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12/21/2013 10:35:04 AM EDT
Just passed through my local shop. I hate te place but it's close . He has a bunch of stag .22 model 1,2 and 3s. I haven't seen any of these yet but the cost was alarming . He wanted 1000$ for them. Are people still trying to price gouge or is it just me?
12/21/2013 10:59:24 AM EDT
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I talked to Stag about a month ago regarding their .22 rifles.  Stag told me they are not on their website; they are only available through local gun stores.  Further, they told me they cost about $100 more than the model they look like (there is more involved in making the .22 rifles so they can be undone to a standard rifle by a gunsmith upon moving the rifle to a free state).  So.....  $1,000 sounds in line with what Stag told me.

If you're stuck here in CT don't bitch.  These rifles are an option for now.  Spend the extra few dollars.  Back in 1993 (or 94) after the original ban happened I regretted I had not bought an AR.


12/21/2013 11:11:31 AM EDT
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I think they are about $800 or so elsewhere.

Are you going to that place in montville area?
12/21/2013 11:20:48 AM EDT
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Yes the outpost. Really dislike them for their super high prices during the panic. They wanted 1995$ for a base stag #1 ! I almost puked when I saw that. The best part was the morning studdering Dan sighned the law into effect, those guns were still on their rack.

I do go In there to see if they have anything new from time to time . This time it was the stag .22s
12/21/2013 11:46:41 AM EDT
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Does that pricing follow what Stag told me a month or two ago, or has it changed?  (They told me the .22 versions are about $100 more)
12/21/2013 12:35:16 PM EDT
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Since Stag did not change the lower receiver except for the caliber marked 22LR, can you purchase a stripped receiver marked 22LR and build you own? It would be far cheaper to build a conventional lower with a CMMG dedicated upper. Instead of a modified AR 15 rifle with a 1/9 barrel, the CMMG upper would have the better 1/16 barrel for the 22LR. Am I on the right track or is my thinking flawed?

Mike
12/21/2013 1:20:50 PM EDT
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If that's the case I will build one from scratch
12/21/2013 4:03:40 PM EDT
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Since Stag did not change the lower receiver except for the caliber marked 22LR, can you purchased a stripped receiver marked 22LR and build you own? It would be far cheaper to build a conventional lower with a CMMG dedicated upper. Instead of a modified AR 15 rifle with a 1/9 barrel, the CMMG upper would have the better 1/16 barrel for the 22LR. Am I on the right track or is my thinking flawed?

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I think all that is missing is a gas tube

it's pretty much a you know what.
12/21/2013 5:38:26 PM EDT
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I have seen the Stag 22's. Just a small modification from the regular rifles. Yes, it gets around the current laws for now, but the configuration is not ideal for the 22LR. I wouldn't mind buying just a Stag 22 receiver and building my own. Can you buy just a Stag receiver? I have seen only one company (Tactical Machining)  offer stripped receivers with the 22LR markings. I haven't  looked that hard and I need to research it a little more.

Mike
12/22/2013 9:50:30 AM EDT
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the stag 22 is a dedicated 22 rifle. The state required us to roll mark the lower to say Stag-22 instead of Stag-15. The buffer tube is filled in so no one can EASILY drop in a standard BCG. But other than the conversion carrier, buffer, and the roll mark on the lower it's all the same as the standard AR you used to buy. Now it's just CT compliant. Of course since Malloy updated the to rimfire rifle law, it can now only have a pistol grip and a detachable 10 rd mag. Comes with a stag comp and fixed faux adjustable stock. Like the way we used to buy real AR's before April 4th.

The best thing about Stag 22 rifles is that if you move out of state or the law gets changed or scrapped you can have a qualified gunsmith change the rifle to a standard AR platform to shoot 5.56/ .223 again. That is something that is not easy to do or possible on other 22 AR platforms without major gunsmithing work

Again we worked with state police and lawyers to get the okay for these rifles. It's legal and so far they are selling. Hit up a Stag dealer or order one directly from us online or by phone. Hopefully we will come up with an approved centerfire rifle to be CT compliant like NYS compliant rifles. We are working on a compliant page on our website that will have all the new and old compliant options and related pictures. Also the pics should be in the catalog for 2014.

As far as a Stag 22 AR lower half, We have sold a few to local gun shops. We are going to make an official announcement in the coming weeks about whether or not we will be selling the 22lr lowers. Stay tuned.
12/22/2013 1:25:40 PM EDT
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the stag 22 is a dedicated 22 rifle. The state required us to roll mark the lower to say Stag-22 instead of Stag-15. The buffer tube is filled in so no one can EASILY drop in a standard BCG. But other than the conversion carrier, buffer, and the roll mark on the lower it's all the same as the standard AR you used to buy. Now it's just CT compliant. Of course since Malloy updated the to rimfire rifle law, it can now only have a pistol grip and a detachable 10 rd mag. Comes with a stag comp and fixed faux adjustable stock. Like the way we used to buy real AR's before April 4th.

