Posted: 1/4/2012 2:07:40 PM EDT
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Pathetic. Can't get what they want so they just take their ball and go home. Just like last year. None of us could likely get away with that at our jobs. Heck, I couldn't look myself in the mirror if I behaved this way. Every one of them needs to be turned out when their term is up.
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Why can't they just vote without them? It's one thing if there is a blizzard and they can't be there, but not coming in when they have the aility is bullshit. There is no reason they an tcome in and just vote against it if they don't like it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Pathetic. Can't get what they want so they just take their ball and go home. Just like last year. None of us could likely get away with that at our jobs. Heck, I couldn't look myself in the mirror if I behaved this way. Every one of them needs to be turned out when BEFORE their term is up. Fixed. Their actions are inexcusable, what a pathetic bunch of cry babies these losers are. Everyone of them should be recalled. It's either their way or the highway, and the nutless republicans will cave every time. There could be only one democrat in the entire legislature and every repub would still bend over to kiss its ass and submit to its will. My faith in any of the current repulican leadership is all but gone. |
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Quoted: if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. Care to explain how this is "union busting", by not FORCING someone to pay union dues. If people love their unions so much, then by all means they can continue sending in their Democratic Party Donations. |
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So what if its union busting anyway. I hate the fact my tax dollars for road repair end up in the hands of union management. A person should have the right to not pay union dues and avoid the whole fiasco that is paying someone to speak for what you can say yourself. Once all the union working rules are shutdown we can really begin to emerge as an economic powerhouse.
We have lost thousands of jobs from companies because of the way the laws are set up. Companies don't want union representation. It is not because they want to screw their workers either. They want to have a flexible modern workforce that can be adjusted to meet any needs and a changing business environment. Unions completely hamper all flexibility with their policies and lack of adaptation to change. A lawyer will get you way more than a union rep these days anyway. The faster unions go away, the faster those people looking for work can find jobs. |
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if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. Care to explain how this is "union busting", by not FORCING someone to pay union dues. If people love their unions so much, then by all means they can continue sending in their Democratic Party Donations. by not paying dues, and still getting the benefits and safe working conditions that the union negotiated with the company. Not all unions are pro democratic, the heavy equipment operators here (NW Indiana) have supported the republicans for some time. IF it wasn't for the unions, we would be working in unsafe working conditions (no OSHA), have children as young as 5 doing dangerous jobs, 6 to 7 days a week with company script that wear only good at the "company store". |
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if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. Care to explain how this is "union busting", by not FORCING someone to pay union dues. If people love their unions so much, then by all means they can continue sending in their Democratic Party Donations. by not paying dues, and still getting the benefits and safe working conditions that the union negotiated with the company. Not all unions are pro democratic, the heavy equipment operators here (NW Indiana) have supported the republicans for some time. IF it wasn't for the unions, we would be working in unsafe working conditions (no OSHA), have children as young as 5 doing dangerous jobs, 6 to 7 days a week with company script that wear only good at the "company store". Come on with the union rhetoric? There was admittedly so, a time and place for unions. In a modern economy, there is just no need to have representation when employers have to fight so hard to retain the best employees. The best way to represent yourself to your employer is to work hard and show up everyday with a good attitude. If they treat you like crap after that, find something else. You can't buy me for I WILL work for another company if mis-treated. Here is another reaseon why non-union members are discriminated against |
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1. Wyoming
2.North Dakota Alaska - no right to work South Dakota Utah Texas Montana - no right to work Oklahoma Louisiana Top ten states for economic growth in 2010 and 2011. I would like Indiana to be up there somewhere so more Hoosiers find work. Wyoming almost doubled its GDP in 2010 from 2009. Most of these states are reaping benefits of the energy boom from natural gas and wind energies started during the Clinton and Bush presidencies. |
