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7/24/2006 7:25:18 PM EDT
TBS and I have discussed putting on an emergency medic session in the coming months. I will need a little time to prepare some material for it and would like some input on what things people are interested in. My thoughts were to approach each topic in two distinct ways
1)basic trauma information for behaving in a situation in which SHNHTF (shit has not hit the fan) and paramedics/hospital will be available
2) SHTF or you are in the wilderness and something needs to be done right then.

Topics:
Head trauma
Airway
Vascular injuries
penetrating injuries - gunshot wounds, stabs, etc.
Fractures
Environment - burns, hyperthermia, hypothermia
Sutures, wound closure

I don't want to make this overwhelming and will try to keep the topics straight-forward with only major points being reinforced. My goal is to give everyone some basic training of what to do when you are first on the scene at a major car wreck, a friend shoots himself in the leg hunting, etc.

There is one issue with doing this. Everyone must agree that I will not be liable if you abuse any information provided. If you decide to do a crichothyrotomy on your cousin because he has a little cough, you are on your own!
The majority of the information I will provide will be common knowledge and pose no threat to the person you are helping, but some things that I think can be useful in a SHTF situation can be dangerous if used inappropriately.

What do you think? I am shooting for end of September of October.
7/25/2006 6:06:02 AM EDT
[#1]

count me in.

ETA:  something in addition to consider is a materials list of what first aid supplies you might should keep in your auto, camping, at work, etc.
7/25/2006 6:51:41 AM EDT
[#2]
I'm in. I can provide you with a liabilty waiver to get the students to sign.
7/25/2006 11:36:32 AM EDT
[#3]
I hate to do a liability waiver, but I don't think anybody will mind signing and it will put me at ease to cover all topics that I think may be useful.

Beetle, that is an excellent idea and I will put something together. Anybody have any suggestions on how they want to do this? Powerpoint, handouts, skills lab style, etc.?

I wanted to start planning a good ways in advance so we can get things organized and because most of us have tight schedules. Any paramedics or medically trained members would be a great help in spreading the load of information.
7/25/2006 11:52:31 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I hate to do a liability waiver, but I don't think anybody will mind signing and it will put me at ease to cover all topics that I think may be useful.

Beetle, that is an excellent idea and I will put something together. Anybody have any suggestions on how they want to do this? Powerpoint, handouts, skills lab style, etc.?

I wanted to start planning a good ways in advance so we can get things organized and because most of us have tight schedules. Any paramedics or medically trained members would be a great help in spreading the load of information.


In this day and time, I wouldn't teach someone how to pick their nose with a waiver.

Usually a blend of powerpoint, handouts and hands on. Powerpoint to go over course objectives, plans and basic teaching points. Handouts for basic medic kit constuction, references etc.
7/25/2006 11:54:20 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I hate to do a liability waiver, but I don't think anybody will mind signing and it will put me at ease to cover all topics that I think may be useful.

Beetle, that is an excellent idea and I will put something together. Anybody have any suggestions on how they want to do this? Powerpoint, handouts, skills lab style, etc.?

I wanted to start planning a good ways in advance so we can get things organized and because most of us have tight schedules. Any paramedics or medically trained members would be a great help in spreading the load of information.


you could post a list of the materials so that each person can bring their own to learn by in the skills lab type setup.
7/27/2006 6:13:17 AM EDT
[#6]
i think the waiver is a must.

as much as i would like to see some advanced techniques taught, my personal feeling is we should gear this toward the first reponder/emt-b level to start <with the exception of wound closing>

this should keep down the liability aspect.

i'd also reccomend field immobilisation procedures, monitoring of vital signs, how to intereact with the EMS/FIRE/PD that respond <ie....what information to provide them with, how to assist>, shock management, snake bites, reactions to poisonous plants.

Simple is the best route, maybe we can also discuss medkit loadout and what you need and don't need for an everyday responder kit.

my certs are about 15 yrs out of date but i will be happy to help out if i can.
7/27/2006 6:15:35 AM EDT
[#7]
as for course material. POwerpoint and other things is great, but i think basic hands on will actually stick with people more.

basic discussion of technique followed up with lab and discussion. this will be a small enough group we should be able to get some real one on one time and make it useful.