The best thing about Stag 22 rifles is that if you move out of state or the law gets changed or scrapped you can have a qualified gunsmith change the rifle to a standard AR platform to shoot 5.56/ .223 again. That is something that is not easy to do or possible on other 22 AR platforms without major gunsmithing work

Again we worked with state police and lawyers to get the okay for these rifles. It's legal and so far they are selling. Hit up a Stag dealer or order one directly from us online or by phone. Hopefully we will come up with an approved centerfire rifle to be CT compliant like NYS compliant rifles. We are working on a compliant page on our website that will have all the new and old compliant options and related pictures. Also the pics should be in the catalog for 2014.

As far as a Stag 22 AR lower, yes. We have sold a few to local gun shops. We won't sell them stripped
But we will sell them as a complete lower half. This way it will have the blocked buffer tube still in it
So we can stay compliant with the state laws as well, Also so no one buys the lower just to use it on a standard upper.
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any way of finding out a price on the complete lower set up?
12/22/2013 1:52:39 PM EDT
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the stag 22 is a dedicated 22 rifle. The state required us to roll mark the lower to say Stag-22 instead of Stag-15. The buffer tube is filled in so no one can EASILY drop in a standard BCG. But other than the conversion carrier, buffer, and the roll mark on the lower it's all the same as the standard AR you used to buy. Now it's just CT compliant. Of course since Malloy updated the to rimfire rifle law, it can now only have a pistol grip and a detachable 10 rd mag. Comes with a stag comp and fixed faux adjustable stock. Like the way we used to buy real AR's before April 4th.

The best thing about Stag 22 rifles is that if you move out of state or the law gets changed or scrapped you can have a qualified gunsmith change the rifle to a standard AR platform to shoot 5.56/ .223 again. That is something that is not easy to do or possible on other 22 AR platforms without major gunsmithing work

Again we worked with state police and lawyers to get the okay for these rifles. It's legal and so far they are selling. Hit up a Stag dealer or order one directly from us online or by phone. Hopefully we will come up with an approved centerfire rifle to be CT compliant like NYS compliant rifles. We are working on a compliant page on our website that will have all the new and old compliant options and related pictures. Also the pics should be in the catalog for 2014.

As far as a Stag 22 AR lower, yes. We have sold a few to local gun shops. We won't sell them stripped
But we will sell them as a complete lower half. This way it will have the blocked buffer tube still in it
So we can stay compliant with the state laws as well, Also so no one buys the lower just to use it on a standard upper............
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I see what he did there

Can you make a Stag 22, but that has a magwell that will fit 308 mags too.....I mean I'd only use it for .22, but I'd like it to have that look
12/22/2013 4:31:14 PM EDT
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I see what he did there

Can you make a Stag 22, but that has a magwell that will fit 308 mags too.....I mean I'd only use it for .22, but I'd like it to have that look
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the stag 22 is a dedicated 22 rifle. The state required us to roll mark the lower to say Stag-22 instead of Stag-15. The buffer tube is filled in so no one can EASILY drop in a standard BCG. But other than the conversion carrier, buffer, and the roll mark on the lower it's all the same as the standard AR you used to buy. Now it's just CT compliant. Of course since Malloy updated the to rimfire rifle law, it can now only have a pistol grip and a detachable 10 rd mag. Comes with a stag comp and fixed faux adjustable stock. Like the way we used to buy real AR's before April 4th.

The best thing about Stag 22 rifles is that if you move out of state or the law gets changed or scrapped you can have a qualified gunsmith change the rifle to a standard AR platform to shoot 5.56/ .223 again. That is something that is not easy to do or possible on other 22 AR platforms without major gunsmithing work

Again we worked with state police and lawyers to get the okay for these rifles. It's legal and so far they are selling. Hit up a Stag dealer or order one directly from us online or by phone. Hopefully we will come up with an approved centerfire rifle to be CT compliant like NYS compliant rifles. We are working on a compliant page on our website that will have all the new and old compliant options and related pictures. Also the pics should be in the catalog for 2014.

As far as a Stag 22 AR lower, yes. We have sold a few to local gun shops. We won't sell them stripped
But we will sell them as a complete lower half. This way it will have the blocked buffer tube still in it
So we can stay compliant with the state laws as well, Also so no one buys the lower just to use it on a standard upper............