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Quoted: Well if you like what your Union is doing then you can continue to pay them. Quoted: Quoted: if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. Care to explain how this is "union busting", by not FORCING someone to pay union dues. If people love their unions so much, then by all means they can continue sending in their Democratic Party Donations. by not paying dues, and still getting the benefits and safe working conditions that the union negotiated with the company. Not all unions are pro democratic, the heavy equipment operators here (NW Indiana) have supported the republicans for some time. IF it wasn't for the unions, we would be working in unsafe working conditions (no OSHA), have children as young as 5 doing dangerous jobs, 6 to 7 days a week with company script that wear only good at the "company store". |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. Care to explain how this is "union busting", by not FORCING someone to pay union dues. If people love their unions so much, then by all means they can continue sending in their Democratic Party Donations. by not paying dues, and still getting the benefits and safe working conditions that the union negotiated with the company. Not all unions are pro democratic, the heavy equipment operators here (NW Indiana) have supported the republicans for some time. IF it wasn't for the unions, we would be working in unsafe working conditions (no OSHA), have children as young as 5 doing dangerous jobs, 6 to 7 days a week with company script that wear only good at the "company store". Why do you think people should be denied the freedom to choose those things for themselves? |
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if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. Care to explain how this is "union busting", by not FORCING someone to pay union dues. If people love their unions so much, then by all means they can continue sending in their Democratic Party Donations. by not paying dues, and still getting the benefits and safe working conditions that the union negotiated with the company. Not all unions are pro democratic, the heavy equipment operators here (NW Indiana) have supported the republicans for some time. IF it wasn't for the unions, we would be working in unsafe working conditions (no OSHA), have children as young as 5 doing dangerous jobs, 6 to 7 days a week with company script that wear only good at the "company store".
You honestly think that in 2012 we'd have 6 year olds working in mines if it weren't for unions? You can't be serious. Any employee should have the right to decide if they want to pay dues or not. |
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by not paying dues, and still getting the benefits and safe working conditions that the union negotiated with the company. Not all unions are pro democratic, the heavy equipment operators here (NW Indiana) have supported the republicans for some time. IF it wasn't for the unions, we would be working in unsafe working conditions (no OSHA), have children as young as 5 doing dangerous jobs, 6 to 7 days a week with company script that wear only good at the "company store". Seriously? Stop drinking the koolaid the Commissar's are giving you. That might have applied 100 years ago, but no way that would happen in 2012. It's time to get Indiana on track with job growth and throw off the over-bearing yoke that corrupt unions have on us. They are the death of companies and this nation. Oh and before you say anything about me not understanding unions, I was a Teamster once. I will never, ever, work at a place that has a union. |
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if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. Care to explain how this is "union busting", by not FORCING someone to pay union dues. If people love their unions so much, then by all means they can continue sending in their Democratic Party Donations. by not paying dues, and still getting the benefits and safe working conditions that the union negotiated with the company. Not all unions are pro democratic, the heavy equipment operators here (NW Indiana) have supported the republicans for some time. IF it wasn't for the unions, we would be working in unsafe working conditions (no OSHA), have children as young as 5 doing dangerous jobs, 6 to 7 days a week with company script that wear only good at the "company store". You sound just like my father in law. "If it wasn't for the unions we'd all be working 96 bajillion hour weeks!!!! Kids would be working!!!! No vacation ever!!!!" He worked for IH in Fort Wayne. How'd that work out for him? I'm not going to say that unions didn't have their place, but if you are so blind as to see that the ones doing the abusing now are the unions, there is no help for you. Using the logic you stated above, we should all be union members as we are all "freeloading" on the unions. We should also all be voting for the workers party. Wait, I think there is a term for that....... |
