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1/20/2014 4:17:54 PM EDT
Are the Pre ban guns from 94 allowed in your state to be owned ?
1/20/2014 4:28:26 PM EDT
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Yes
1/20/2014 4:30:08 PM EDT
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1/20/2014 4:34:15 PM EDT
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Yes pre-ban prior to 1994 are good to go.
1/20/2014 5:13:02 PM EDT
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My buddy owns a gunshop and guys from your state have been asking if he has pre ban guns. He and Incouldnt understand why- until
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Is this the reason prices on Pre ban guns has jumped?
1/20/2014 8:18:13 PM EDT
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No. They haven't jumped.
1/21/2014 6:24:16 AM EDT
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I've recently purchased and imported a preban. The price was fair, and there really wasn't a premium associated with it. Having said that, I have seen a few carpet baggers selling at obscene prices... I also notice their rifles aren't selling too quickly.
1/21/2014 7:33:45 AM EDT
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Now that Colts are fair game, the pool of preban AR's has multimedia by a factor at least 10.

Colt production numbers from before 94 dwarf the combined production of all other prebans.

In the past, we only has a choice of the relatively small pool of preban eagle, EA, SGW/oly, Frankford, sendra, bushmaster, very few palmetto / DPMS , and the rare colt 6521.

This won't make them cheap, but the prices should remain steady because nobody can really corner the market on the shitload of colts out there.
1/21/2014 7:35:43 AM EDT
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whats the legality of pre ban ak's?
1/21/2014 7:41:54 AM EDT
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Mak90 and polytech Norincos are all preban and good to go my friend. 825-900 going price for good ones. Some D.B.'s are selling them for 1900 and locally the same. Armslist and GB and EE has them. There should a good amount out there.

Edit: there is so many prebans out there but there has to be proof not a letter but a stamped date like which is found on a Mak90 first two digits of the serial number and also Clinton banned import on Chinese AK's and the last shipment hit our shores on May 94 so they are all preban


Edit : fuck Dan Malloy
1/21/2014 7:43:50 AM EDT
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Theres a guy on GunBroker from Waterford trying to sell Colts for $5k.

He's got this long story on how only certain prebans are legal and ppl are buying illegal rifles and his are guaranteed......yada yada $5k
1/21/2014 7:46:59 AM EDT
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Another 20 Gs and you can buy that Colt M16 F/A that's on EE
1/21/2014 7:49:03 AM EDT
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any local that you guys know of?
1/21/2014 7:50:55 AM EDT
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Call JoJo's let then know you're interested in a preban AK . I know he had some in this past weekend. I would call to see what he has coming in.
1/21/2014 7:52:45 AM EDT
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Is that the 6521?
1/21/2014 12:14:01 PM EDT
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Did he steal it from Dominion/Millstone?
I heard they were missing some.
1/21/2014 12:22:05 PM EDT
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Delta had an ak47 in 556 last Friday.  Only 2800 bucks.



Glad I found a preban ak47 receiver to build off for a faction of the cost.
1/21/2014 12:42:29 PM EDT
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Delta Arsenal has an 84S that's on consignment and a MAK-90 that they own outright.
1/21/2014 3:02:12 PM EDT
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Real pre-ban AKs do command a price.

Mak-90s though? Unless they're still in cosmo u should be able to find for $900
1/21/2014 3:45:45 PM EDT
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Real pre-ban AKs do command a price.

Mak-90s though? Unless they're still in cosmo u should be able to find for $900
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Glad I found a preban ak47 receiver to build off for a faction of the cost.


Real pre-ban AKs do command a price.

Mak-90s though? Unless they're still in cosmo u should be able to find for $900

That one is an excellent 84s-5  side folder that is on consignment. A couple of years ago, they were selling for $1000 to $1500 in comparable condition.
1/21/2014 5:49:21 PM EDT
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Did he steal it from Dominion/Millstone?
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Theres a guy on GunBroker from Waterford trying to sell Colts for $5k.

He's got this long story on how only certain prebans are legal and ppl are buying illegal rifles and his are guaranteed......yada yada $5k


Did he steal it from Dominion/Millstone?
I heard they were missing some.



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They get some fun toys.
1/21/2014 5:51:52 PM EDT
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That one is an excellent 84s-5  side folder that is on consignment. A couple of years ago, they were selling for $1000 to $1500 in comparable condition.
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Delta had an ak47 in 556 last Friday.  Only 2800 bucks.



Glad I found a preban ak47 receiver to build off for a faction of the cost.


Real pre-ban AKs do command a price.

Mak-90s though? Unless they're still in cosmo u should be able to find for $900

That one is an excellent 84s-5  side folder that is on consignment. A couple of years ago, they were selling for $1000 to $1500 in comparable condition.



Yup.  Side folders are big money.  And it has nothing to do with the CT restrictions. Mthese are REAL AK's.   Some are too real.  Watch out for an extra rivet on some of them.
1/21/2014 7:19:01 PM EDT
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Yup.  Side folders are big money.  And it has nothing to do with the CT restrictions. Mthese are REAL AK's.   Some are too real.  Watch out for an extra rivet on some of them.
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Delta had an ak47 in 556 last Friday.  Only 2800 bucks.



Glad I found a preban ak47 receiver to build off for a faction of the cost.


Real pre-ban AKs do command a price.

Mak-90s though? Unless they're still in cosmo u should be able to find for $900

That one is an excellent 84s-5  side folder that is on consignment. A couple of years ago, they were selling for $1000 to $1500 in comparable condition.



