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9/27/2014 1:56:42 PM EDT
Can you guys in CT buy AR15's and FN Scars with the Radlock device installed?
AR15 and FN Scar gun sales are high in California because all the dealers sell them with this removable device installed:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyrIEx9GgLI
There is also another competing device called the Bullet Button:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CVvMZKTCW8

I was also wondering if instead of registering your currently owned AR15, if you could install one of these devices?  This way it would no longer be an "assault weapon".
I have installed some of these for friends that go shooting in California, it's quick and easy.  No permanent modification and takes about 30 seconds.

Edit:  There is also this style which opens the action:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIbqHO7F7n4
9/27/2014 2:07:39 PM EDT
[#1]
The Raddlock device, if I understand their installation/use correctly, would be a no go (as are bullet buttons) because your not disassembling the firearm action. There are two issues to get around when it comes to buying post 9/14/94 manufactured centerfire semiautomatic firearms like the AR-15 with fixed magazines here in CT. First is the ban by name language that bans "AR-15" and their copies/duplicates. The second is how the state defines a "detachable magazine" with respect to assault weapons. This is that definition:

(4) “Detachable magazine” means an ammunition feeding device that can be removed without disassembling the firearm action

See this link for the full AWB statute.
9/27/2014 2:07:45 PM EDT
[#2]
No

But we can has prebans
9/27/2014 2:38:59 PM EDT
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The Raddlock device, if I understand their installation/use correctly, would be a no go (as are bullet buttons) because your not disassembling the firearm action. There are two issues to get around when it comes to buying post 9/14/94 manufactured centerfire semiautomatic firearms like the AR-15 with fixed magazines here in CT. First is the ban by name language that bans "AR-15" and their copies/duplicates. The second is how the state defines a "detachable magazine" with respect to assault weapons. This is that definition:

(4) “Detachable magazine” means an ammunition feeding device that can be removed without disassembling the firearm action

See this link for the full AWB statute.
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There is another one, I can't find the video at the moment.. but it's definitely your answer.
You pull the rear takedown pin and as the action opens, it ejects the magazine automatically.  Anyone know what I am talking about?
It's similar to this video, only the magazine automatically ejects as the upper receiver is being lifted up:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIbqHO7F7n4
9/27/2014 3:10:11 PM EDT
[#4]
If it is then reclassed as a fixed mag, your still limited to 10 rounds.

Just buy a preban and not worry about any cheesy operation mods.
9/27/2014 3:22:28 PM EDT
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There is another one, I can't find the video at the moment.. but it's definitely your answer.
You pull the rear takedown pin and as the action opens, it ejects the magazine automatically.  Anyone know what I am talking about?
It's similar to this video, only the magazine automatically ejects as the upper receiver is being lifted up:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIbqHO7F7n4
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The Raddlock device, if I understand their installation/use correctly, would be a no go (as are bullet buttons) because your not disassembling the firearm action. There are two issues to get around when it comes to buying post 9/14/94 manufactured centerfire semiautomatic firearms like the AR-15 with fixed magazines here in CT. First is the ban by name language that bans "AR-15" and their copies/duplicates. The second is how the state defines a "detachable magazine" with respect to assault weapons. This is that definition:

(4) “Detachable magazine” means an ammunition feeding device that can be removed without disassembling the firearm action

See this link for the full AWB statute.

There is another one, I can't find the video at the moment.. but it's definitely your answer.
You pull the rear takedown pin and as the action opens, it ejects the magazine automatically.  Anyone know what I am talking about?
It's similar to this video, only the magazine automatically ejects as the upper receiver is being lifted up:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIbqHO7F7n4

The product in that video may get past our law as other devices like the AR MR2 which we've previously discussed here in the CTHTF. Again, the first problem anyone has when trying to create a fixed magazine centerfire AR-15 from a lower manufactured post 9/13/94 is this line from law (link in my previous post):

Any of the following specified semiautomatic centerfire rifles, or copies or duplicates thereof with the capability of any such rifles, that were in production prior to or on April 4, 2013:
...
(xx) AR-15


It doesn't matter if the magazine is fixed or not initially. Manufactured post 9/13/94 and is a semiautomatic centerfire "AR-15" rifle then its banned from being sold/transferred in this state to the peasants. Now once you get passed that banned by name language, like apparently the Ares SCR does, then one has to contend with the feature ban. It is at that point were a 10 round (or less) fixed magazine AR will get you around the feature bans provided the rifle is over 30 inches in overall length. But again the whole issue with the fixed magazine is the way the state defines "fixed magazine". If you have to disassemble the action of the firearm to remove the magazine then your good to go. Downside of course is your limited to a 10 round magazine. There may be some certain narrow exceptions to the AR banned by name language like SBR's.

Then there is some speculation that if you have a 20 or 30 round (or higher) magazine in your possession, that's been declared as a large capacity magazine and which can fit in an AR-15, that you have a "part" to create an assault weapon from that fixed magazine AR.

If one has the money simply buy a preban, which are those firearms manufactured prior to 9/13/94. You can have all the features you want on a preban.
9/27/2014 4:13:22 PM EDT
[#6]
Got it.  Well sh*t then.  Hopefully scouts will rule in favor of the AR being a commonly possessed weapon and protected by 2A.
9/27/2014 9:00:26 PM EDT
[#7]
Or just by a Noreen "Bad News" AR platform .338 Lapua. Horsepower out to 1700 yards.
9/28/2014 12:32:37 AM EDT
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Buy a stag 22 lower. Model: stag-22, that gets around the ar15 name. And run the fixed mag thing

Unless it's classified as a duplicate or something. I made a thread about that and I think you can't... Not sure, I forget, I've been to busy with my new house to remember these bullshit laws.  

Preban stripped lower. Done. Same money as a scr
9/28/2014 6:59:36 AM EDT
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Buy a stag 22 lower. Model: stag-22, that gets around the ar15 name. And run the fixed mag thing
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The problem comes when converting a rimfire AR-15 to a centerfire AR-15. Would such a conversion be legal or would you still run into the semiautomatic centerfire "AR-15" banned by name language. You'd think if such a conversion were legal then shops would be doing so (are they?) but I don't recall anyone reporting a shop selling such converted AR to us peasants.
9/28/2014 7:11:42 AM EDT
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Or just by a Noreen "Bad News" AR platform .338 Lapua. Horsepower out to 1700 yards.
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How would that rifle get past the banned by name AR-15? If it does get past that language it would still be banned (it appears) unless you went with a fixed magazine. At that point you just spent over $4,000 (or more) on a fixed magazine rifle. You could buy at least two (possibly more) preban AR's or Ares SCR's instead.