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if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. Care to explain how this is "union busting", by not FORCING someone to pay union dues. If people love their unions so much, then by all means they can continue sending in their Democratic Party Donations. by not paying dues, and still getting the benefits and safe working conditions that the union negotiated with the company. Not all unions are pro democratic, the heavy equipment operators here (NW Indiana) have supported the republicans for some time. IF it wasn't for the unions, we would be working in unsafe working conditions (no OSHA), have children as young as 5 doing dangerous jobs, 6 to 7 days a week with company script that wear only good at the "company store". You sound just like my father in law. "If it wasn't for the unions we'd all be working 96 bajillion hour weeks!!!! Kids would be working!!!! No vacation ever!!!!" He worked for IH in Fort Wayne. How'd that work out for him? I'm not going to say that unions didn't have their place, but if you are so blind as to see that the ones doing the abusing now are the unions, there is no help for you. My Dad worked for IH in the Louisville Forge. He kept telling his co-workers that striking at that time was not a wise ideal. He had a plan to retire from IH when he was 50. It took him to 60 when he went to work for Brown-Forman. To this day he hate unions, the UAW is particular, with a passion. |
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if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. Care to explain how this is "union busting", by not FORCING someone to pay union dues. If people love their unions so much, then by all means they can continue sending in their Democratic Party Donations. by not paying dues, and still getting the benefits and safe working conditions that the union negotiated with the company. Not all unions are pro democratic, the heavy equipment operators here (NW Indiana) have supported the republicans for some time. IF it wasn't for the unions, we would be working in unsafe working conditions (no OSHA), have children as young as 5 doing dangerous jobs, 6 to 7 days a week with company script that wear only good at the "company store". You sound just like my father in law. "If it wasn't for the unions we'd all be working 96 bajillion hour weeks!!!! Kids would be working!!!! No vacation ever!!!!" He worked for IH in Fort Wayne. How'd that work out for him? I'm not going to say that unions didn't have their place, but if you are so blind as to see that the ones doing the abusing now are the unions, there is no help for you. My Dad worked for IH in the Louisville Forge. He kept telling his co-workers that striking at that time was not a wise ideal. He had a plan to retire from IH when he was 50. It took him to 60 when he went to work for Brown-Forman. To this day he hate unions, the UAW is particular, with a passion. I wish he hated the unions. He's still hard-core. Now that he is older and retired he just sits and watches MSNBC all day. Drives me nuts. He keeps telling me that we should be union at work. I keep telling him, Why would I want to have my wage based off of the least productive person at our company? I've proven that I am a very valuable employee to this company time and time again. I'll negotiate myself thank you. |
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if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. Care to explain how this is "union busting", by not FORCING someone to pay union dues. If people love their unions so much, then by all means they can continue sending in their Democratic Party Donations. by not paying dues, and still getting the benefits and safe working conditions that the union negotiated with the company. Not all unions are pro democratic, the heavy equipment operators here (NW Indiana) have supported the republicans for some time. IF it wasn't for the unions, we would be working in unsafe working conditions (no OSHA), have children as young as 5 doing dangerous jobs, 6 to 7 days a week with company script that wear only good at the "company store". You sound just like my father in law. "If it wasn't for the unions we'd all be working 96 bajillion hour weeks!!!! Kids would be working!!!! No vacation ever!!!!" He worked for IH in Fort Wayne. How'd that work out for him? I'm not going to say that unions didn't have their place, but if you are so blind as to see that the ones doing the abusing now are the unions, there is no help for you. My Dad worked for IH in the Louisville Forge. He kept telling his co-workers that striking at that time was not a wise ideal. He had a plan to retire from IH when he was 50. It took him to 60 when he went to work for Brown-Forman. To this day he hate unions, the UAW is particular, with a passion. I wish he hated the unions. He's still hard-core. Now that he is older and retired he just sits and watches MSNBC all day. Drives me nuts. He keeps telling me that we should be union at work. I keep telling him, Why would I want to have my wage based off of the least productive person at our company? I've proven that I am a very valuable employee to this company time and time again. I'll negotiate myself thank you. When my Dad retired, I took him over to the local Teamsters hall so he could be taken off the roll. He had to pay something like $5 to get off the rolls. He paid them in a bag of pennies and then tore the card up in front of them. |
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If unions were responsible for ending child labor, their motivation was that the kids were taking their jobs.
