Posted: 1/26/2010 10:45:47 PM EDT
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I'm sure some of you have seen this but felt like sharing, i encourage everyone to share this with loved ones
These are some of the reasons I try to keep a full tank of gas and a land phone. It may seem strange to keep certain things on hand but maybe also smart. Subject: Please read and pass on. AN ABSOLUTE MUST READ FOR EVERY AMERICAN! Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie 'Munich' was based. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard, and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took theIsraeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games. In a lecture in New York City he shared information that EVERY American needs to know –– but that our government has not yet shared with us. He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly laughed, and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. Unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred. Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East) to the Bush Administration about 9/11, a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant. Now for his future predictions: He predicts the next terror attack on the U.S. will occur within the next few months. Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they know the people onboard will never godown quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke ––that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective. For example: 1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic. 2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can't bring liquids on board. He says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his underwear; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked! Every strategy we have is reactionary. 3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates. Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future,they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel, security checks bags BEFORE people can even ENTER the airport. Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of people congregate. (i.e.,Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities (New York, San Francisco,Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as, rural America this time - the inter-lands (Wyoming, Montana, etc.). The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country(terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including rural areas. Aviv says terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas , they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away. Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but that our U. S. Government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with the facts. The world is quickly going to become 'a different place', and issues like 'global warming' and political correctness will become totally irrelevant. On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don't have to be concerned about being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to usesuicide as a front-line approach. It's cheap, it's easy, it's effective; and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to 'meet their destiny'. He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be,instead, 'homegrown', having attended and educated in our own schools and universities right here in the U.S. He says to look for 'students' who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East. These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won't know/understand a thing about them. Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the terrorist threats we will inevitably face. America still has only a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact SOON. So, what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel's, Ireland's and England's hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from an infiltration perspective as well as to pay attention to, and trust 'aware' citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens; however, our U. S. government continues to treat us, its citizens, 'like babies'. Our government thinks we 'can't handle the truth' and are concerned that we'll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism. Aviv says this is a deadly mistake. Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major cities. The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago, someone tried to steal the briefcase. In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained' that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, 'Unattended Bag!' The area would be quickly & calmly cleared by the citizens themselves. Unfortunately, America hasn't been yet 'hurt enough' by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it's their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism. Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were 'lost' without parents being able to pick them up, and about our schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there. (In New York City , this was days, in some cases!) He stresses the importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon within your family, of how to respond in the event of a terrorist emergency. He urges parents to contact their children's schools and demand that the schools too, develop plans of actions, just as they do in Israel. Does your family know what to do if you can't contact one another by phone? Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow. Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force a plan, that in the event of another terrorist attack, EVERYONE's ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc., will immediately be cut off, as this is the preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated. How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot speak to each other? You need to have a plan. If you understand, and believe what you have just read, then you must feel compelled to send this to every concerned parent, guardian, grandparents, uncles, aunts, whomever. Don't stop there. In addition to sharing this via e-mail, contact and discuss this information with whomever it makes sense to. Make contingency plans with those you care about. Better that you have plans in place, and never have to use them, then to have no plans in place, and find you needed them. If you choose not to share this, or not to have a plan in place, and nothing ever occurs –– good for you! However, in the event something does happen, and even more-so, if it directly affects your loved ones, then this e-mail will haunt you forever. Telling yourself after the fact, "I should have sent this to so and so, but deleted it as so much trash from old Bill Jones, plus, I just didn't believe it", will not change anything. You were alerted, had the chance to do something, and instead of erring on the side of caution, you chose to disregard, if nothing else, a sensible, valuable warning. Don't allow yourself to be caught unprepared. God Bless America. And those that protect her . . "Evil can only triumph when good men remain silent." edited for easier reading |
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[span style='font-size: 10pt;'] 3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates. Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future,they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved Not to knock the article, but I myself have noted this several times. I traveled in enough different airports two years back to know there are TONS of security flaws. It all boils down to inclination. If someone wants you dead, there's little you can do because you're not really safe. The majority of airport security nowadays protects planes, not passengers. There's just as many passengers during Christmas and Thanksgiving time that are in the airport BEFORE security than there are AFTER security. That's the reason I don't like the idea of giving up liberties for security, because you'll never ultimately be safe unless you lock yourself in a metal box and even then...yeah. Still though I guess if people hear it from a more reputable source(I guess?) maybe people will read into it more. Really the best solution is not give them a reason to wanna blow us up, whether it sounds wishy washy or not it will work a helluva lot better than trying to kill them all. I'm sure people will be tempted to cite that there are things like face recognition cameras and other security measures, but that doesn't physically prevent them from doing anything. It can all happen in seconds. I'm not all that convinced there's too huge a threat though as it doesn't take long to figure out the flaws and even more so it wouldn't take years to plan. I feel like a grumpy person, but I sure I wish I could get paid by congress to analyze the obvious. |
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Juval Aviv wrote the book "Vengeance" and has been proven to be a bullshit artist....
