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Posted: 7/5/2017 6:59:54 AM EDT
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Are these the same pollsters that predicted a Hillary win?
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Posted: 7/5/2017 9:54:01 AM EDT
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Are these the same pollsters that predicted a Hillary win? |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 1:50:14 AM EDT
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Good, I hope its between Moore and Brooks.
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Posted: 7/6/2017 1:50:02 PM EDT
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Good, I hope its between Moore and Brooks. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 4:20:25 PM EDT
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Fuck Mo Brooks. As long as he is pushing his CC legislation for congresscritters only, I'll have nothing to do with him Luther Strange will do the same thing if the Turtle tells him too. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 4:30:15 PM EDT
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There's three turds in this race. Mo Brooks is the least shitty.
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Posted: 7/6/2017 7:57:01 PM EDT
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There's three turds in this race. Mo Brooks is the least shitty. I agree about the three turds. I disagree about Brooks being the least shitty. AFAIK he's the only one to push legislation that hurts my ability to CC |
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Posted: 7/7/2017 10:37:59 AM EDT
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I agree and disagree. I agree about the three turds. I disagree about Brooks being the least shitty. AFAIK he's the only one to push legislation that hurts my ability to CC |
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Posted: 7/9/2017 10:25:58 AM EDT
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I agree and disagree. I agree about the three turds. I disagree about Brooks being the least shitty. AFAIK he's the only one to push legislation that hurts my ability to CC |
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Posted: 7/10/2017 11:34:47 PM EDT
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Congress Critters want the ability to carry weapons in DC while leaving the rest of us unarmed. Once they arm themselves they won't care about legislation to allow us to cc |
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Posted: 7/11/2017 12:44:55 PM EDT
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Congress Critters want the ability to carry weapons in DC while leaving the rest of us unarmed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree and disagree. I agree about the three turds. I disagree about Brooks being the least shitty. AFAIK he's the only one to push legislation that hurts my ability to CC |
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Posted: 7/11/2017 5:44:24 PM EDT
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For all practical purposes, you already can't carry in DC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree and disagree. I agree about the three turds. I disagree about Brooks being the least shitty. AFAIK he's the only one to push legislation that hurts my ability to CC |
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Posted: 7/11/2017 6:32:39 PM EDT
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Yeah I fail to see how that is taking anything away from US, they are just giving themselves special status... like always. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree and disagree. I agree about the three turds. I disagree about Brooks being the least shitty. AFAIK he's the only one to push legislation that hurts my ability to CC |
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Posted: 7/11/2017 7:14:18 PM EDT
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There is legislation to make it legal for ANYONE with a CCP to be able to carry nationwide. Instead of supporting this legislation, Mo Brooks introduced his own bill that would apply only to congress. If his bill passes and they are able to arm themselves, they will never vote for national reciprocity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree and disagree. I agree about the three turds. I disagree about Brooks being the least shitty. AFAIK he's the only one to push legislation that hurts my ability to CC |
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Posted: 7/11/2017 11:34:29 PM EDT
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There is legislation to make it legal for ANYONE with a CCP to be able to carry nationwide. Instead of supporting this legislation, Mo Brooks introduced his own bill that would apply only to congress. If his bill passes and they are able to arm themselves, they will never vote for national reciprocity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree and disagree. I agree about the three turds. I disagree about Brooks being the least shitty. AFAIK he's the only one to push legislation that hurts my ability to CC The 2011 bill he co-sponsored died in the Senate. https://www.congress.gov/member/mo-brooks/B001274?q={"senate-committee":"Judiciary"}. Brooks co-sponsored a 2015 bill that never made it out of sub-committee. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/986/all-info http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/04/alabama_lawmakers_join_push_to.html In addition to the Congress carry bill - which I can't stand either - Brooks still advocates for national reciprocity after the attack in Alexandria. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/21/mo-brooks-congress-needs-national-reciprocity-special-carry-ability/ "We ought to be able to pass a reciprocity bill. If you’ve been approved for a concealed carry permit in one state, that ought to be good in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.” June 21st, 2017. |
