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1/16/2010 9:28:01 AM EDT
Anyone interested in getting a group together and doing their defensive pistol course?  Possibly in May?  This would give us 4 months to plan, enroll and get ammo and gear together.  I can't find any classes on the east side of the state to attend that are close.  Anyone from the STL side we can carpool to meet up with the west side guys.
1/16/2010 9:47:18 AM EDT
[#1]
IM sent.  post this in the KS forum too if you need more people.
1/16/2010 10:04:48 AM EDT
[#2]
count me in.
1/16/2010 10:13:38 AM EDT
[#3]
I'd be in. I can help organize if needed. I live close to them and know the DVC guys really well,
1/16/2010 10:52:54 AM EDT
[#4]
Where is DVC located?  Do they have a website???  Thanks, Ya'll!!
1/16/2010 10:53:07 AM EDT
[#5]
Count me in for sure, I was planning on taking one soon anyway
1/16/2010 11:07:30 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Where is DVC located?  Do they have a website???  Thanks, Ya'll!!


WEBSITE

they have their outdoor range abt 20 min south of Ottawa KS.
1/16/2010 11:54:15 AM EDT
[#7]
Hey guys, this is Lonnie, DVC would love to have another MO HTF course, I had a great time instructing the last HTF course, an I look forward to doing it again.  Talk it over amongst yourselves, and let me know if you have any questions or concerns.  I will help out with whatever you guys need to make it happen.  Myself and the rest of DVC are going to the Shot Show so we will be out of the loop next week, but will be available after.
1/16/2010 12:04:43 PM EDT
[#8]
Ok, I sent them an e-mail to see what weekend dates they have open for us in the May timeframe, give or take a little.  I will post here when I get a reply from them.  I'm assuming it will be a week or so since it was posted above that they will be at the shot show next week.  I'm fired up, from the poeple I already have in line and the posters here, we have almost enough people already!!

ETA:  I also asked then about June dates so we can have a good deal to choose from to get the most of us together and go.
1/16/2010 1:09:21 PM EDT
[#9]
Should be fun, I will see about stocking up on cash and ammo..... How much $$$ do we think for the class?
1/16/2010 1:21:31 PM EDT
[#10]
This is the standard class info, it won't be any more than this, and might be a few bucks less:

Class Length:Two Days

Description: DVC’s Defensive Pistol Course is for the shooter who has had some basic experience with handguns or the experienced shooter looking for defensive pistol skills. This two-day course will familiarize you with the handgun you are using and under professional instruction give you a working knowledge of Defensive pistol skills.

This course was developed for individuals who regularly carry a firearm for self-defense and to overcome the short comings of a basic Concealed Carry Class. The skills and drills taught at this course are not all inclusive, but you will leave this course with a broad base of knowledge of defensive Pistol tactics and Techniques.

Topics Addressed:
Defensive Marksmanship
Pistol Safety
Mechanics of the Draw
Loading and Unloading
Tactical and Emergency Reloads
Malfunction Drills
Various Shooting Positions
Shooting on the Move and Turn Drills
Introduction to Night Shooting

Ammunition Requirements: 700 Rounds Minimium

Packing List:
Centerfire Handgun (9mm/.38 Special Minimum)
Minimum 700 Rounds of Factory Ammunition
Flashlight (Spare Batteries and bulbs are a Good Idea)
Strong Side Hip Holster or Drop Leg
Quality Belt and Magazine Pouch
Minimum four Magazines or Speedloaders
Eye Protection
Ear Protection (Electronic Preferred)
Sunscreen
Rain Gear (We Train Rain or Shine)
Hat with Visor

Course Cost: $150.00
1/16/2010 4:41:12 PM EDT
[#11]
Would this be 2 days during the week, the weekend, or both(i.e. Fri/Sat etc.)?

I would be interested and could drive. Located in St. Charles County area.
1/16/2010 4:46:20 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Would this be 2 days during the week, the weekend, or both(i.e. Fri/Sat etc.)?

I would be interested and could drive. Located in St. Charles County area.


It's always been a Sat/sun.  Start is 9am, shoot til 5p/6p(w/a lunch too) then break for dinner.  you will return b4 dark for the night portion.  then shoot sun 9a/10a til.. 3p-ish...
1/16/2010 4:51:37 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Would this be 2 days during the week, the weekend, or both(i.e. Fri/Sat etc.)?

I would be interested and could drive. Located in St. Charles County area.


It's always been a Sat/sun.  Start is 9am, shoot til 5p/6p(w/a lunch too) then break for dinner.  you will return b4 dark for the night portion.  then shoot sun 9a/10a til.. 3p-ish...


thanks scottMO!

As of now, count me in.

1/16/2010 5:03:14 PM EDT
[#14]
I'm in for 2 seats depending on what actual date is selected, May is good as long as it not finals week...
1/16/2010 5:38:08 PM EDT
[#15]
My pregnant wife told me it may have to be the beginning of june.  That's why I asked them for open dates in May and June.  I also specifically asked about a weekend because I can not go through the week.  East side guys I figured could meet up Friday night at a pre-determined rally point then convoy there.  I was just gonna ask them about sleeping in the car or camping out.  Others can do as they wish.  I will keep everyone posted when they get back to me with dates.

