvenir, as it is something
 out of the ordinary, very useful, and when furnished with one
 of our attractive handles makes an ideal gift.
6/23/2011 8:05:37 AM EDT
[#8]
But I already get all that functionality, and more, from a 100% legal non-assisted pocket knife that I use every day, including on Holidays.  
6/23/2011 8:11:22 AM EDT
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Quoted:


But why do you guys need a switchblade knife?


I see what you did there.



 
6/23/2011 4:35:57 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
But I already get all that functionality, and more, from a 100% legal non-assisted pocket knife that I use every day, including on Holidays.  


Oh sure, but can you sit in front of the TV, press a button and hear/feel that oh-so-satisfying THWACK from a switchblade?

Personally, I like knives that do something.
6/23/2011 7:24:24 PM EDT
[#11]
Some guy posted these photos over on one of the knife forums. I'm definitely jealous. I'd like to own some knives like these some day. Too bad Missouri won't allow it anymore . . .

It's probably for our own good, though. With all those knives, that guy might be able to hurt somebody.






















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6/23/2011 7:41:58 PM EDT
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Quoted:


But why do you guys need a switchblade knife?









 


It's like a pump shotgun; criminals die from fear when they hear the *click*.

6/23/2011 8:27:04 PM EDT
[#13]
Beautiful pictures......