Posted: 1/31/2004 9:16:18 AM EDT
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I'm almost positive i've seen someone here in the Missouri forum that is educated on AK47's. My question is; There is a preban Polytech AK47 on the AK board for $850. I know Polytech is the way to go, and I know it has a stamped receiver but I don't know if it's worth $850. i'd appreciate any input I can get. Thank you, Straitshot |
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For that kind of money get an Arsenal AK instead. Shit, you could get 2 WASR-10 hicaps or 2 SAR-s for that kind of money! Ak's an AK. I cant see paying more than $500 for ANY AK! They are all rock solid. I guess it just depends on how much cash you wanna waste. Man for $850 you could get a WASR-10 hicap for $270. A $94 Chinese 75 round drum, 10 Polish 30 round synthetic mags for $100. New K-var stockset for $80. RSA trigger group for $80. And a KOBRA sight for $165 (if you can find one!) and 1000 rounds of Wolf HP!!! That would be one bad-ass AK!!! Are you looking for the pricey AK's for a reason? Here's my SAR-1 in all it's transformed splendor!  BetaMO, you should show this guy a pic of your 'Plum Persueder'[sp]! |
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I agree with Metalman. Since it is possible that the assault weapon ban will sunset in 8 months, then it does not make sense for you to spend that kind of money for the extra features like bayonet lug, threaded muzzle, flash hider or folding stock. If the ban really expires this Sept. you can pick any foreign made AK, put enough US parts in it, then you can have all those features legally. Pls correct me if I am wrong here. Keeping the imported parts count to 10 or less comes from the 1989 assault weapon import ban (which is permanent, no sunset). But once this is done, the rifle is regarded as US made rifles. So with the 94 ban gone, I dont see any reason you cannot put all those evil features back on. |
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I say wait on it. When the bas sunsets all of these "Pre ban" rifles will go back to beeing just what they are. Old guns. You could pick it up for A song then. But if you really want one now I recommend either AK-usa ( www.ak-103.com ) Or A milled one from Arsenal (can't remember their site). Either one of those would be A fine addition to anyones collection. |
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Decent price for a Polytech. But if it's just a fixed stock AK, I'd pass. I am not as sure about the AWB sunsetting as some of the rest of the folks. And if it doesn't, I suspect preban prices will spike a little. But the only thing you get on a preban fixed stock AK is a bayo lug, as you can have a slant break, or 74 break, legally attatched (albeit permanently). If you can find a preban underfolder on the other hand, that might be a different story. Even if the AWB sunsets, and you can buy a legal american made underfolder, there will still be NO MORE chinese or hungarian AK's imported. Hence, they will still hold some collector value. But maybe not as much as before. |
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Hey Shamus, here's the part where you are supposed to plug the fact that you have an FFL and you have a SAR-1 for sale on these very EE boards. Ya gotta shake it if you got it, baby! www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=122&t=193575  $350 plus shipping, if we can get Straitshot to come to the next MODCC shoot he could even avoid the shipping and transfer fees! Whaddaya think, Strait? Significantly the same rifle, stamped reciever, same caliber, half the cost. Which allows you to buy lots of mags, a couple cases of ammo, and still have plenty left over! Now Shamus if he buys the rifle I want a finder's fee of, um, getting to shoot a magazine through your M1a! That's right dude, I'm gettin compensated! 
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First of all, thank you all for your input. The primary reason I was checking out the Polytech is because i'm told they are the best and it is preban so I thought it may hold it's resale value fairly well. After getting advice from you guys though I have decided not to get it. I would however be interested in the SAR1 Shamus is selling. Any chance you could throw in one Hicap mag Shamus? I could probably pick it up at the next shoot as I found my way to CMMG yesterday. Again, thank you all for the info. Straitshot |
I was under the impression that they could just renew it before it sunsets, or simply pass another similiar (or worse) bill. No? Regardless, I doubt it's going to sunset permanently. Straitshot, email sent regarding the SAR1 Duke, why didn't I think of that! 
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Unfortunately the whole pre-ban market is bullshit as much as the post ban is. If you think about it, there are no really true AK's out there in America. All of 'em have some bastard part in them that exempts them from being truly an AK from Romania, Bulgaria, Egypt (ick) , etc. Frankenstein's monster syndrome. Collectability is an illusion if there are no AK's with all their original parts. Jeez, and after all the work I have done on my SAR-1 it has more American parts than it does Romanian!! I can't wait to see the stink historians will be fuming about in 50 years!!! "Damn Americans chopping up perfectly good AK's....haaarumph!" That, or there will be a show on how creative Americans are with what they have, and all the cool AK's will be a historically significant part of our bizzare culture. Really I think the whole reliability and fun factor of the AK is its only selling point here in the US. Its been proven (by the Russian military most importantly) that milled receivers are overkill anyway!! They provide no actual advantage over the stamped receivers. In fact a hindrance, because of the added weight!! As far as the ban sunsetting, don't hold your breath. Politicians do a really good job of pulling the rug out from under their constituents! Just wait on that one. Until then get a good cheap AK, and buy a ton of ammo and stuff to make it a super AK, and wait on the politics. NEVER, let politics in the way of having fun!!!! 
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Actually Metalman, the Chinese and Hungarian AK's were real AK's. Albeit semi-auto. In fact, some of the Chinese guns were manufactured on the same lines that the full auto ones were. No American parts in them. And you can in fact have a real full auto AK47, and not one with American parts. But it will cost you $10,000! I agree with you though, it's amazing how ingenious we as Americans can be. The politicians sure thought they had the pistol grip Ak's gone for good with the 89 ban. They damn sure didn't forsee us getting around their laws due to the US parts count! |