As far as I'm concerned, everyone is welcome to come.  I don't care what someones skill level is, we can all better ourselves.  I also don't care how many we get to come as long as they can instruct large groups.  I'll ask them about class sizes and instructor to student ratio.  I personally don't need tons of 1 on 1.  Just instruct me, show me, let me go at it, then coach me on what I can do better and How I need to accomplish that.  as long as we are all safe, have fun and learn, I'm a happy camper.
1/16/2010 5:46:10 PM EDT
[#16]
The 1st time we attended the class, we stayed at the Meth-house motel for 35.00 for 3 people.  It included missing carpet and hot plate marks in the counter top.  After a full day/night I was so tired, I really didnt care.   The next time, we went all out and spent 60.00? for a normal hotel.  I believe DVC would/does allow onsite camping but am not positive.  

You guys are getting me all excited abt the class, and I'm not even going...  
1/16/2010 8:22:09 PM EDT
[#17]
I'd most likely be in for two people maybe three, since the one we were going to take last year got cancelled.
1/16/2010 9:42:29 PM EDT
[#18]
Learned a lot and had a ton of fun! Worth every penny.





And my wifey.

1/17/2010 4:48:58 AM EDT
[#19]


Dang, I've never gotten so much as a call from him.  I thought we had something special.
1/17/2010 6:23:46 AM EDT
[#20]


Scotts always been kind of a whore.
1/17/2010 7:15:48 AM EDT
[#21]
I'll vote for late May, after turkey season....lol!!!!
1/17/2010 9:33:44 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I'll vote for late May, after turkey season....lol!!!!


This or early june is what I am thinking.  But we also have a holiday in there to think about.
1/18/2010 3:47:53 PM EDT
[#23]
Yeah.  I was  there last year and look forward to doing it again.

Without trying to stir things up, I wonder if it might be practical to drop a few hours of pistol time and insert the same amount time in an "express" tactical carbine  session.

You know, variety is the spice of life!

Ed
1/19/2010 2:16:10 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Yeah.  I was  there last year and look forward to doing it again.

Without trying to stir things up, I wonder if it might be practical to drop a few hours of pistol time and insert the same amount time in an "express" tactical carbine  session.

You know, variety is the spice of life!

Ed


If this is something everyone is interested in, I will ask them about a hybrid class.  I'd be interested and maybe do something like pistol Saturday, carbine Sunday.  I'll need to know everyone's opinion pretty quick because they said they are trying to finalize their schedule (yes, I'm waiting on a date response but they have contacted me)

ETA: I sent them an e-mail to check if it's even possible for them to do for us.
1/19/2010 4:05:49 AM EDT
[#25]
A "hybrid" class does sound fun!!!  Either way, depending on dates, count me in for 2!!
1/19/2010 5:56:26 AM EDT
[#26]
Depending on dates, I may also be in for 2.
1/19/2010 6:32:00 AM EDT
[#27]
I think both myself and my wife would be very intrested...tentatively put me down for 2.....
1/19/2010 10:31:34 AM EDT
[#28]
I would be very interested in this.  And, a hybrid class would be cool with me, I need refreshers on both!

Just don't make it the first weekend in May.
1/19/2010 10:55:34 AM EDT
[#29]
I'd be interested in the hybrid class.  

by the replies, this might even get split into two different classes/dates so all can attend???
1/21/2010 8:11:43 AM EDT
[#30]
It sounds like the majority are up for a Sat/Sun class. Is there any way we could do another class on Friday/Saturday?


I'm a preacher, so getting Sundays off is, uh, problematic.
1/21/2010 1:05:15 PM EDT
[#31]
I think you'll have to ask dvc.  Do what our pastor does, get a fill in!  My FIL is a preacher, I'll get him to do it for ya.
1/21/2010 1:18:24 PM EDT
[#32]
I'm pretty sure the DVC guys would be happy to put together whatever and whenever training we wanted as long as we can fill it.

I'll go in Monday to talk to them after SHOT.
1/21/2010 4:55:42 PM EDT
[#33]
I'd be tentatively interested in it pending its late May onward and is pistol only.  Is 4 mags a firm requirement or is 3 ok?  I guess also, would it already be filled up? Not sure what kinda limit there is.
1/21/2010 5:06:29 PM EDT
[#34]
My $0.02 only, but I'd imagine "four mag minimum" is there because  they mean four really is the minimum.  

i guess it depends on your mag capacity and all, but the whole idea is that there are set breaks where you can reload and if you don't have sufficient magazines to make it to those breaks, everyone else in the class has to wait while you reload, etc.

