Posted: 10/22/2011 12:28:24 AM EDT
| I recently read something that says Kentucky does monthly NICS background checks against its CCDW holders. Does anybody know if that's true or is it just rumor? |
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I recently read something that says Kentucky does monthly NICS background checks against its CCDW holders. Does anybody know if that's true or is it just rumor? They do something. A friend had his permit suspended when he was arrested for coke possesion. After the charges were dropped( passenger in his car was actually carrying it) It was reinstated a couple weeks later. |
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That's interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean on one hand it just seems almost like an abuse of power? I'm not sure what I don't like about it, but it kind of makes me uneasy. That said, it's not like I have anything to hide and I do feel like that makes the licensing system more effective - can't legally carry a gun or go buy one despite having a little piece of plastic.
So does anyone know if that influences all the statistics I've seen that says KY has the highest rate of gun ownership of any state by a looooooong shot? I know that a lot of new firearms purchases are tracked by NICS background checks. |
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That's interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean on one hand it just seems almost like an abuse of power? I'm not sure what I don't like about it, but it kind of makes me uneasy. That said, it's not like I have anything to hide and I do feel like that makes the licensing system more effective - can't legally carry a gun or go buy one despite having a little piece of plastic. So does anyone know if that influences all the statistics I've seen that says KY has the highest rate of gun ownership of any state by a looooooong shot? I know that a lot of new firearms purchases are tracked by NICS background checks. lol Nice! where did you hear that from? |
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That's interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean on one hand it just seems almost like an abuse of power? I'm not sure what I don't like about it, but it kind of makes me uneasy. That said, it's not like I have anything to hide and I do feel like that makes the licensing system more effective - can't legally carry a gun or go buy one despite having a little piece of plastic. So does anyone know if that influences all the statistics I've seen that says KY has the highest rate of gun ownership of any state by a looooooong shot? I know that a lot of new firearms purchases are tracked by NICS background checks. Sources? The only way NICS or ATF can keep track of where a gun goes is by registering the firearm. Kentucky doesn't do that. I like the fact that they do monthly checks on CCDW holders. It keeps citizens who can't own firearms form obtaining them. |
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That's interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean on one hand it just seems almost like an abuse of power? I'm not sure what I don't like about it, but it kind of makes me uneasy. That said, it's not like I have anything to hide and I do feel like that makes the licensing system more effective - can't legally carry a gun or go buy one despite having a little piece of plastic. So does anyone know if that influences all the statistics I've seen that says KY has the highest rate of gun ownership of any state by a looooooong shot? I know that a lot of new firearms purchases are tracked by NICS background checks. link? |
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Quoted: Quoted: That's interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean on one hand it just seems almost like an abuse of power? I'm not sure what I don't like about it, but it kind of makes me uneasy. That said, it's not like I have anything to hide and I do feel like that makes the licensing system more effective - can't legally carry a gun or go buy one despite having a little piece of plastic. So does anyone know if that influences all the statistics I've seen that says KY has the highest rate of gun ownership of any state by a looooooong shot? I know that a lot of new firearms purchases are tracked by NICS background checks. link? KY businesses request an inordinate number of NICS checks in proportion to it's population per year. One year, I think there were like 5.2 million checks performed, and the state population is only about 3 million, IIRC; it's actually led to a number of ATF offices popping up in the state. About the only states that surpass KY in the number of checks requested are TX and AK, but both have a substantially larger population, leading to a lower rate of NICS checks per capita. As for the link? Well, the "shooting industry" magazine reports on the # of NICS checks requested each year (as reported by the ATF), and a number of other production/excise tax collection statistics. I would imagine that KY's population records are updated by the census. |
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That's interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean on one hand it just seems almost like an abuse of power? I'm not sure what I don't like about it, but it kind of makes me uneasy. That said, it's not like I have anything to hide and I do feel like that makes the licensing system more effective - can't legally carry a gun or go buy one despite having a little piece of plastic. So does anyone know if that influences all the statistics I've seen that says KY has the highest rate of gun ownership of any state by a looooooong shot? I know that a lot of new firearms purchases are tracked by NICS background checks. Sources? The only way NICS or ATF can keep track of where a gun goes is by registering the firearm. Kentucky doesn't do that. I like the fact that they do monthly checks on CCDW holders. It keeps citizens who can't own firearms form obtaining them. I do not like the fact that some citizens cannot own firearms. The only people that should be barred from owning firearms are people currently in prisons or in a mental institution. But that is an argument for another day. |
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That's interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean on one hand it just seems almost like an abuse of power? I'm not sure what I don't like about it, but it kind of makes me uneasy. That said, it's not like I have anything to hide and I do feel like that makes the licensing system more effective - can't legally carry a gun or go buy one despite having a little piece of plastic. So does anyone know if that influences all the statistics I've seen that says KY has the highest rate of gun ownership of any state by a looooooong shot? I know that a lot of new firearms purchases are tracked by NICS background checks. Sources? The only way NICS or ATF can keep track of where a gun goes is by registering the firearm. Kentucky doesn't do that. I like the fact that they do monthly checks on CCDW holders. It keeps citizens who can't own firearms form obtaining them. I do not like the fact that some citizens cannot own firearms. The only people that should be barred from owning firearms are people currently in prisons or in a mental institution. But that is an argument for another day. It doesnt make it any harder for felons to buy firearms. It just makes it harder for the police to track it later. But Im with you on who can or can not buy a gun.. but I have to add the people that is still on parole. |
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That's interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean on one hand it just seems almost like an abuse of power? I'm not sure what I don't like about it, but it kind of makes me uneasy. That said, it's not like I have anything to hide and I do feel like that makes the licensing system more effective - can't legally carry a gun or go buy one despite having a little piece of plastic. So does anyone know if that influences all the statistics I've seen that says KY has the highest rate of gun ownership of any state by a looooooong shot? I know that a lot of new firearms purchases are tracked by NICS background checks. Sources? The only way NICS or ATF can keep track of where a gun goes is by registering the firearm. Kentucky doesn't do that. I like the fact that they do monthly checks on CCDW holders. It keeps citizens who can't own firearms form obtaining them. I understand that where a gun goes can't be tracked without registering the gun, and I understand that KY is a free state that doesn't take part in such communist repression. What I'm talking about is the way that statistics are published to determine trends in gun sales. Let me break it down: when some news person out there is saying, "According to statistics published by the BATFE, gun sales are up this year," the place that the BATFE is getting those statistics is through the amount of NICS background checks done. Is the the most valid way of figuring it out? Nope, because of Kentucky checking CCDW holders and also because it doesn't account for all the private sales that happen, etc. But that is still the usual source for such statistics. Here is a link to one article that shows KY being way in the lead on NICS background checks done every year. The map of the United States of Awesome is what first led me to this article. I don't know how credible the source is, but there you have it. They also even mention that KY does monthly NICS checks on CCDW holders, but I apparently didn't pay attention to that... |
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I've been carrying since '09 and this is honestly the first I've heard of KY doing a nics check on CCDW holders. This has gotten me to wondering if they also do monthly NICS (or other) checks on FFL holders as well..