Yup.  Side folders are big money.  And it has nothing to do with the CT restrictions. Mthese are REAL AK's.   Some are too real.  Watch out for an extra rivet on some of them.


You have to watch out for that on some MAK-90s (and certain other Chinese models) as well. More recently, that issue came up on a shipment of Saigas that were built on flats that were drilled for happy parts. In most countries outside of the US, the plugged hole and semi fire control group are sufficient. Here, you might as well have went all the way.
1/21/2014 7:23:01 PM EDT
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I have a norinco 84s
It's been converted to a krinkov
1/22/2014 4:09:43 AM EDT
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I've recently purchased and imported a preban. The price was fair, and there really wasn't a premium associated with it. Having said that, I have seen a few carpet baggers selling at obscene prices... I also notice their rifles aren't selling too quickly.
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Define obscene?




I've sold off almost half my collection, 12+ prebans, including another one up right now, and I've always sought to sell them under what they are priced at locally.
1/22/2014 12:40:53 PM EDT
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maybe an example would be a preban colt >$2.5K +?
1/22/2014 2:27:26 PM EDT
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Anyone know of a pre ban ak receiver for sale?
1/22/2014 2:35:16 PM EDT
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Dude, just buy a MAK-90.

Seriously.

AK building is a different sport than AR building.
1/22/2014 2:56:43 PM EDT
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I really don't like how beat to shit some of these guns are. I can use a lot of new stuff with a receiver
1/22/2014 3:01:02 PM EDT
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Get a brand new Saiga and use a factory thumbhole stock or aftermarket pistol grip stock. They make ones that you don't need to move the trigger group forward to attach.

Pistol grip-like feature stays entirely behind the action.
1/22/2014 4:09:34 PM EDT
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I've sold off almost half my collection, 12+ prebans, including another one up right now, and I've always sought to sell them under what they are priced at locally.





maybe an example would be a preban colt >$2.5K +?




 
I sold tricked out BOHICA with piston/rails/EOtech for $3k last January and I still feel dirty.  
1/22/2014 4:18:29 PM EDT
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Get a brand new Saiga and use a factory thumbhole stock or aftermarket pistol grip stock. They make ones that you don't need to move the trigger group forward to attach.

Pistol grip-like feature stays entirely behind the action.
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Get a brand new Saiga and use a factory thumbhole stock or aftermarket pistol grip stock. They make ones that you don't need to move the trigger group forward to attach.

Pistol grip-like feature stays entirely behind the action.

I've seen those , cool but kind of ugly. They just don't look right
1/22/2014 11:58:42 PM EDT
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If is helps, I found an affordable MAK90 at a Rhode Island Guns store last week.
1/23/2014 3:15:35 AM EDT
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If you want a pre-ban, grab it quick!  We all know that if the RINO McKinney gets his suggested extension of registration deadline, that he and his cronies will use this as an opportunity to "fix" things like this!
1/23/2014 3:41:08 AM EDT
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They will allow the pre bans to flow. If they put on outright ban on a particular firearm that is deemed legal just about everywhere else,  they would have no chance of it holding in court. They left this little door open for a reason
1/23/2014 9:14:03 AM EDT
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I see prebans on gbroker but do  I need a letter or some proof to verify that its a pre 94?
1/23/2014 9:42:08 AM EDT
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1/23/2014 10:09:26 AM EDT
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an FFL might want a letter to perform the xfer.    there is no law requirement for proof.
1/23/2014 10:39:09 AM EDT
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the answer is no.

an FFL might want a letter to perform the xfer.    there is no law requirement for proof.
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the answer is no.

an FFL might want a letter to perform the xfer.    there is no law requirement for proof.

Apparently its SLFU who is claiming that the buyer needs to show proof of manufacture date for prebans. And yes that opinion/rule has no basis in law just as their reinterpretation on banned by name prebans may not have a basis in law since they ignore a portion of the law to come to their new opinion on prebans. But they are apparently requiring FFL's to ask for the letter anyway.
1/23/2014 11:11:19 AM EDT
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Anybody know which Daewoo's are preban?

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1/23/2014 11:26:53 AM EDT
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1/23/2014 11:28:24 AM EDT
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going to vermont next week :)
1/23/2014 11:58:56 AM EDT
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High capacity syrup in VT!
1/23/2014 12:43:34 PM EDT
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Going snowmobiling for a week. Wanted to swing by some stores anyways, but maybe I'll be in contact with that guy
1/23/2014 12:47:20 PM EDT
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would you share which ones?

or would you like me to give you a rectal exam to retrieve such info?
1/23/2014 12:57:16 PM EDT
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would you share which ones?

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The ones made before 1994 duh
1/23/2014 1:06:31 PM EDT
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If you buy that polytech ... I better get some trigger time
1/23/2014 1:31:19 PM EDT
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The ones made before 1994 duh
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The ones made before 1994 duh

ass
1/23/2014 2:47:55 PM EDT
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Come Down to the club
1/23/2014 4:15:20 PM EDT
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Did he steal it from Dominion/Millstone?
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Theres a guy on GunBroker from Waterford trying to sell Colts for $5k.

He's got this long story on how only certain prebans are legal and ppl are buying illegal rifles and his are guaranteed......yada yada $5k


Did he steal it from Dominion/Millstone?
I heard they were missing some.


Millstone was/is missing a reflex scope.... no firearms missing.
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