The closest thing he has ever been to a body guard is a gate guard for El Al in New York City The book has been proven to be just his Walter Mitty Fantasy... Sorry. Absolute BS all the way. |
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Juval Aviv wrote the book "Vengeance" and has been proven to be a bullshit artist.... The closest thing he has ever been to a body guard is a gate guard for El Al in New York City The book has been proven to be just his Walter Mitty Fantasy... Sorry. Absolute BS all the way. But some of the things in the article are a good idea, like to have a plan incase of an emergency and lack of communication. |
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[span style='font-size: 10pt;'] 3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates. Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future,they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved Not to knock the article, but I myself have noted this several times. I traveled in enough different airports two years back to know there are TONS of security flaws. It all boils down to inclination. If someone wants you dead, there's little you can do because you're not really safe. The majority of airport security nowadays protects planes, not passengers. There's just as many passengers during Christmas and Thanksgiving time that are in the airport BEFORE security than there are AFTER security. That's the reason I don't like the idea of giving up liberties for security, because you'll never ultimately be safe unless you lock yourself in a metal box and even then...yeah. Still though I guess if people hear it from a more reputable source(I guess?) maybe people will read into it more. Really the best solution is not give them a reason to wanna blow us up, whether it sounds wishy washy or not it will work a helluva lot better than trying to kill them all. I'm sure people will be tempted to cite that there are things like face recognition cameras and other security measures, but that doesn't physically prevent them from doing anything. It can all happen in seconds. I'm not all that convinced there's too huge a threat though as it doesn't take long to figure out the flaws and even more so it wouldn't take years to plan. I feel like a grumpy person, but I sure I wish I could get paid by congress to analyze the obvious. The part in red cracks me up. So what should we do? Implement muslim law to keep them happy? "Reason" is just not present with these people. |
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3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates. Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future,they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved Not to knock the article, but I myself have noted this several times. I traveled in enough different airports two years back to know there are TONS of security flaws. It all boils down to inclination. If someone wants you dead, there's little you can do because you're not really safe. The majority of airport security nowadays protects planes, not passengers. There's just as many passengers during Christmas and Thanksgiving time that are in the airport BEFORE security than there are AFTER security. That's the reason I don't like the idea of giving up liberties for security, because you'll never ultimately be safe unless you lock yourself in a metal box and even then...yeah. Still though I guess if people hear it from a more reputable source(I guess?) maybe people will read into it more. [span style='color: red;']Really the best solution is not give them a reason to wanna blow us up, whether it sounds wishy washy or not it will work a helluva lot better than trying to kill them all. I'm sure people will be tempted to cite that there are things like face recognition cameras and other security measures, but that doesn't physically prevent them from doing anything. It can all happen in seconds. I'm not all that convinced there's too huge a threat though as it doesn't take long to figure out the flaws and even more so it wouldn't take years to plan. I feel like a grumpy person, but I sure I wish I could get paid by congress to analyze the obvious. The part in red cracks me up. So what should we do? Implement muslim law to keep them happy? "Reason" is just not present with these people. That's easy. Just dump Our Constitution and replace it with Islamic Law, of course. Nothing else will be good enough and they will not stop taking an inch, then another, and another, etc. |
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Juval Aviv wrote the book "Vengeance" and has been proven to be a bullshit artist.... The closest thing he has ever been to a body guard is a gate guard for El Al in New York City The book has been proven to be just his Walter Mitty Fantasy... Sorry. Absolute BS all the way. But some of the things in the article are a good idea, like to have a plan incase of an emergency and lack of communication. Exactly. While his stories may indeed be complete horse puckey, the advice is sound. And honestly, his predictions are completely valid. No longer do they need such high-profile targets in high-profile cities. Multiple simultaneous smaller attacks in cities such as KC, Omaha, Cleveland, Dallas, Sioux Falls, Phoenix and/or Denver would be FAR more demoralizing. We, here in the Bible Belt, generally only see such acts of terror on the TV and are mostly removed from it and therefore IMO too complacent about the risks. That needs to change. However, IMO if such an attack did occur I would predict a far greater US retaliatory response than ever before. Think a large glass-topped parking lot where the Middle East used to be. 
Oh, and now I'm ditching my plans to go to Disneyland. Thanks a lot. 
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Really the best solution is not give them a reason to wanna blow us up, whether it sounds wishy washy or not it will work a helluva lot better than trying to kill them all.
