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7/24/2007 4:46:15 AM EDT
Alright fellas, there is a guy in Nichloasville that deals in CIII/Title 2 items. I want to look into seriously buying the AAC M4-1000 can.

First, I need to know the shop/guy where to start looking.
Secondly, how did you go about it? (CLEO or Trust or LLC, etc.)

Lastly... well I don't know yet. More questions to come, I'm sure.

Stump, I'll probably need your help if you're willing.
7/24/2007 5:12:21 AM EDT
[#1]
pretty sure the fayett sheriff si unwilling you'll have to do a trust, thats what i heard anyway, order a set (two) form 4's, and 2 fingerprint cards.

do you have contact info on the guy i too am looking for a m41k close to home, i may have found a dealer in morehead but i'm haveing trouble getting his contact information, guess he dosent like unwanted attention from lookyloos serious buyers only.

im looking for an m41k in stock, already ahve the papers filled out and half the prints that i need, just looking for the ebst location and one in stock.
7/24/2007 6:18:33 AM EDT
[#2]
Moonshiner is correct, you will have to do a trust here in Fayette county.  But, the trust makes everything so much simpler that it's really pretty sweet.

With the trust you won't need the CLEO sign off, fingerprints or picture.  Just the trust paperwork notorized and the form 4 filled out by the dealer.  

The first step is to get in touch with the dealer you want to use or one that has the item you want in stock.  You then need your trust paperwork in order.  You can either go through an actual attorney and set up a Revocable Living Trust, or you can get the do-it yourself software like Quicken's Willmaker and do it at home in about 15-20 minutes.

I used the software, I bought it off ebay for $20  You can't put the actual suppressor into it until after you have it in your possesion, so you just put in the software "ALL NFA Items" or whatever you want for the time being, it makes no difference.  You will go back and edit it immediately after picking up your suppressor from the dealer after the Form4 is approved, and put the suppressor and it's serial number in there.

After the trust is filled out, get it notorized and it is now a legal document here in KY, you do not have to file it with anyone in the state.

Make a copy of your Certification of Trust and mail it with the Form4 from the dealer along with a $200 check to the ATF and just wait

Feel free to message me any questions you have.  I've done the trust deal 3 times now, plus helped my friend Jon do it, with zero hiccups.
7/24/2007 6:42:54 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Moonshiner is correct, you will have to do a trust here in Fayette county.  But, the trust makes everything so much simpler that it's really pretty sweet.

With the trust you won't need the CLEO sign off, fingerprints or picture.  Just the trust paperwork notorized and the form 4 filled out by the dealer.  

The first step is to get in touch with the dealer you want to use or one that has the item you want in stock.  You then need your trust paperwork in order.  You can either go through an actual attorney and set up a Revocable Living Trust, or you can get the do-it yourself software like Quicken's Willmaker and do it at home in about 15-20 minutes.

I used the software, I bought it off ebay for $20  You can't put the actual suppressor into it until after you have it in your possesion, so you just put in the software "ALL NFA Items" or whatever you want for the time being, it makes no difference.  You will go back and edit it immediately after picking up your suppressor from the dealer after the Form4 is approved, and put the suppressor and it's serial number in there.

After the trust is filled out, get it notorized and it is now a legal document here in KY, you do not have to file it with anyone in the state.

Make a copy of your Certification of Trust and mail it with the Form4 from the dealer along with a $200 check to the ATF and just wait

Feel free to message me any questions you have.  I've done the trust deal 3 times now, plus helped my friend Jon do it, with zero hiccups.
That's the route I want to go. Um, maybe it is a bit presumptious of me but would you be willing to let me meet up with you to help me do this? I could buy the software myself and take a stab at it but since you've done it 3 times before...


I've been bitten by the damn BRD bug again, I thought I got rid of it. PM inbound to you Stump.
7/24/2007 10:33:08 AM EDT
[#4]
LMAO i just got back form the CLEO's office, i had to wait a while for him to get out of meeting and said i have some more ATF papers for you, he replied whats wrong with the half dozen i signed already.... i said "the shorty i built is too loud i need a silencer", and the 4 other deputies in the room snapped there head up... it was hillarious.

He started signing the 2 sets of form 4's and i asked how much NFA paperwork he went through, he said well i guess your the only assassin in lewis county... then he said not much. Sherrif is so easy going its crazy.

so now i just have to fidn the right dealer with one in stock, i left the manufacturer, serial and dates blank. i have the cash, the check, fingerprints, and a set of forms for my dad, and a set to transfer from him to me as i'm under 21... so i'll have to bite the $400 bullet on taxes but how many 18 y/o's do you know that can pull a can out.
7/24/2007 6:30:05 PM EDT
[#5]
The guy in N-ville is Rex.  He is a super guy.  I just picked up my Ithaca AOW from him last week.  Give him a call.  His info is in the KY dealers sticky second page about 3/4 way down the page.
Oh, I want to thank everyone for the shoot!  
7/25/2007 4:55:06 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
The guy in N-ville is Rex.  He is a super guy.  I just picked up my Ithaca AOW from him last week.  Give him a call.  His info is in the KY dealers sticky second page about 3/4 way down the page.
Oh, I want to thank everyone for the shoot!  


Thanks, JDP, I was looking for that guys information in my IM's that someone had sent me earlier in the year but couldn't find it.  I didn' even notice it listed in that topic




Rex Tyson - Class III
Kentucky Firearms
Nicholasville, KY
(859) 361-9444
NFA Transfers - $75 bucks

7/25/2007 6:10:00 AM EDT
[#7]
You guys rock! I'll try to get the ball rolling as soon as I can.
7/25/2007 10:50:19 AM EDT
[#8]
Does Mr. Tyson have cans on hand or just do transfers?

i left a message but no reply yet

edit- he has them i stock i have a m41k on reserve i have to get another set of figerprints....
7/25/2007 5:10:31 PM EDT
[#9]
Ah! I can't find out until Tuesday when I'll be back in town. I'll see if I can squeeze in a call to reserve one as well!

I'll keep y'all posted. Moonshiner, keep me posted. I swear if you get the last M41k, I'm coming after you!
7/25/2007 6:44:33 PM EDT
[#10]
hehehe.... he said he had "them" in stock i take it hes got more than one, hopefully i'll get a nice pic at serial numbers and get something memorable or unique lol.

i still have more tidying up on the paperwork to do, and i'm going to meet him next week.

Rex said 583 is the price tax included, then add your nfa tax.
7/25/2007 6:46:19 PM EDT
[#11]
Awesome. Thanks for the heads up!
7/31/2007 5:16:02 PM EDT
[#12]
hahaha i got the last one!

he says he tried to keep them in stock, just met him today but seems like an alright guy, my form 4 is going out tomorrow, he said expect a 45-60 day wait. from what ive seen in the class 3 forum most go aroudn 4-5 weeks os i expect he gives a longer date so we have a pleasant suprise.... i hope
8/1/2007 10:48:56 AM EDT
[#13]
Bah well I'm back from vacation but I decided not to get it just yet anyways! I'm about to buy a motorcycle so the suppressor will have to wait. I'm planning to get it soon however so it is not all for naught. Thanks to Stump, it should go easily when I do put in for the suppressor!

I'll keep y'all updated when I do do it.