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Posted: 7/11/2017 11:35:50 PM EDT
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Brooks supports national reciprocity. He has backed national reciprocity legislation in the past. The 2011 bill he co-sponsored died in the Senate. https://www.congress.gov/member/mo-brooks/B001274?q={"senate-committee":"Judiciary"}. Brooks co-sponsored a 2015 bill that never made it out of sub-committee. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/986/all-info http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/04/alabama_lawmakers_join_push_to.html In addition to the Congress carry bill - which I can't stand either - Brooks still advocates for national reciprocity after the attack in Alexandria. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/21/mo-brooks-congress-needs-national-reciprocity-special-carry-ability/ Like I said before, Strange is the swampiest candidate of them all. If you want Mitch McConnell to replace Jeff Sessions then vote for "Big Luther". |
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Posted: 7/12/2017 8:33:21 AM EDT
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Brooks still supports national reciprocity. He has backed national reciprocity legislation in the past. The 2011 bill he co-sponsored died in the Senate. https://www.congress.gov/member/mo-brooks/B001274?q={"senate-committee":"Judiciary"}. Brooks co-sponsored a 2015 bill that never made it out of sub-committee. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/986/all-info http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/04/alabama_lawmakers_join_push_to.html In addition to the Congress carry bill - which I can't stand either - Brooks still advocates for national reciprocity after the attack in Alexandria. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/21/mo-brooks-congress-needs-national-reciprocity-special-carry-ability/ "We ought to be able to pass a reciprocity bill. If you’ve been approved for a concealed carry permit in one state, that ought to be good in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.” June 21st, 2017. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree and disagree. I agree about the three turds. I disagree about Brooks being the least shitty. AFAIK he's the only one to push legislation that hurts my ability to CC The 2011 bill he co-sponsored died in the Senate. https://www.congress.gov/member/mo-brooks/B001274?q={"senate-committee":"Judiciary"}. Brooks co-sponsored a 2015 bill that never made it out of sub-committee. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/986/all-info http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/04/alabama_lawmakers_join_push_to.html In addition to the Congress carry bill - which I can't stand either - Brooks still advocates for national reciprocity after the attack in Alexandria. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/21/mo-brooks-congress-needs-national-reciprocity-special-carry-ability/ "We ought to be able to pass a reciprocity bill. If you’ve been approved for a concealed carry permit in one state, that ought to be good in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.” June 21st, 2017. 
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Posted: 7/12/2017 12:01:38 PM EDT
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I think what CKyleC is saying is that there will be no incentive for the others. I'm finding myself defending Mo Brooks in this thread which is strange, because I don't like the guy. I was shooting at a WMA range a few weekends ago and a guy volunteering for Brooks' campaign asked me if I wanted a sign for my yard and I basically told him the same thing I said in my first post in this thread: Brooks is the most palatable turd of the three major candidates. |
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Posted: 7/12/2017 9:45:06 PM EDT
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I think what CKyleC is saying is that there will be no incentive for the others. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree and disagree. I agree about the three turds. I disagree about Brooks being the least shitty. AFAIK he's the only one to push legislation that hurts my ability to CC The 2011 bill he co-sponsored died in the Senate. https://www.congress.gov/member/mo-brooks/B001274?q={"senate-committee":"Judiciary"}. Brooks co-sponsored a 2015 bill that never made it out of sub-committee. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/986/all-info http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/04/alabama_lawmakers_join_push_to.html In addition to the Congress carry bill - which I can't stand either - Brooks still advocates for national reciprocity after the attack in Alexandria. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/21/mo-brooks-congress-needs-national-reciprocity-special-carry-ability/ "We ought to be able to pass a reciprocity bill. If you’ve been approved for a concealed carry permit in one state, that ought to be good in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.” June 21st, 2017. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 10:07:32 AM EDT