Not trying to be argumentative, but you really need to get a better understanding of what radicalmuslim fundamentalists believe. The only 2 solutions that there are is to completely abolish all other religions and convert everyone/everything to Muslim law or to completely eradicate them from the face of the planet. I do not consider myself and expert on muslim culture, but having spent 2 years immursed in it I have a better than average understanding of what most muslims believe, be it moderate or radical. I have spent hours discussing the differences, with muslims, between American and muslim views and, as I see it and as it has been explained to me, there is no feasable solution to muslim terrorists. There is only deterance/prevention. my $.02 |
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Juval Aviv wrote the book "Vengeance" and has been proven to be a bullshit artist.... The closest thing he has ever been to a body guard is a gate guard for El Al in New York City The book has been proven to be just his Walter Mitty Fantasy... Sorry. Absolute BS all the way. But some of the things in the article are a good idea, like to have a plan incase of an emergency and lack of communication. Exactly. While his stories may indeed be complete horse puckey, the advice is sound. And honestly, his predictions are completely valid. No longer do they need such high-profile targets in high-profile cities. Multiple simultaneous smaller attacks in cities such as KC, Omaha, Cleveland, Dallas, Sioux Falls, Phoenix and/or Denver would be FAR more demoralizing. We, here in the Bible Belt, generally only see such acts of terror on the TV and are mostly removed from it and therefore IMO too complacent about the risks. That needs to change. However, IMO if such an attack did occur I would predict a far greater US retaliatory response than ever before. Think a large glass-topped parking lot where the Middle East used to be.
Oh, and now I'm ditching my plans to go to Disneyland. Thanks a lot.
Not really, Advice no matter how "Good" becomes utterly worthless when conveyed by a liar... So anything in this article that he "Observed" or "Advised" is horse puckey... Now if someone of better repute were to make such broad reaching statements then it would bear weight. His "Recent Prediction" of how many of what kind of attacks and where were made in 2005 and none happened.... He speculated they would occure within weeks... |
| I just don't see any other rational solution. Unless you plan on wiping every single muslim out, our occupation in the middle east is not helping make them hate us any less. I mean military might isn't always going to be your solution. Quite frankly the article has some truth to it, I think it boils down to a.) we have vulnerabilities in many places including airports and b.) all it takes is ONE pissed off guy/religious zealot/you name it and kablamo. If it was a lone muslim guy acting, what then? You can't send an army out to retaliate if he wasn't part of any organization, nothing, just some guy who thought in a radical way. No different than a mall shooter, it sucks, but really what do you do, but be glad he's done with and you can move on? I wish there was a very clear solution so we didn't have to waste lives, time, money, and anything else, but there simply isn't. Am I wrong? |
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That is the fatal flaw with the Islamic zealot's thinking. That kind of attack will not demoralize Americans. All that does is rally us together.
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There is nothing that really can be done to stop the lone gunman types but when it is a planned coordinated attack we should stomp them like cockroaches. The main reason there have been no large scale attacks on the US is because the last time that happened two Islamic nation strongholds ceased to exist. Middle easterners do understand strength. The last time we showed our military might was during WWII. We were called the "Paper Tiger" for the last thirty years in the middle east because we make a lot of noise but never did anything. This tiger does indeed have sharp teeth!
I just don't see any other rational solution. Unless you plan on wiping every single muslim out, our occupation in the middle east is not helping make them hate us any less. I mean military might isn't always going to be your solution. Quite frankly the article has some truth to it, I think it boils down to a.) we have vulnerabilities in many places including airports and b.) all it takes is ONE pissed off guy/religious zealot/you name it and kablamo. If it was a lone muslim guy acting, what then? You can't send an army out to retaliate if he wasn't part of any organization, nothing, just some guy who thought in a radical way. No different than a mall shooter, it sucks, but really what do you do, but be glad he's done with and you can move on? I wish there was a very clear solution so we didn't have to waste lives, time, money, and anything else, but there simply isn't. Am I wrong? |
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Terrorism is known formally as "Asymmetrical Warfare" it would be the same if we RANDOMLY killed civilians...
Generally it is used by a smaller weaker group, to combat a larger stronger group. We as a nation do NOT practice Asymmetrical Warfare, and this is why we have US ARMY Special Forces Operational Detachment Alpha teams... ODA... They interact with the locals and train Indigenous persons to perform effectively. We teach them and train them and get them to police themselves... As has been stated, Muslims are NOT the problem, Islamists ARE the problem.... More later I have to leave for work! |
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Not true according to Snopes.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/juvalaviv.asp |
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You don't really need snopes for this one, I mentioned in post three that it was BS... You can search on Juval Aviv on teh Google and find a myriad of information about this that shows the BS is thick... |