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6/5/2012 6:02:20 PM EDT
I considered just calling up the place to see if I could set something up over the phone but then I considered the wide reach of arfcom...

Does anyone have an in at DPMS that I could use to get an informational interview?  I am sorely tired of the work I'm doing and I am unsure if or how I could fit into the firearm industry.  But this is one piece of life that I can waste hour after hour after hour on and that seems like a good place to start.  I figure I can run over to St. Cloud if that's an option or meet over the phone.

Or if someone here knows the industry well and would be willing to talk to me about it, toss me an email, I would really appreciate it!

-TD
6/6/2012 4:42:07 AM EDT
[#1]
I don't have an in at DPMS (I wish I did because I'm in the same position as you) but according to their website if you are interested you should just send them a resume. This is what their site says:

"Employment Opportunities: If you are interested in employment with DPMS Firearms, please submit your cover letter and resume to [email protected] for consideration."

For most companies that are hiring they are not fond of people just showing up to see if there are jobs available so I don't think I would just show up asking, either. Good Luck!
6/6/2012 6:15:22 AM EDT
[#2]
I have a "in" at DPMS

What are you looking for?
6/6/2012 2:18:47 PM EDT
[#3]
Ideally, I'd like to see the place and how it works.  At least, I would like the chance to sit and talk with someone about the industry in general, DPMS in particular.  Over the phone is fine but Duluth isn't so far away to make a quick trip out.  I don't feel ready to drop a resume in the mailbox without know where or if I would even fit in.

My wife tells me that that sort of thing is called an "informational interview".  I figured I'd use the same term.  
6/6/2012 4:08:46 PM EDT
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I have a "in" at DPMS

What are you looking for?


either an engineering postion or a lawyer postion.
6/7/2012 8:16:48 AM EDT
[#5]
Thieded,

Sorry we do not give tours but if you would like to discuss the state of the industry try calling Adam Ballard at 1-320-345-9215
6/7/2012 5:48:47 PM EDT
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Ideally, I'd like to see the place and how it works.  At least, I would like the chance to sit and talk with someone about the industry in general, DPMS in particular.  Over the phone is fine but Duluth isn't so far away to make a quick trip out.  I don't feel ready to drop a resume in the mailbox without know where or if I would even fit in.

My wife tells me that that sort of thing is called an "informational interview".  I figured I'd use the same term.  


Am I the only one that is confused about what your goal is here?  If you're interested in working at DPMS you must have some idea what you would like to do there given your interests and skill set.  You're given a good opportunity to get an "in" with someone from the company and rather than utilize that to your advantage you just talk in vague generalities.  I guess if I was interested in working at DPMS and an employee there offered his ear I would take advantage.  Just my 2 cents.
6/7/2012 6:26:27 PM EDT
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Thieded,

Sorry we do not give tours but if you would like to discuss the state of the industry try calling Adam Ballard at 1-320-345-9215


Thank you.  I will give him a call and see if I can't fill in some blanks.  I appreciate the tip.
6/7/2012 6:36:47 PM EDT
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Ideally, I'd like to see the place and how it works.  At least, I would like the chance to sit and talk with someone about the industry in general, DPMS in particular.  Over the phone is fine but Duluth isn't so far away to make a quick trip out.  I don't feel ready to drop a resume in the mailbox without know where or if I would even fit in.

My wife tells me that that sort of thing is called an "informational interview".  I figured I'd use the same term.  


Am I the only one that is confused about what your goal is here?  If you're interested in working at DPMS you must have some idea what you would like to do there given your interests and skill set.  You're given a good opportunity to get an "in" with someone from the company and rather than utilize that to your advantage you just talk in vague generalities.  I guess if I was interested in working at DPMS and an employee there offered his ear I would take advantage.  Just my 2 cents.


I can see where you would be confused.  At this point, I have an interest in DPMS.  What I do not know, is if DPMS in particular IS a place I am interested in working.   I have a job (albeit unfulfilling) and I don't want to leave one job I dislike for another.  This obvious interest in guns makes me what to know about where I could fit in.

This is how I see it:   Who DPMS is.....[industry].....what DPMS makes.  I have a fairly good understanding of the ends - not the middle.  