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Exactly. And he won't support it either, after his bill. If he had put as much effort in to National Reciprocity as he has his bill, I'd be all for him. However, he knows congress loves to vote themselves special privileges. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree and disagree. I agree about the three turds. I disagree about Brooks being the least shitty. AFAIK he's the only one to push legislation that hurts my ability to CC The 2011 bill he co-sponsored died in the Senate. https://www.congress.gov/member/mo-brooks/B001274?q={"senate-committee":"Judiciary"}. Brooks co-sponsored a 2015 bill that never made it out of sub-committee. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/986/all-info http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/04/alabama_lawmakers_join_push_to.html In addition to the Congress carry bill - which I can't stand either - Brooks still advocates for national reciprocity after the attack in Alexandria. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/21/mo-brooks-congress-needs-national-reciprocity-special-carry-ability/ "We ought to be able to pass a reciprocity bill. If you’ve been approved for a concealed carry permit in one state, that ought to be good in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.” June 21st, 2017. Also, I think your statement about level of effort regarding Congressional Carry vs. National Reciprocity is inaccurate. The Congressional Carry bill is currently in subcommittee. The 2011 National Reciprocity bill that Brooks co-sponsored made it a lot further down the legislative road than Congressional Carry has. Also, I forgot in my earlier post that Brooks was an original co-sponsor of the 2017 Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. Strange appears to be very pro-RKBA, but I personally don't care for his ties to Bentley or friendliness with McConnell. Other than the expected "I support gun owners" type of fodder from Roy Moore, I couldn't find anything he has specifically done that would lead me to believe that Moore is pro-RKBA. I would have expected to have found a voting record fir Moore on any State Supreme Court cases relating to the RKBA, but I couldn't find any. Surely some exist... |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 9:16:01 PM EDT
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That incentive Brooks, Strange, Moore, or any politician has to pass National Reciprocity is fulfilling Rule #1 of an elected official: getting and keeping a job. Have you contacted Brooks to tell him that if he wants your vote for Senate then he needs to get National Reciprocity attached to or combined with the Congressional Carry bill? Also, I think your statement about level of effort regarding Congressional Carry vs. National Reciprocity is inaccurate. The Congressional Carry bill is currently in subcommittee. The 2011 National Reciprocity bill that Brooks co-sponsored made it a lot further down the legislative road than Congressional Carry has. Also, I forgot in my earlier post that Brooks was an original co-sponsor of the 2017 Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. Strange appears to be very pro-RKBA, but I personally don't care for his ties to Bentley or friendliness with McConnell. Other than the expected "I support gun owners" type of fodder from Roy Moore, I couldn't find anything he has specifically done that would lead me to believe that Moore is pro-RKBA. I would have expected to have found a voting record fir Moore on any State Supreme Court cases relating to the RKBA, but I couldn't find any. Surely some exist... The reason Brooks' bill got farther in less time is because he put major weight and tv time behind it. How many times have you seen anyone on tv pushing National Reciprocity? That's my point, PUSH LAWS FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST CONGRESSCRITTERS!! |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 10:56:37 AM EDT
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I have tried to contact Brooks multiple times. I have to make up an address from his house district. He won't respond. This pisses me off. If you're running for a statewide seat, respond to statewide constituents. The reason Brooks' bill got farther in less time is because he put major weight and tv time behind it. How many times have you seen anyone on tv pushing National Reciprocity? That's my point, PUSH LAWS FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST CONGRESSCRITTERS!! PO BOX 4678 HUNTSVILLE, AL 35815 256-279-8228 https://twitter.com/mobrooksforsen https://www.facebook.com/mobrooksforsenate/ |
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Posted: 7/19/2017 9:12:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2017 11:07:38 AM EDT
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Luther Strange is running commercials attacking Mo Brooks.
This doesn't change my opinion of Mo Brooks, but it makes Luther Strange look like a jerk. Is this what Luther considers a "winning" strategy? https://youtu.be/TxqIUOdc908 |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 4:45:08 PM EDT
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Luther Strange is running commercials attacking Mo Brooks. This doesn't change my opinion of Mo Brooks, but it makes Luther Strange look like a jerk. Is this what Luther considers a "winning" strategy? https://youtu.be/TxqIUOdc908 |
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Posted: 7/24/2017 11:35:39 AM EDT
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I had a poll call me yesterday asking about the Senate race and who'd I vote for etc. They had a list but the top three were Strange, Moore, and Brooks. Moore was the first so I think it was a pollsters for his group.
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Posted: 7/24/2017 4:02:02 PM EDT
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What really bothers me is that Strange is going to make people mad at both him and Brooks which will let Moore into the office.
