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12/31/2006 5:46:50 PM EDT
I'm getting ready to take the CCW class for here in Missouri which is my permanent residence.  If i choose to apply for the Utah or Florida non-resident permit do i need the Missouri permit also or can i just get only a Utah permit and have it be valid in MO.

The reason i would like to do this is b/c the permit lasts longer and is a lot cheaper.  

Any info would be great.

Thanks
12/31/2006 5:56:08 PM EDT
[#1]
You can get just the Utah or Florida permit and still carry in MO, yes.  

Keep in mind that the UT permit is a firearm only permit, whereas MO is a weapon permit that can allow you to carry knives, batons, tasers, stuff like that.  Not sure about the FL one in regards to it being a weapon or firearm only permit.

I recommend getting a MO permit along with the others though.  Lots of reasons why, but at the very least, it 'supports' the MO permit system if you get it.  Just remember to get it on a state ID card and not your drivers licence.

12/31/2006 7:04:10 PM EDT
[#2]
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 Just remember to get it on a state ID card and not your drivers licence.



what is the difference?
12/31/2006 7:22:13 PM EDT
[#3]
When you got the Driver's license bureau to get the ID you have a choice of having getting a new driver's license with the CCW endorsement on it or getting a state ID with the CCW endorsement on it.  Most people get the state ID, that way if someone other than LEO asks for your ID you don't have to show them that you CCW.
1/1/2007 5:51:45 AM EDT
[#4]
If you are a vet then get the florida. Why? becaue your DD214 counts as firearms training and you can skip the $100+ class equired for missouri. I can't tell you anything about the Utah but I do have a Mo. and Fl. permit. I will definitely renew the FL. in a few years, I *might* renew my Mo. this year.
Fl. costs 117.50 (new) and is good for 5 years, Mo. costs 100.00 (new,also had to lay out another 100.00 for the class) and is only good for 3 years.
1/1/2007 8:12:29 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
When you got the Driver's license bureau to get the ID you have a choice of having getting a new driver's license with the CCW endorsement on it or getting a state ID with the CCW endorsement on it.  Most people get the state ID, that way if someone other than LEO asks for your ID you don't have to show them that you CCW.


+ The state ID is cheaper since your CCW will expire before the id and you will need to get it renewed.

1/1/2007 11:29:47 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Keep in mind that the UT permit is a firearm only permit, whereas MO is a weapon permit that can allow you to carry knives, batons, tasers, stuff like that.  Not sure about the FL one in regards to it being a weapon or firearm only permit.



Might check that again.  The staute allows for a "concelable firearm" IIRC.  I don't think it is an open ended weapon permit.
1/1/2007 9:36:17 PM EDT
[#7]
Actually, there is some grey area on it.  There is a place that says a person cannot conceal things like knives and tasers and firearms.  But, then there is a portion of the CCW statutes that says that doesn't apply to a CCW permit holder.  Number 4 below.  So, I don't really know why I felt the need to mention it.  Guess I was just thinking of more reasons to push for the MO permit.    One would also reason that we had to qualify with both revolvers and automatic firearms for the permit, and there was no mention or qualifing with bladed weapons or batons.  Perhaps one of our trainers or lawyers can clear this up for us?

Missouri Revised Statutes
Chapter 571
Weapons Offenses
Section 571.030

August 28, 2006

Unlawful use of weapons--exceptions--penalties.

571.030. 1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:

(1) Carries concealed upon or about his or her person a knife, a firearm, a blackjack or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use; or
...
(8) Carries a firearm or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any church or place where people have assembled for worship, or into any election precinct on any election day, or into any building owned or occupied by any agency of the federal government, state government, or political subdivision thereof; or
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(10) Carries a firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any school, onto any school bus, or onto the premises of any function or activity sponsored or sanctioned by school officials or the district school board.
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4. Subdivisions (1), (8), and (10) of subsection 1 of this section shall not apply to any person who has a valid concealed carry endorsement issued pursuant to sections 571.101 to 571.121 or a valid permit or endorsement to carry concealed firearms issued by another state or political subdivision of another state.