I know a bunch of union guys who could care less if unions were banned completely, and I know some who love their unions for some unknown reason (sense of belonging, genetic, guilt?). I also know some lazy worthless turds that wouldn't have a job pumping gas had they not snuck into a union job where somebody covers their ass like coveralls. Funny, they both make the same pay, but guess which ones get more done in a day. I'm proud to be union free, and I make better money than most where I work. I work smarter and do a better job than others, and I am getting ahead on personal merit. |
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The presence of a union in a workplace is a response to bad management. What constitutes bad management: (1) Inconsistent and non-uniform application of the rules (2) Maintaining an unsafe working environment. Every union contract has management's signature on it. If there are to be no unions, there needs to be good management. As long as human beings are involved, there will be bad managers. Thus, there will be unions.
As for the RTW issue, achieving solidarity is the union's responsibility and their's alone. Only the government has the power to levy a tax and by giving the unions legal authority to force payment of dues from unwilling participants (theft?) or cause a severe penalty for non-payment (termination), freedom is diminished. If the union is truly needed (see above paragraph) and serves its members well, there should be no force of law necessary to encourage membership. |
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if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. AMEN BROTHER , The Republicans doing the usual ... protecting the Rich |
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if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. AMEN BROTHER , The Republicans doing the usual ... protecting the Rich I guess you are posting from the local Occupy protest? |
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if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. AMEN BROTHER , The Republicans doing the usual ... protecting the Rich I think the Republicans protect all workers. Obama says we need jobs.... no keystone pipeline though. He says we need open borders but he is at the UAW hall saying more jobs for Americans. As much as the union workers make (overpaid in all manufacturing), who is really protecting the rich? $917 = Median weekly earnings in 2010 of union members. $717 = Median weekly earnings in 2010 of non-union workers. That's a yearly difference in salary of $10,400 for union members vs. non-union members. Again guys, who is protecting the rich? |
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if right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. AMEN BROTHER , The Republicans doing the usual ... protecting the Rich I think the Republicans protect all workers. Obama says we need jobs.... no keystone pipeline though. He says we need open borders but he is at the UAW hall saying more jobs for Americans. As much as the union workers make (overpaid in all manufacturing), who is really protecting the rich? $917 = Median weekly earnings in 2010 of union members. $717 = Median weekly earnings in 2010 of non-union workers. That's a yearly difference in salary of $10,400 for union members vs. non-union members. Again guys, who is protecting the rich? One thing I have yet to understand is this class warfare thing the Union fat cats, the Democrats and OWS slugs keep pushing off on us.. What do the participants expect to gain by destroying the ability of people to achieve the American dream and get rich? What's wrong with being successful and why does the American left want to destroy those who are? |
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I agree. Quoted: Quoted: AMEN BROTHER , The Republicans doing the usual ... protecting the Richif right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. |
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AMEN BROTHER , The Republicans doing the usual ... protecting the Richif right to work really did work, then shouldn't Mississippi be an economic powerhouse????????? nothing but union busting on a statewide level. the coward Republicans should be truthful and say that. You posting from the local Occupy stink fest too?
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RIGHT TO WORK PASSED!!!!!!!!!!! Worked so well in Oklahoma can't wait. Doing great for North Dakota. Are you saying it will create a large number of oil field related jobs in Indiana. Can't wait. |
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Quoted: I read an article that some union protesters were outside the home of one of the bill's co-authors raising a stink. Supposedly they were there only an hour. Told my wife that they probably needed a union break. I believe they didn't do their due diligence in making sure those with senority were allowed to protest first. They had to shut down the protest until that could be resolved. |
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I read an article that some union protesters were outside the home of one of the bill's co-authors raising a stink. Supposedly they were there only an hour. Told my wife that they probably needed a union break. I believe they didn't do their due diligence in making sure those with senority were allowed to protest first. They had to shut down the protest until that could be resolved. |