What would you be shooting?  Might be able to borrow a magazine from someone...
1/21/2010 5:17:19 PM EDT
[#35]
Beretta PX4 in 9, but I can pick up another mag by then really.  That definitely is a luxury having many months to make sure everything is squared away.
1/21/2010 7:02:50 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Beretta PX4 in 9, but I can pick up another mag by then really.  That definitely is a luxury having many months to make sure everything is squared away.


And, you'll want an extra extra mag.  You'll be putting a ton of rounds downrange in a variety of positions and possibly rain/mud.  Odds of a mag getting full of mud, bent when stepped on by multiple guys, etc is very high in classes like this.  In fact, if possible, you really want to bring a full backup set of a second gun, holster, mags, extra ammo, etc.  I'm not even kidding here.  You'll see me there with a minimum of two pistols and their assoc. gear and/or two carbines with their gear.  Makes for a heavy load in the trunk, but it definitely beats missing out on the course cause your mainspring broke, sight fell off, etc.
(I've never needed my extra gear *knock on wood* but you know the saying: Better to have and not need....)
1/21/2010 7:06:39 PM EDT
[#37]
Ideals vs reality in this case.  I hear ya as I used to race karts and we would have two of everything pretty much, but being a college student still and just wanting to be proficient in something I bought, training makes sense.  Stocking up on mags is feasible, two of everything not so much.
1/21/2010 7:14:47 PM EDT
[#38]
As long as they can set it, the date I've asked about is June 12-13.  As long as this is acceptable to everyone and they can set it we're good.  I'll let everyone know when they e-mail me back.  I expect it will be AFTER they get home from the shot show, so that means probably next week.  Does anyone know about MAX class sizes?  I haven't gotten that answer yet.
1/22/2010 4:05:28 AM EDT
[#39]
That date works for me! Count me in for 2!!!
1/22/2010 4:30:40 AM EDT
[#40]
In the past, both classes I attended , maxed out abt 12-14.

Were you planning on having a pistol only class or a hybrid pistol/rifle?  there may be enough support to have 1 class of each on different dates?
1/22/2010 6:16:11 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I'm a preacher, so getting Sundays off is, uh, problematic.


Call in sick.  

Oh, and tentatively count me in too for the June 12-13 dates.

ETA: Folks might want to think about adding some training on the other end of the shooting spectrum in theform of some low speed, high accuracy style shooting.  To that end I will recommend an Appleseed shoot.  I know Pioneer Gun Club wants to host another summer Appleseed shoot at their outdoor range South of Bates City, East of KC.

1/22/2010 7:42:39 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm a preacher, so getting Sundays off is, uh, problematic.


Call in sick.  

Oh, and tentatively count me in too for the June 12-13 dates.

ETA: Folks might want to think about adding some training on the other end of the shooting spectrum in theform of some low speed, high accuracy style shooting.  To that end I will recommend an Appleseed shoot.  I know Pioneer Gun Club wants to host another summer Appleseed shoot at their outdoor range South of Bates City, East of KC.



Calling in sick has its own problems. In addition to the moral problem, my congregation has a lot of sweet little old ladies who care about me. If I called in sick, I'd have three of 'em on the doorstep with chicken soup wondering where I was.

Can't do that weekend anyway. I'm going up to Des Moines for a Triathlon on the 12th. Oh well, maybe next time.

Please keep us informed about the Appleseed shoot.

1/22/2010 7:58:48 AM EDT
[#43]
I'm planning on going sometime after physical therapy is finished.  Not sure exactly when but after I get to feeling real comfortable again.  Wayne called DVC when I went down to his house to pick up my DW Valor and they offered me a class.
1/22/2010 10:39:22 AM EDT
[#44]
...June 12-13....in for 2.....
1/22/2010 8:02:52 PM EDT
[#45]
Any confirmation yet on whether or not its a hybrid, pistol only, or both? I only have the luxury to be able to do pistol only so it'd be nice to know.
1/22/2010 8:05:04 PM EDT
[#46]
hasn't been decided yet.  DVC guys are at SHOT. Going to start getting it formally planned out when they get back.  

We can probably get them to run as many classes as we can fill, in whatever configurations we want, I'm sure.
1/22/2010 10:00:16 PM EDT
[#47]
I think a hybrid class would be great for arfcommers.  And by arfcommers I mean "me".

This is still one of my favorite pics, taken at last year's arfcommer heavy pistol class:
1/23/2010 4:01:32 AM EDT
[#48]
WOW, I started something good, looks like we may have enough for a couple classes. I'll post an update as soon as they get back from SHOT and return my e-mail :)  I'm all fired up about this!!!!!
1/27/2010 10:25:37 AM EDT
[#49]
Hey guys, glad to see the interest in some upcoming classes. We can definately accomodate you guys and get some classes in the works. If you don't mind, give us until next week to iron a few things out on scheduling and we'll get back here next week and get this moving forward. Again, thanks for the interest and we'll look forward to seeing you in a class soon.
1/27/2010 3:13:29 PM EDT
[#50]
Bare in mind if the class is in the rainy season it may be canceled due to rain. Just something to think about..
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