Posted: 10/12/2010 8:32:40 PM EDT
It would seem that knocking over steel targets has become an addiction. Now that I know we can safely do them on my range I want some, many, allot.... 
Suggestions on who to go to to buy from or have made locally? Inquiring minds and all. |
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Ahh, I love shooting steel!!! If we can come up with the steel and patterns, I'm betting, I can get my boy to work his magic with his plasma cutter.... Whats the thickness of the steel? I see if he knows where we can get it at cheapest... Hes always buyin, weldin and making crap... |
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I've never shot steel. Do you have to use a certain type of round that doesn't ricochet? No to the special round. Depending on the type of steel target (falling plates, pepper poppers, etc.), the round usually flattens upon impact or ricochets down in front of the target. They can bounce back to the shooter if hit just right. I caught one in the shoulder while RSO'ing the MoCarry Picnic shoot. Just stung alittle, no bruising. 
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| Depending on how many you want it may be cheaper to buy the plates pre-cut then build the stands. Same with a plate rack. They really are not hard to make but you do get tired of setting them up all the time. I built mine like they use for steel challenge. They hang with a spring at a 20 deg angle and the ricochet goes down into the ground. Plus they don't have to be reset. |
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Quoted: Depending on how many you want it may be cheaper to buy the plates pre-cut then build the stands. Same with a plate rack. They really are not hard to make but you do get tired of setting them up all the time. I built mine like they use for steel challenge. They hang with a spring at a 20 deg angle and the ricochet goes down into the ground. Plus they don't have to be reset. Good points... We have poppers like that down @ ARPC for when we shoot steel... At each stage (usually 6 Targets) we keep a 5 Gallon bucket of Cans of White Spraypaint; inbetween each round a few guys run down there and hit'em with the paint to freshen'em up... (Kinda like Dots on the Paper Targets) Something else that can be done, is you can do a rack of them (like 6 or 8 wide) and weld up a reset bar, then you use a long rope that you pull to reset them after you shoot. I can take pic of the design down at the range if anyone needs it... |
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I have a guy who says he can cut that AR500 1/2" plate for 35 cents per inch, which works out to $4.20 per foot. He can put holes in it for mounting as well. Something to keep in mind. PM me if you'd like me to set it up. What does the AR500 run dollar wise? Is it cheaper to cut 3/8"? Where in the state is your guy? Thank you for your contribution. |
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I've never shot steel. Do you have to use a certain type of round that doesn't ricochet? No to the special round. Depending on the type of steel target (falling plates, pepper poppers, etc.), the round usually flattens upon impact or ricochets down in front of the target. They can bounce back to the shooter if hit just right. I caught one in the shoulder while RSO'ing the MoCarry Picnic shoot. Just stung alittle, no bruising. Just to add to that. It's not really a matter of IF you get hit, its whether or not you bleed when you do. Especially with jacketed bullets. |
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3/8" AR400 is perfect for pistol. If you want to shoot rifle at it, go with AR500. If you want to buy from a reputable company, you cant go wrong with MGM targets. All of their stuff is AR500. Ive made several of these and they arent hard. I believe they also use a laser cutter for all of their steel too. From what I've read, anything else will soften the metal and render it more susceptible to damage. But I don't really know jack about metal so feel free to disregard. |
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3/8" AR400 is perfect for pistol. If you want to shoot rifle at it, go with AR500. If you want to buy from a reputable company, you cant go wrong with MGM targets. All of their stuff is AR500. Ive made several of these and they arent hard. I believe they also use a laser cutter for all of their steel too. From what I've read, anything else will soften the metal and render it more susceptible to damage. But I don't really know jack about metal so feel free to disregard. They use a plasma cutter. It does soften the outside of the steel, but that is almost impossible to avoid. Water jet does the same thing. It is only the very outer edge that softens and it will chip when hit with rifle. It doesnt hurt the targets in any way though. I have a MGM plate rack that has been shot at in 3 major 3 gun competitions with both rifle and pistol and it has held up just fine. |
| I work for a fab shop. We have 2 lasers that can cut 1" thick, a waterjet that can cut 13" thick and a high-def plasma that can cut 3" thick. If you guys give me some sizes and shapes, I will get them quoted and maybe we can get a group buy together if the price is right. We are in Washington. |
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http://www.americangunworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=45_48&products_id=41
Not going to hotlink. I picked up one of these. It is AR500 with a couple holes..... It is only about 12-15" tall. 45% scale IPSC target. I would be up for something a little larger. I made some pistol targets out of some surplus round steel plate. it is ok with .22-45acp. 44mag put a big dent in it and rifle goes right through it. It is fun shooting the steel. |
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3/8" AR400 is perfect for pistol. If you want to shoot rifle at it, go with AR500. If you want to buy from a reputable company, you cant go wrong with MGM targets. All of their stuff is AR500. Ive made several of these and they arent hard. I believe they also use a laser cutter for all of their steel too. From what I've read, anything else will soften the metal and render it more susceptible to damage. But I don't really know jack about metal so feel free to disregard. They use a plasma cutter. It does soften the outside of the steel, but that is almost impossible to avoid. Water jet does the same thing. It is only the very outer edge that softens and it will chip when hit with rifle. It doesnt hurt the targets in any way though. I have a MGM plate rack that has been shot at in 3 major 3 gun competitions with both rifle and pistol and it has held up just fine. That's good to know. I'd be in for a group buy on a target or two. |