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Posted: 7/30/2017 9:50:52 AM EDT
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New poll shows Roy Moore and Luther Strange tied.
http://www.wbrc.com/story/35982088/exclusive-new-poll-finds-strange-and-moore-in-statistical-tie-for-gop-senate-race |
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Posted: 7/30/2017 10:18:52 AM EDT
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New poll shows Roy Moore and Luther Strange tied. http://www.wbrc.com/story/35982088/exclusive-new-poll-finds-strange-and-moore-in-statistical-tie-for-gop-senate-race  I'm betting that it will be a run-off between Strange and Brooks.
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Posted: 8/2/2017 11:52:08 AM EDT
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Out of curiosity what's the problem with Moore?
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Posted: 8/2/2017 12:38:37 PM EDT
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And now the NRA-ILA is running ads in North Alabama i support of Strange. I have called them and emailed to let them know I am not happy about it. Out of Brooks, Moore and Strange, Strange would be the last person to get my vote.
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Posted: 8/2/2017 5:42:53 PM EDT
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Out of curiosity what's the problem with Moore?
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Posted: 8/5/2017 12:00:36 AM EDT
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So I raised the "CCW for me and not for thee" issue with Mo Brooks. His response was this:
...lest there be any confusion, as a staunch supporter of the 2nd Amendment Right to Bear Arms, I believe all law-abiding citizens should be able to conceal carry. That is why I am an original cosponsor of H.R. 38, the Conceal Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017, to extend national reciprocity to all qualified individuals, as well as numerous other pieces of legislation ensuring that the rights guaranteed under the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution are not infringed upon. Checked H.R. 38 Co Sponsors and Mo is there. |
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Posted: 8/5/2017 12:30:55 PM EDT
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If the polls are correct, it will be a runoff between Moore and Strange.
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Posted: 8/5/2017 4:34:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/5/2017 4:38:57 PM EDT
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Out of curiosity what's the problem with Moore? Was removed form the State Supreme Court for issuing orders to Circuit Court clerks to not marry same-sex couples. Funny how the state has taken over marriage, which was defined as a religious covenant for thousands of years.... |
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Posted: 8/5/2017 10:38:39 PM EDT
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If the polls are correct, it will be a runoff between Moore and Strange.
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Posted: 8/7/2017 2:36:27 PM EDT
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Chuck Norris endorses Ten Commandments Judge Roy Moore for Senate in Alabama special election |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 9:39:45 PM EDT
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Ill take Mo over the other two.
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Posted: 8/8/2017 4:54:31 PM EDT
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The current thinking now is that the Left is pumping up Luther Strange in the polls to get a Strange/Moore runoff. The problem is that the Mo Brooks vote will probably go to Roy Moore, which is the one that the Left wants the Least.
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Posted: 8/8/2017 6:27:13 PM EDT
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Perry Hooper Jr. endorsed Luther Strange at Hoover Tactical today. Luther Strange has locked up the Mountain Brook vote.
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Posted: 8/8/2017 11:02:57 PM EDT
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And Trump endorses Luther Strange.
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Posted: 8/15/2017 8:38:59 PM EDT
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LOL. Roy Moore rides his horse in to vote.
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Posted: 8/15/2017 8:55:54 PM EDT
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And Trump endorses Luther Strange. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 11:25:16 AM EDT
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So did the NRA. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 9:42:23 PM EDT
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It should be interesting to see what effect further statements by Trump, (if any) have on the results of the runoff.
Quite a few of Moore's voting base were Trump supporters. |
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Posted: 8/17/2017 4:25:37 PM EDT
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This election was an embarrassment for the state. Bitch McConnell bought this election.
'Yeah! luther Strange is pro-gun so he must be OK!'
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Posted: 8/17/2017 5:10:49 PM EDT
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This election was an embarrassment for the state. Bitch McConnell bought this election. 'Yeah! luther Strange is pro-gun so he must be OK!' |
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Posted: 8/17/2017 7:11:16 PM EDT
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It should be interesting to see what effect further statements by Trump, (if any) have on the results of the runoff. Quite a few of Moore's voting base were Trump supporters.
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Posted: 8/17/2017 7:13:45 PM EDT
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This election was an embarrassment for the state. Bitch McConnell bought this election. 'Yeah! luther Strange is pro-gun so he must be OK!'
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