Posted: 12/7/2014 11:08:47 AM EDT
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I can't wait any longer so Im gonna get it started. Im thinking about this stock.
AGP Folding AR15 10/22 Stock $120 isn't too bad, and it appears it does not accept a buffer/spring so it should be gtg. My only concern is what the state considers over all length. I believe federally, its 26" OAL, and they consider that dimension with the stock OPEN. Does our state law differ from that? Edited: ^Thats illegal for what Im doing. 
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We can still only have 2 evil features on our AR 22s so what are you going with.
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I can't wait any longer so Im gonna get it started. Im thinking about this stock. AGP Folding AR15 10/22 Stock $120 isn't too bad, and it appears it does not accept a buffer/spring so it should be gtg. My only concern is what the state considers over all length. I believe federally, its 26" OAL, and they consider that dimension with the stock OPEN. Does our state law differ from that? Will the 10/22 be preban? If so load it up with evil features. If not then the folding/collapsing stock gets pinned, no flash hider or bayo lug or grenade launcher. If the post ban 10/22 barrel is threaded a muzzle brake or compensator would have to be pinned to it. Edit to add: Only state length issue is keeping it over 12 for the barrel length since under that CT technically sees it as a handgun. The 30 inch over all length in the new law applies to semiautomatic centerfire rifles. |
Post ban rimfires are limited to one feature, add a second and it becomes a so called AW. Its two or more features that makes it an AW.
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Will the 10/22 be preban? If so load it up with evil features. If not then the folding/collapsing stock gets pinned, no flash hider or bayo lug or grenade launcher. If the post ban 10/22 barrel is threaded a muzzle brake or compensator would have to be pinned to it. Edit to add: Only state length issue is keeping it over 12 for the barrel length since under that CT technically sees it as a handgun. The 30 inch over all length in the new law applies to semiautomatic centerfire rifles. Quoted:
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I can't wait any longer so Im gonna get it started. Im thinking about this stock. AGP Folding AR15 10/22 Stock $120 isn't too bad, and it appears it does not accept a buffer/spring so it should be gtg. My only concern is what the state considers over all length. I believe federally, its 26" OAL, and they consider that dimension with the stock OPEN. Does our state law differ from that? Will the 10/22 be preban? If so load it up with evil features. If not then the folding/collapsing stock gets pinned, no flash hider or bayo lug or grenade launcher. If the post ban 10/22 barrel is threaded a muzzle brake or compensator would have to be pinned to it. Edit to add: Only state length issue is keeping it over 12 for the barrel length since under that CT technically sees it as a handgun. The 30 inch over all length in the new law applies to semiautomatic centerfire rifles. SB Several of us got a smoking deal on new 22lr Stripped AR receivers. See the picture thread and the cyber Monday thread. Now we just need to figure out how to build them in a compliant yet FU Dan Malloy fashion. Mike |
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Damn. And Do want.Being that it is integrated can we have it? And being that it is a barrel and not detachable do we need a ATF Stamp? SBHaven?? 
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I can't wait any longer so Im gonna get it started. Im thinking about this stock. AGP Folding AR15 10/22 Stock $120 isn't too bad, and it appears it does not accept a buffer/spring so it should be gtg. My only concern is what the state considers over all length. I believe federally, its 26" OAL, and they consider that dimension with the stock OPEN. Does our state law differ from that? Hmmm, I have a 10/22 chassis thing that accepts AR stocks Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Being that it is integrated can we have it? And being that it is a barrel and not detachable do we need a ATF Stamp? SBHaven?? Quoted:
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Damn. And Do want.Being that it is integrated can we have it? And being that it is a barrel and not detachable do we need a ATF Stamp? SBHaven?? My class 3 contact just told me its legal and does need a stamp. |
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Being that it is integrated can we have it? And being that it is a barrel and not detachable do we need a ATF Stamp? SBHaven??  http://youtu.be/DZp5xe963w0
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Damn. And Do want.Being that it is integrated can we have it? And being that it is a barrel and not detachable do we need a ATF Stamp? SBHaven?? http://youtu.be/DZp5xe963w0
One tax stamp, just for the suppressor. I like. Mike |
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This is probably for sbhaven but will take responses from anyone more knowledgable than me.
Do these barrel-end adapters count as a feature? That is, if you have a non-threaded plain muzzle (ie MP15-22 California variant) and you add this non-permanent removable adapter, does that count as a feature? Or, if the stock is pinned (like that MP15-22), it is a moot point? http://www.tacticool22.com/shop/threaded-barrel-ends-standard-c-20.html |
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This is probably for sbhaven but will take responses from anyone more knowledgable than me. Do these barrel-end adapters count as a feature? That is, if you have a non-threaded plain muzzle (ie MP15-22 California variant) and you add this non-permanent removable adapter, does that count as a feature? Or, if the stock is pinned (like that MP15-22), it is a moot point? http://www.tacticool22.com/shop/threaded-barrel-ends-standard-c-20.html I would say that since its removable, its not considered part of the bbl. I know that the atf doesn't consider a device part of the bbl unless its perm attached. 14.5 vs 16.1 AR bbls for example I would sorry that it would not be centered at times Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
| FP, there is the smallest amount of play when it is put on the barrel with the set screw fully retracted. I have read some suggestion that the thinnest of brass sheet shim material will eliminate that. I haven't found the material as yet so can't say for sure however. |
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Do these barrel-end adapters count as a feature? http://www.tacticool22.com/shop/threaded-barrel-ends-standard-c-20.html Good question. Got me. I'm not a lawyer.  I suppose it "could" be argued either way depending on how you interpret the wording of the statute. While most of us here probably wouldn't see it as being the "threaded barrel" I suppose others could because once attached becomes part of the barrel and is threaded. But since you will eventually thread something else onto that adapter it might negate that alternate interpretation.
I would assume however that one would have to pin that barrel end to the actual barrel in any case. Of course that then could be argued that by pinning it you are making it in effect an extension of the barrel itself which might then mean what ever muzzle device you screw onto the barrel end would also have to be pinned to the barrel end. 
I suppose you could email DESPP for shits and giggles to get their non legal opinion on it. 
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FP, there is the smallest amount of play when it is put on the barrel with the set screw fully retracted. I have read some suggestion that the thinnest of brass sheet shim material will eliminate that. I haven't found the material as yet so can't say for sure however. im thinking it wouldnt align with a can regardless though, unless youre lucky |
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FP, there is the smallest amount of play when it is put on the barrel with the set screw fully retracted. I have read some suggestion that the thinnest of brass sheet shim material will eliminate that. I haven't found the material as yet so can't say for sure however. im thinking it wouldnt align with a can regardless though, unless youre lucky How tight are the tolerances on, say, a SilencerCo Sparrow? Are rim fire cans any wider than center fire? Probably a question for Henson. As an aside, I was at Blue Trails one day and managed to shoot a Surefire can off the end of an AR. I hadn't tighten it fully (2 ratchet clicks rather than like 8) so fully my fault. First round loosened and second sent it down range. When we finally found it (embedded in the mud of the stream) and cleaned it, there was no physical damage at all (checked by armored friend with bores cope). Either there was enough gap in the diameter of the baffle holes, or I just got really lucky. Lesson learned that day - don't hurry when setting up your sh!t. 
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Damn. And Do want.Last I checked on those they don't convert just uppers. You have to give them or buy an already done up gun from them. Maybe I can get them to work with me on somethin. 
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