I see what he did there

Can you make a Stag 22, but that has a magwell that will fit 308 mags too.....I mean I'd only use it for .22, but I'd like it to have that look



I like the way you think.
12/22/2013 4:58:19 PM EDT
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12/22/2013 5:18:11 PM EDT
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the stag 22 is a dedicated 22 rifle. The state required us to roll mark the lower to say Stag-22 instead of Stag-15. The buffer tube is filled in so no one can EASILY drop in a standard BCG. But other than the conversion carrier, buffer, and the roll mark on the lower it's all the same as the standard AR you used to buy. Now it's just CT compliant. Of course since Malloy updated the to rimfire rifle law, it can now only have a pistol grip and a detachable 10 rd mag. Comes with a stag comp and fixed faux adjustable stock. Like the way we used to buy real AR's before April 4th.

The best thing about Stag 22 rifles is that if you move out of state or the law gets changed or scrapped you can have a qualified gunsmith change the rifle to a standard AR platform to shoot 5.56/ .223 again. That is something that is not easy to do or possible on other 22 AR platforms without major gunsmithing work

Again we worked with state police and lawyers to get the okay for these rifles. It's legal and so far they are selling. Hit up a Stag dealer or order one directly from us online or by phone. Hopefully we will come up with an approved centerfire rifle to be CT compliant like NYS compliant rifles. We are working on a compliant page on our website that will have all the new and old compliant options and related pictures. Also the pics should be in the catalog for 2014.

As far as a Stag 22 AR lower, yes. We have sold a few to local gun shops. We won't sell them stripped
But we will sell them as a complete lower half. This way it will have the blocked buffer tube still in it
So we can stay compliant with the state laws as well, Also so no one buys the lower just to use it on a standard upper............


I see what he did there

Can you make a Stag 22, but that has a magwell that will fit 308 mags too.....I mean I'd only use it for .22, but I'd like it to have that look



I like the way you think.



I'd be down for a AR10 22 trainer !!!!!!!
12/26/2013 5:43:41 AM EDT
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If there is interest in the Stag-22 complete lowers, send me an IM, I have a couple....
12/26/2013 5:50:52 AM EDT
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I have seen the Stag 22's. Just a small modification from the regular rifles. Yes, it gets around the current laws for now, but the configuration is not ideal for the 22LR. I wouldn't mind buying just a Stag 22 receiver and building my own. Can you buy just a Stag receiver? I have seen only one company (Tactical Machining)  offer stripped receivers with the 22LR markings. I haven't  looked that hard and I need to research it a little more.

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talked to stag the other day. they said as of now they arnt and dont plan on selling just the .22 lowers
12/26/2013 6:15:20 AM EDT
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IM  sent, wanted one for a while
12/26/2013 3:47:21 PM EDT
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Mine are all spoken for guys.  Thanks
12/26/2013 4:05:49 PM EDT
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12/31/2013 1:50:17 PM EDT
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I know the rumor was Stag wasn't selling the .22 lower stripped but I came across a couple today at a LGS. Just a heads up for those interested.

12/31/2013 1:51:40 PM EDT
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How much were they?
12/31/2013 1:57:05 PM EDT
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If any of you with one are in the Hartford area, I would love to arrange the opportunity to examine a complete Stag, or a complete Stag lower.
12/31/2013 5:57:36 PM EDT
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They were $125. The only difference between this and there reg. it's stamped .22lr.

12/31/2013 6:48:41 PM EDT
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Where they at? I'd like to buy one.
12/31/2013 6:55:32 PM EDT
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LOL fuck you Malloy.  Mark wins
12/31/2013 6:56:08 PM EDT
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The case and the tags give it away
12/31/2013 9:32:15 PM EDT
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12/31/2013 10:18:14 PM EDT
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They were $125. The only difference between this and there reg. it's stamped .22lr.

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o711/Sbone69/32D80ABC-0C5F-4E00-8B44-65862582CF1C-132-000000012117E5A3_zps1ec3f21b.jpg
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LOL, seen one being sold on another CT forum for 475 bucks firm
1/1/2014 12:37:34 AM EDT
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The case and the tags give it away


Roger! Didn't want to blast there name all over the net but I figured some people would know. Anyone who wants to know IM or email and ill give you the details.
1/1/2014 12:41:07 AM EDT
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They were $125. The only difference between this and there reg. it's stamped .22lr.