I happen to be both a CCDW licensee and an 07FFL holder. I wonder how many checks they do on me every month  ?
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That's interesting. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean on one hand it just seems almost like an abuse of power? I'm not sure what I don't like about it, but it kind of makes me uneasy. That said, it's not like I have anything to hide and I do feel like that makes the licensing system more effective - can't legally carry a gun or go buy one despite having a little piece of plastic. So does anyone know if that influences all the statistics I've seen that says KY has the highest rate of gun ownership of any state by a looooooong shot? I know that a lot of new firearms purchases are tracked by NICS background checks. Sources? The only way NICS or ATF can keep track of where a gun goes is by registering the firearm. Kentucky doesn't do that. I like the fact that they do monthly checks on CCDW holders. It keeps citizens who can't own firearms form obtaining them. I understand that where a gun goes can't be tracked without registering the gun, and I understand that KY is a free state that doesn't take part in such communist repression. What I'm talking about is the way that statistics are published to determine trends in gun sales. Let me break it down: when some news person out there is saying, "According to statistics published by the BATFE, gun sales are up this year," the place that the BATFE is getting those statistics is through the amount of NICS background checks done. Is the the most valid way of figuring it out? Nope, because of Kentucky checking CCDW holders and also because it doesn't account for all the private sales that happen, etc. But that is still the usual source for such statistics. Here is a link to one article that shows KY being way in the lead on NICS background checks done every year. The map of the United States of Awesome is what first led me to this article. I don't know how credible the source is, but there you have it. They also even mention that KY does monthly NICS checks on CCDW holders, but I apparently didn't pay attention to that... did i read that right, DC only had about 900 nics done... so glad i live in the bluegrass.... |
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Stupid question, since this is an open carry state, if I'm CCWing, can my pistol print/show (part of it, like coming out from under a jacket) ? no, you can not print carrying your pistol If he has his CCDW permit he can carry any way he wants. " as long as its safe and a pistol" But if he has not permit, which was not posted one way or another then you are right. p.s. nice pics you posted a ways back. |
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I’ve been arrested and charged with violent felonies a few times.
One time, my Concealed Deadly Weapons License was not revoked, since the charges were dropped before any indictment happened. However, a condition of my bail/bond was that I not possess firearms. So, I did have family and friends remove them and store them for me. Another time, I was indicted and my CDWL was revoked by the state. The case was dropped the first day of the trial, without the trial actually proceeding. LOL! While it is true that it takes guts to stand up to scum bags, (including dirty cops), you dang well better have some money in the bank. Here in KY, when they say an amount, they usually mean cash. So, forget the goofy garbage about fretting over a $250 gun versus a $750 gun. You are likely to loose the gun, but it should be the least of your worries. Bonds for violent felonies are likely going to start at around $10K … cash on the barrel head. By the way, when you are indicted here, you are re-arrested and get to go through getting bonded/bailed out again at a likely higher amount. Don’t forget, you will need at least $10K for a retainer for a decent attorney who has experience with violent felonies. Lastly, pray. During one of my experiences I did meet a Sheriff’s Deputy that was like an angel sent by God. Great guy. He handled a few of my arrest. (Gave him my cell number for anytime I was to be arrested, I preferred he do it.) Had to me one of the most decent men to ever walk the earth. It was almost spooky. It was like having an angel watching over me. As a combat medic, engineer, infantry officer, recon team lead, and having one of my degrees from a religious institution, I am not easily impressed with most people. But, this guy was unreal. Remember, the worst that can be said about me is that I have been charged with violent felonies. I’ve never actually done anything wrong like that. But, sometimes, doing the right thing can bring some trouble your way too. I’m the type of guy that does not smoke, drink at all, even avoids pain meds outside of the time of undergoing surgeries. Still, a man has to do what’s right in the face of overwhelming odds. |
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Stupid question, since this is an open carry state, if I'm CCWing, can my pistol print/show (part of it, like coming out from under a jacket) ? no, you can not print carrying your pistol If he has his CCDW permit he can carry any way he wants. " as long as its safe and a pistol" But if he has not permit, which was not posted one way or another then you are right. p.s. nice pics you posted a ways back. I don't have it yet, I'm waiting on the mail... 
I understand that without it, it must be plainly visible at all times, I was asking if with the permit, I could have it half concealed, without it being a problem. Good to know. Thanks for the info. Pics I posted, or the other guy? |