...Maybe that is still confusing.  
6/8/2012 5:08:58 AM EDT
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Ideally, I'd like to see the place and how it works.  At least, I would like the chance to sit and talk with someone about the industry in general, DPMS in particular.  Over the phone is fine but Duluth isn't so far away to make a quick trip out.  I don't feel ready to drop a resume in the mailbox without know where or if I would even fit in.

My wife tells me that that sort of thing is called an "informational interview".  I figured I'd use the same term.  


Am I the only one that is confused about what your goal is here?  If you're interested in working at DPMS you must have some idea what you would like to do there given your interests and skill set.  You're given a good opportunity to get an "in" with someone from the company and rather than utilize that to your advantage you just talk in vague generalities.  I guess if I was interested in working at DPMS and an employee there offered his ear I would take advantage.  Just my 2 cents.


I can see where you would be confused.  At this point, I have an interest in DPMS.  What I do not know, is if DPMS in particular IS a place I am interested in working.   I have a job (albeit unfulfilling) and I don't want to leave one job I dislike for another.  This obvious interest in guns makes me what to know about where I could fit in.

This is how I see it:   Who DPMS is.....[industry].....what DPMS makes.  I have a fairly good understanding of the ends - not the middle.  

...Maybe that is still confusing.  


I am also having a hard time understanding this post.  I don't represent DPMS or any other firearms-related business, but I do run my own company and have hired many people over the last 10 years.  If someone showed up and wanted to interview ME to see if my company was a place they would be interested in working at, I'd politely tell them "no thanks" and hire someone else.  First impressions are very important when hiring new employees and they are almost always accurate.  You might be a great guy and maybe we'd be good shooting buddies outside of work, but my first impression of you from this post is that you are most likely a general malcontent looking to get more from the job than you will give.  Sound harsh?  It probably is, but I've hired and fired enough people to know to trust my instincts.  There are plenty of people out there willing to work hard at any task just to get a foot in the door and get a paycheck coming in.  To me, a guy who wants to interview me before he decides whether or not he even wants to submit a resume is not worth my time.  You are clearly of a different mindset than I am.

As a business owner, here is what my company offers:

1. A job
2. Fair compensation for your work
3. Opportunity for more

What I expect from people I hire:

1. Work worthy of what I am paying
2. Don't cause problems for me or the company

Don't like that arrangement?  No problem, the next applicant will...


Just my $.02, worth exactly what you paid for it.
6/8/2012 6:08:00 AM EDT
[#10]
When I go in for a job interview I'm interviewing the company as well as them interviewing me.  I just do it discretely and don't come out and say it.
6/8/2012 6:48:53 AM EDT
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When I go in for a job interview I'm interviewing the company as well as them interviewing me.  I just do it discretely and don't come out and say it.


Of course, as is everyone to some degree.  Discretion is the key. If you come to me and say that you are trying to decide if you want to send in your resume or not, I will quickly make that decision for you.
6/8/2012 10:06:55 AM EDT
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When I go in for a job interview I'm interviewing the company as well as them interviewing me.  I just do it discretely and don't come out and say it.


Of course, as is everyone to some degree.  Discretion is the key. If you come to me and say that you are trying to decide if you want to send in your resume or not, I will quickly make that decision for you.


I don't disagree with you.
6/8/2012 6:24:00 PM EDT
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When I go in for a job interview I'm interviewing the company as well as them interviewing me.  I just do it discretely and don't come out and say it.


Of course, as is everyone to some degree.  Discretion is the key. If you come to me and say that you are trying to decide if you want to send in your resume or not, I will quickly make that decision for you.


I don't disagree with you.


Okay, so if I was looking for positive feedback as well, how would you explore an industry?  And to erud, what I do NOT want to be is a general malcontent.  I want to know more than what I can interpolate from job descriptions.  I see a job interview as an assessment of competence and fit, not a place to find out what the company does.  The defining difference for me is that I am looking for a window into the industry not an interview for a job.  If yours is a "sewer maintenance and installation" company and I have been hanging drywall for a living, how do I know that is a jump I want to take if I don't know what sewer maintenance entails?