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o711/Sbone69/32D80ABC-0C5F-4E00-8B44-65862582CF1C-132-000000012117E5A3_zps1ec3f21b.jpg


LOL, seen one being sold on another CT forum for 475 bucks firm


Yea, at that price just buy a Preban.
1/1/2014 6:41:23 AM EDT
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I would suggest you guys who want something call us directly and ask to buy a stag 22lr tactical lower half. This way you can get another lower to use on a 22lr upper. If the law is repealed, changed, or you move you can have a gunsmith or armored change out some parts and you can drop a 5.56 upper on and your good to go. I really don't think there are any other companies out there doing this. We are doing this help help our fellow CT gun owners who have supported us through the years. If you have any questions call us. Thank you
1/1/2014 8:53:18 AM EDT
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As a .22 only shooter, it's a challenge to be price competitive with the Smith & Wesson offering, but I realize this is a completely different animal.

Awesome that you guys are doing this and giving us more choices here in CT.  I think it would be great if you made available lowers (partially stripped or complete)  with a solid buffer tube onto which the end user could install one of those fixed Magpul Moe stocks.

Just my two cents.  Thanks for continuing to make stuff we can still use in CT given all the hoops you have to jump through.
1/1/2014 2:02:50 PM EDT
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hows the law work if i picked one of these up and wanted to shoot 17hmr? its still rimfire..but can i do so even though the lower says 22? im guessing it falls in the same rule with the 556/223, since its not registered as a SBR or anything, you dont need to call to confirm a caliber change. correct?
1/1/2014 2:46:14 PM EDT
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If you have a 17hmr upper you are legally able to put it on the stag lower because your upper is chambered as a rimfire and the law lets you have a rimfire semi auto
With two evil features and a 10 rd mag
1/1/2014 2:49:00 PM EDT
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Also guys just to let you know that another difference between our AR-22 versus a competitor is that we are only offering this to CT residents and NO ONE else.
1/1/2014 3:04:49 PM EDT
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So the 22 caliber on the lower means nothing, just something to write down in the "books"? Kind of new to ar's but I did help my father build his lowers. So I kind of know what I'm talking about but not well experienced.  Now, let's say we put a bullet button on an ar, it no longer has a removable magazine because you need a device to remove it. Correct? Sorry to hi jack this thread.
1/1/2014 3:18:33 PM EDT
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It is still removable regardless of the device
1/1/2014 3:20:25 PM EDT
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Hahahahaha love it!
1/1/2014 3:25:07 PM EDT
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Yea, at that price just buy a Preban.
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They were $125. The only difference between this and there reg. it's stamped .22lr.

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o711/Sbone69/32D80ABC-0C5F-4E00-8B44-65862582CF1C-132-000000012117E5A3_zps1ec3f21b.jpg


LOL, seen one being sold on another CT forum for 475 bucks firm


Yea, at that price just buy a Preban.


Prebans are going to be about twice that price unless you luck out with an out of state sale that one of the dealers didn't beat you to.
1/1/2014 3:26:40 PM EDT
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Nuke I sent you a message.
1/1/2014 3:29:12 PM EDT
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As a .22 only shooter, it's a challenge to be price competitive with the Smith & Wesson offering, but I realize this is a completely different animal.

Awesome that you guys are doing this and giving us more choices here in CT.  I think it would be great if you made available lowers (partially stripped or complete)  with a solid buffer tube onto which the end user could install one of those fixed Magpul Moe stocks.

Just my two cents.  Thanks for continuing to make stuff we can still use in CT given all the hoops you have to jump through.
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I think that the specialness of this has more to do with it's SHTF potential than what it is intended to shoot.  I look at this the same way I look at an open bolt Mac 10.  For what it could very easily be, rather than what it is marked as.

1/1/2014 3:41:31 PM EDT
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I'm going to use my flintlock with the SHTF.
1/2/2014 6:01:12 AM EDT
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I just called Stag, the guy I talked to said you can't buy just the lower, from them or an FFL. He said you have to buy the entire rifle
1/2/2014 7:09:20 AM EDT
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I hope these are around for a while. I have the itch but not the scratch.
1/2/2014 7:18:23 AM EDT
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They told me the same thing
1/2/2014 7:43:23 AM EDT
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They told me the same thing
Anyone with a stripped or complete lower contact me.



 
1/2/2014 7:44:44 AM EDT
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I just called Stag, the guy I talked to said you can't buy just the lower, from them or an FFL. He said you have to buy the entire rifle

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Anyone with a stripped or complete lower contact me.
 


And the next person with one please contact me
1/2/2014 8:11:51 AM EDT
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I would think if the Stag22 is slipping by a person could build an 80% 22lr in the same fashion by pinning and plugging a buffer tube.
1/2/2014 8:19:44 AM EDT
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correct. i would go this route before spending a ton on a finished lower
1/2/2014 10:05:17 AM EDT
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correct. i would go this route before spending a ton on a finished lower


I don't know about that.

Stag was nice enough to defer a level of liability to themselves, all for the price of whatever they're charging.

I'd rather pay the price knowing it was approved then get screwed in the bum-hole by the law.
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