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Quoted: It would seem that knocking over steel targets has become an addiction. Now that I know we can safely do them on my range I want some, many, allot.... Suggestions on who to go to to buy from or have made locally? Inquiring minds and all. Consider some LaRue targets... they are auto resetting and have a lifetime, no BS guarantee... |
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I have a guy who says he can cut that AR500 1/2" plate for 35 cents per inch, which works out to $4.20 per foot. He can put holes in it for mounting as well. Something to keep in mind. PM me if you'd like me to set it up. What does the AR500 run dollar wise? Is it cheaper to cut 3/8"? Where in the state is your guy? Thank you for your contribution. The price quote I have on the steel is a couple of years old, and to be honest so is the price for the cutting, though I wouldn't expect that to change much. I can't remember if it was Ford Steel or Ford Tool Steel (two different companies, both in St. Louis that had the AR500 plate. The guy who does the cutting is in the St. Louis area. I am not sure if it's cheaper to cut 3/8, but I would imagine so. I could make a couple calls here if I ever get time between work and a wife and baby. Say the word and I'll get on it ASAP. |
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http://www.americangunworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=45_48&products_id=41 Not going to hotlink. I picked up one of these. It is AR500 with a couple holes..... It is only about 12-15" tall. 45% scale IPSC target. I would be up for something a little larger. I bought one of those too. Thought it'd be a bit taller 
I would definitely be up for something similar to this on a larger scale. Provided the price was reasonable. |
| I have large poppers on stands for $85 ea. They are made from Grade65 mild steel and will stand up to pistol caliber with no deformation indefinitely. If you want to use high power, look at the AR400 and AR500 steels. I also have silhouettes on stands ($100) , and small poppers ($35). I am in Overland Park, Kansas |
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I have large poppers on stands for $85 ea. They are made from Grade65 mild steel and will stand up to pistol caliber with no deformation indefinitely. If you want to use high power, look at the AR400 and AR500 steels. I also have silhouettes on stands ($100) , and small poppers ($35). I am in Overland Park, Kansas Personally, I'm interested in rifle-grade plates for the .223 & .308. Others may vary. Do you have a website or pictures? |
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I have large poppers on stands for $85 ea. They are made from Grade65 mild steel and will stand up to pistol caliber with no deformation indefinitely. If you want to use high power, look at the AR400 and AR500 steels. I also have silhouettes on stands ($100) , and small poppers ($35). I am in Overland Park, Kansas What are the sizes of the small and large poppers? Thanks |
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I have large poppers on stands for $85 ea. They are made from Grade65 mild steel and will stand up to pistol caliber with no deformation indefinitely. If you want to use high power, look at the AR400 and AR500 steels. I also have silhouettes on stands ($100) , and small poppers ($35). I am in Overland Park, Kansas Personally, I'm interested in rifle-grade plates for the .223 & .308. Others may vary. Do you have a website or pictures? Me too |
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The large poppers are 32" tall the small are 14" tall. Pistol caliber only. If demand is high enough I might consider selling AR400 targets, but the demand has to be there because I only work for a metal processing plant, not own it Quoted:
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I have large poppers on stands for $85 ea. They are made from Grade65 mild steel and will stand up to pistol caliber with no deformation indefinitely. If you want to use high power, look at the AR400 and AR500 steels. I also have silhouettes on stands ($100) , and small poppers ($35). I am in Overland Park, Kansas What are the sizes of the small and large poppers? Thanks |
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The large poppers are 32" tall the small are 14" tall. Pistol caliber only. If demand is high enough I might consider selling AR400 targets, but the demand has to be there because I only work for a metal processing plant, not own it Quoted:
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I have large poppers on stands for $85 ea. They are made from Grade65 mild steel and will stand up to pistol caliber with no deformation indefinitely. If you want to use high power, look at the AR400 and AR500 steels. I also have silhouettes on stands ($100) , and small poppers ($35). I am in Overland Park, Kansas What are the sizes of the small and large poppers? Thanks Is the steel strong enough to not dimple under normal distances and handgun loads? |
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Dimpling is minor. No deformation of the form is noticeable. I have a 3/8 plate that I have been shooting for over 2 years, and VERY small (1/4") dimples are all over it, no more than a 1/32" deep
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The large poppers are 32" tall the small are 14" tall. Pistol caliber only. If demand is high enough I might consider selling AR400 targets, but the demand has to be there because I only work for a metal processing plant, not own it Quoted:
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I have large poppers on stands for $85 ea. They are made from Grade65 mild steel and will stand up to pistol caliber with no deformation indefinitely. If you want to use high power, look at the AR400 and AR500 steels. I also have silhouettes on stands ($100) , and small poppers ($35). I am in Overland Park, Kansas What are the sizes of the small and large poppers? Thanks Is the steel strong enough to not dimple under normal distances and handgun loads? |
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I have large poppers on stands for $85 ea. They are made from Grade65 mild steel and will stand up to pistol caliber with no deformation indefinitely. If you want to use high power, look at the AR400 and AR500 steels. I also have silhouettes on stands ($100) , and small poppers ($35). I am in Overland Park, Kansas Hey Marshall! Long time no see! I hope all is well with you. Do you have a website or any pictures of your stuff? I'm really interested in getting some steel targets. |