That's probably a bad example but I am hard pressed to think of a different analogy.

6/10/2012 4:58:11 AM EDT
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When I go in for a job interview I'm interviewing the company as well as them interviewing me.  I just do it discretely and don't come out and say it.


Of course, as is everyone to some degree.  Discretion is the key. If you come to me and say that you are trying to decide if you want to send in your resume or not, I will quickly make that decision for you.


I don't disagree with you.


Okay, so if I was looking for positive feedback as well, how would you explore an industry?  And to erud, what I do NOT want to be is a general malcontent.  I want to know more than what I can interpolate from job descriptions.  I see a job interview as an assessment of competence and fit, not a place to find out what the company does.  The defining difference for me is that I am looking for a window into the industry not an interview for a job.  If yours is a "sewer maintenance and installation" company and I have been hanging drywall for a living, how do I know that is a jump I want to take if I don't know what sewer maintenance entails?

That's probably a bad example but I am hard pressed to think of a different analogy.



What kind of information are you looking for?  I think you have a pretty good idea what DPMS does and working there would be similar to working in any manufacturing operation.  I would think that by searching the internet you would be able to find out a lot about DPMS as well as what it's like working in a manufacturing operation.
6/10/2012 7:31:30 AM EDT
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When I go in for a job interview I'm interviewing the company as well as them interviewing me.  I just do it discretely and don't come out and say it.


Of course, as is everyone to some degree.  Discretion is the key. If you come to me and say that you are trying to decide if you want to send in your resume or not, I will quickly make that decision for you.


I don't disagree with you.


Okay, so if I was looking for positive feedback as well, how would you explore an industry?  And to erud, what I do NOT want to be is a general malcontent.  I want to know more than what I can interpolate from job descriptions.  I see a job interview as an assessment of competence and fit, not a place to find out what the company does.  The defining difference for me is that I am looking for a window into the industry not an interview for a job.  If yours is a "sewer maintenance and installation" company and I have been hanging drywall for a living, how do I know that is a jump I want to take if I don't know what sewer maintenance entails?

That's probably a bad example but I am hard pressed to think of a different analogy.



You're making way too much of it.  It's DPMS.  They make guns and gun parts.  It's really not that difficult to wrap your head around.
6/10/2012 8:24:59 AM EDT
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When I go in for a job interview I'm interviewing the company as well as them interviewing me.  I just do it discretely and don't come out and say it.


Of course, as is everyone to some degree.  Discretion is the key. If you come to me and say that you are trying to decide if you want to send in your resume or not, I will quickly make that decision for you.


I don't disagree with you.


Okay, so if I was looking for positive feedback as well, how would you explore an industry?  And to erud, what I do NOT want to be is a general malcontent.  I want to know more than what I can interpolate from job descriptions.  I see a job interview as an assessment of competence and fit, not a place to find out what the company does.  The defining difference for me is that I am looking for a window into the industry not an interview for a job.  If yours is a "sewer maintenance and installation" company and I have been hanging drywall for a living, how do I know that is a jump I want to take if I don't know what sewer maintenance entails?

That's probably a bad example but I am hard pressed to think of a different analogy.



You're making way too much of it.  It's DPMS.  They make guns and gun parts.  It's really not that difficult to wrap your head around.



What is to wonder about? Either you will need skills to A- Do machine work, B- Know how to do assembly work. C- packaging (wharehouse) D- Office work or sales. Am i missing anything?

If you can do one of the above, and  they have a need, you might be able to get employed there. If your asking about DPMS as a company, from what I know they are a pretty stand up company.
6/11/2012 3:04:26 PM EDT
[#17]
This thread makes my brain hurt.  I am sure some kittens have died for this one...






"how about WE interview YOU..."
"shhh"
"shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
"now you're just sounding stupid...."
" I taste ketchup and onion"



Dude- I thinkl I get what you are trying to do...but why not just apply?  Telling a company you want to meet them to decide basically if you feel like working there juuuuuust might not go as planned.
Apply.  Get a job there.  Work you ass off.  See where it goes!!!
6/11/2012 5:34:30 PM EDT
[#18]
OP was fired before he even sent in his resume.