Posted: 7/28/2006 2:04:33 PM EDT
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I just bought a place of my own (I'm psyched!! he I won't know dimensions I'll be needing until later, but for now just think something that can hold 10 or so long guns with plenty of shelf space for ammo out the yin-yang and several pistols. Thanks, all! **** I don't know what a BTT is, but I read something that said I should edit my own post instead of replying to someone else's in my own thread. That said, Scotty, that's a pretty great deal! I'm going to look it up on the Sam's Club website and I may take you up on that offer since I am not a member. However, I don't know if keeping water in a safe full of guns is good for them. I'll be in touch when I find out more. |
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I think you should just keep the guns under your pillow. You could always buy a Sentry safe that holds 10 or so long guns and then stack weights at the bottom to make it heavier. Then again, unless you are living in the basement, I wouldn't think that the floor can handle the load of a heavy safe. |
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sams club has a great safe for about 600, its a winchester and something like a 12 gun maybe more . the one by the inner harbour has one is stock. and if your not a memeber i will met you there and use my card for the purchase. if you get a non fire rated safe you can put a gallon or two of water on the top shelf and that keep the safe cool for a good while if it ever gets in a fire. |
Can you explain the reasoning behind why putting a gallon of water on the top shelf would work? Do you mean inside the safe or outside? I would think that this would just fill your safe with steam, so that your firearms would not only burn but also corrode in high temperature steam. |
okay the way a fire safe is rated is here and most of the time gun safes are rated for 350 degrees. what this means is after 30 mins in a 1800 to 2000 degree fire the inside of the safe wont get over 350 degrees. so if you have a standard rated fire safe after a 30 min fire you guns have been exposed to up to 350 degrees. which is enough to start charing or at least severely drying any wood out. now if you have a safe that is not fire rated and you put water in it the safe should only reach 212 until all of the water is boiled off. if you just put a sealed gallon jug in the safe, it will pop open at some point when the water gets hot enough. yes it will add a lot of moisture inside the safe, but it will keep the temp down. which is better guns that are chared ( inside of a non fire safe ) or guns with some surface rust? i had my old house catch fire, the temp on the second floor ( fire was in the kitchen ) got hot enough to melt the plastic tv, computer monitor, vcr, dvd etc that where in my bedroom. at the time i had a cheapo stack on fire safe with a gallon of water in it. in the safe i had an old airsoft mp5 plus several guns, the airsoft was unharmed, and all the guns got a good wipe down with oil after the fire was out, not one gun rusted, and yes the gallon was about half boiled off it is not as good as a true fire rated safe but it works, or you could go buy a sheet of fire rated drywall and tear out the inside of your safe and line it your self, then rebuild the inside. i hate to say it if your house catches on fire a little rust is the least of your worries |
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i would recommend getting a much larger safe than you need for a couple reasons. if you plan on being there awhile you dont want to upgrade again. especially having multiple renters you can lock up things other than guns. not sure how old you are but you will continue to gain assets as time goes by. if you have the roommates you will find yourself locking other things up to keep out of your roommates hands. just a suggestion but you can look at it like you are using a month or two of their rent to get a good gun safe. i got a ft knox safe from steves services in virginia. he is a great guy to duy with and will deliver it wherever you need including up or down steps. all he does is safes but stays really busy. you may not want to spend the money on a ft knox but he does take trade-ins on smaller safes from customers so he keeps used ones in stock too. here is his number if you want to see what used safes he has in stock. 703-573-4394 888-416-7226 also the BTT rule applies to the equipment exchange. you can respond as much as you want below this post. take care and welcome to the boards. |
Good to know! Thanks. Also, I called Steve and he's in the gun show at Dulles which I won't be able to attend. Left him a message and my number and we'll see what kind of deals he has when he gets back to me. Thanks for the info - I hear Fort Knox's are great. |
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if he doesnt call you back try him again. he really is busy...it took me a couple months to really get in touch with him to talk. i met him at a gun show that weekend and looked at some of the safes. i told him what i want and he delivered it that week or the next. just an awesome guy who treated me right. i am sending you an IM right now about something different. |
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Alright, on the general discussion board, the consenus seemed to lean towards this company called Sturdy. Depending on shipping, it looks like I will probably go with Sturdy for my safe. Here are the choices I've narrowed it down to: $1572 + ship for 60" x 32½" x 24" $1919 + ship for 72" x 32½" x 24" $1803 + ship for 60" x 36" x 27" All these choices include the fire liner, but no bells and whistles (which I on't really want anyway). I will probably go with option #3 if total cost is under $2000, otherwise, probably option #1. I don't plan on making a decision yet since I'm still working on a price list from Steve in VA. |
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I have checked out pricing in the past, but don't have it now. I found the pricing with an online search. They are higher than what you would pay for the same sized one- piece safe. Also, for more information, do an internet search using keywords for the article : "My experience with a Zanotti 6 piece safe. (long)." |
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im not sure that steve is the same guy. the steve i am refering to is a fort knox dealer and on the inside of the door of the same his label is listed as "Steve's Services" either way, the numbers i posted are to the Steve i have dealt with. the other name may just be another business name...not sure im just a customer and havent even spoke with him in 2-3 years. just putting that out there since i have been openly supportive to him here. |
| Thanks for all the help, but I think I'm going to go for a Sturdy safe with no fire liner. Their steel gages start at 8 and the one I am getting would be 7 so I'm already on top of most safes in the industry. Then, for the either of the sizes I want, which are 72" x 32 1/2" x 24" or 60" x 48" x 24", I will only pay about $1500 + shipping. That's a huge safe for a great price. The taller, slimmer one is 700 lbs. and the shorter, wider one is 788 lbs. I decided against the fire-liner because it adds almost $500 to the cost (for the ceramic and woven glass) but I probably won't need it. The amount of steel the safe is constructed from should protect the guns for at least a little while and where I am a total burn-down is unlikely to occur. I'm calling the people at Sturdy tonight to get some quotes on shipping and some advice, and we'll see what's what in the end. |